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Post by rupturedduck on Oct 29, 2017 11:11:41 GMT
Cyclones are 6-2.lost to Iowa in OT 44-41.toTexas 17-7.beat undefeated Oklahoma and now unbeaten TCU.got a secomd year coach Campbell from Toledo  |
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Post by Hero on Oct 29, 2017 11:29:17 GMT
Yes, they are in charge of the BIG12.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Oct 29, 2017 11:31:30 GMT
Time will tell, but it is entirely possible that TCU wasn’t all that.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Oct 29, 2017 11:56:19 GMT
The actual biggest surprise team is UCF, which received a total of 0 votes in the preseason AP and Coaches polls combined.
UCF was 0-12 in 2015 and 6-7 in 2016. Now, they are one of the five remaining undefeated FBS teams.
UCF has dominating wins over Maryland, Memphis and Navy. Maryland, as you might recall, rang up 51 points in its win over Texas;, while UCF held Maryland to 7 points. Memphis leads the AAC West, and defeated UCLA, Navy and Houston. Navy was nationally ranked after winning its first 5.
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Post by Hero on Oct 29, 2017 12:05:19 GMT
The actual biggest surprise team is UCF, which received a total of 0 votes in the preseason AP and Coaches polls combined. UCF was 0-12 in 2015 and 6-7 in 2016. Now, they are one of the five remaining undefeated FBS teams. UCF has dominating wins over Maryland, Memphis and Navy. Maryland, as you might recall, rang up 51 points in its win over Texas;, while UCF held Maryland to 7 points. Memphis leads the AAC West, and defeated UCLA, Navy and Houston. Navy was nationally ranked after winning its first 5. No, duck is right. |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Oct 29, 2017 12:35:36 GMT
I have learned from you, tigercpa and Bevo how to read minds, and duck believes that I am right. He might not admit it, though.
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Post by Hero on Oct 29, 2017 12:49:46 GMT
I have learned from you, tigercpa and Bevo how to read minds, and duck believes that I am right. He might not admit it, though. I can see the future too. I see UCF in a coaching search. |
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Post by rupturedduck on Oct 29, 2017 13:28:38 GMT
Is that Scott Frost ex Nebraska QB their coach,think it is,what a job he has done and see some bigger school grab him up very soon ? Duck does agree with you,you da man.  |
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Post by Hero on Oct 29, 2017 13:38:15 GMT
Is that Scott Frost ex Nebraska QB their coach,think it is,what a job he has done and see some bigger school grab him up very soon ? Duck does agree with you,you da man. Yes, that