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Post by bluehen on Jan 8, 2017 15:16:34 GMT
" The great thing about tournament play is it's not up to a vote or anything like that. You go out there and play it out on the field "
the fundamental difference between real and mythical
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Post by Bevo on Jan 8, 2017 16:20:51 GMT
The great thing about the FBS level of college football is.... You don't have to wait for some end of the year dance to "play it on the field". The regular season IS "the dance", and everyone is invited. The CFP is just the semi-final and Final of a season long competition. There's nothing else like it.
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Post by bluehen on Jan 8, 2017 17:03:33 GMT
The great thing about the FBS level of college football is.... You don't have to wait for some end of the year dance to "play it on the field". The regular season IS "the dance", and everyone is invited. The CFP is just the semi-final and Final of a season long competition. There's nothing else like it. I think the sacredness and meaningfulness of the FBS regular season is the biggest myth in sports, Bevo Now, I would be willing to change my mind about that if you or anybody else could explain the sacred meaningfulness of : * WMU's 13-0 regular season * Some teams playing 7-8 home games, some teams playing 5 * TCU's 13-0 regular season (2010) * Boise State's 13-0 regular season (2009) * The most powerful and rich conference feeling the need to play 25% of its OOC games in a lower NCAA division * Utah's 13-0 regular season (2008) * A conference champion relegated to a PSEG while a divisional runner up (from the same league) gets voted into a national semi-final * Boise State's 12-0 regular season (2006) * Clemson vs Wofford * Alabama vs Chattanooga * Auburn's 13-0 regular season ( 2004) * Marshall's 12-0 regular season ( 1999) *Clemson vs S.C. State * Alabams vs Western Carolina * Some teams playing every OOC game within its home state. * Alabama vs Georgia State * Polls * Pre-season polls ......and tons more of the same I believe you can't have meaningful regular season without a meaningful post season
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 8, 2017 17:34:40 GMT
The great thing about the FBS level of college football is.... You don't have to wait for some end of the year dance to "play it on the field". The regular season IS "the dance", and everyone is invited. The CFP is just the semi-final and Final of a season long competition. There's nothing else like it. Thank God there is nothing else like it. All NCAA sports in all divisions, with the singular exception of FBS football, have regular seasons followed by an inclusive playoff that determines a real NCAA national champion. No controversy.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 8, 2017 18:43:30 GMT
The great thing about the FBS level of college football is.... You don't have to wait for some end of the year dance to "play it on the field". The regular season IS "the dance", and everyone is invited. The CFP is just the semi-final and Final of a season long competition. There's nothing else like it. I think the sacredness and meaningfulness of the FBS regular season is the biggest myth in sports, Bevo Far from it, Hen. It is reality. NO TEAM, can afford to lose ANY game in the regular season if they want to be "assured" of having a chance to play for the title. EVERY game counts. For some teams, like those you listed... there is not much they can do, other than win the games they have, and HOPE for a bunch of losses among others. They are in this position because, their "dance routine doesn't include enough difficult, or challenging moves". It's a competition. If you want to stand out, you have to play a tough schedule.. one way, or another. One way is: Play in a TOUGH conference (Hint, the MAC is NOT one)... The other way is: Schedule the BEST competition in OOC. (Houston did this... but, couldn't beat them). Regardless, the path is there.. for all. I know EXACTLY what Texas needed to do to get to the CFP. They couldn't do it. Most schools know what they needed to do... only 4 teams were able to actually do it.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 8, 2017 18:45:49 GMT
All NCAA sports in all divisions, with the singular exception of FBS football, have regular seasons followed by an inclusive playoff that determines a real NCAA national champion. Yes! The MOST important thing in life is: For EVERYTHING to be EXACTLY the same. ZERO diversity. For sure, you're right. Just wondering: Do you eat the SAME thing every day, for every meal? I'm guessing, yes.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 8, 2017 19:31:25 GMT
All NCAA sports in all divisions, with the singular exception of FBS football, have regular seasons followed by an inclusive playoff that determines a real NCAA national champion. Yes! The MOST important thing in life is: For EVERYTHING to be EXACTLY the same. ZERO diversity. For sure, you're right. Just wondering: Do you eat the SAME thing every day, for every meal? I'm guessing, yes. Diversity and legitimacy are very different animals. FBS has never produced a legitimate national champion. All other NCAA sports in all divisions produce an undisputed legitimate NCAA national champion ever year.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 8, 2017 20:14:20 GMT
FBS has never produced a legitimate national champion. 2005 TEXAS was as legitimate a "Champion" as ANY I have EVER seen, in ANY sport. All other NCAA sports in all divisions produce an undisputed legitimate NCAA national champion ever year. Some people just can't handle "controversy"... but, it's not always a bad thing. Especially, when it comes to marketing.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 8, 2017 20:22:29 GMT
So, Hen? Where will Mike Houston be heading?
Surely, he's now in demand from schools who can pay MUCH more?
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 8, 2017 20:39:16 GMT
FBS has never produced a legitimate national champion. 2005 TEXAS was as legitimate a "Champion" as ANY I have EVER seen, in ANY sport. All other NCAA sports in all divisions produce an undisputed legitimate NCAA national champion ever year. Some people just can't handle "controversy"... but, it's not always a bad thing. Especially, when it comes to marketing. Controversy exists only because legitimacy doesn't exist.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 8, 2017 21:47:24 GMT
2005 TEXAS was as legitimate a "Champion" as ANY I have EVER seen, in ANY sport. Some people just can't handle "controversy"... but, it's not always a bad thing. Especially, when it comes to marketing. Controversy exists only because legitimacy doesn't exist. Whatever... consensus exists. That's good enough for me on football... not for global climate change.
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 8, 2017 23:17:16 GMT
Depends on what you mean by legitimate.
The FBS national champion played and earned the national championship under the given rules in existence at the time.
Therefore, the winner is proclaimed and recognized as a national champion.
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Post by bluehen on Jan 8, 2017 23:20:00 GMT
The great thing about the FBS level of college football is.... You don't have to wait for some end of the year dance to "play it on the field". The regular season IS "the dance", and everyone is invited. The CFP is just the semi-final and Final of a season long competition. There's nothing else like it. Thank God there is nothing else like it. All NCAA sports in all divisions, with the singular exception of FBS football, have regular seasons followed by an inclusive playoff that determines a real NCAA national champion. No controversy. But the rest of all the team sports in the entire world at every level, including NCAA championship football divisions are dead WRONG and the Cartel is absolutely RIGHT. VOTING IS BETTER THAN PLAYING.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 8, 2017 23:30:49 GMT
Thank God there is nothing else like it. All NCAA sports in all divisions, with the singular exception of FBS football, have regular seasons followed by an inclusive playoff that determines a real NCAA national champion. No controversy. But the rest of all the team sports in the entire world at every level, including NCAA championship football divisions are dead WRONG and the Cartel is absolutely RIGHT. VOTING IS BETTER THAN PLAYING. No Hen... EVERYONE comes up with the system that works best... FOR THEM! The problem is, some people just can't deal with the differences.
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Post by bluehen on Jan 8, 2017 23:33:29 GMT
Bevo, you're in fantasy land if you think so called G5 teams can just call up so called P5 programs and schedule any games they want...and that "Every Game Counts"..only select games count in the self serving mythical system of the Cartel....and you must truly believe that any team can just switch conference membership to any one of the, so called, P5 leagues anytime they want by just making a phone call. Hero posted the SEC phone #. Just call up that number and announce you're joining the league and bingo, instant SOS improvement, right ? Nothing to It. I don't understand why all the , so called, G5s don't do that immediately. As long as the post season , so called, playoff is EXclusive the regular season can't be 'meaningful'.
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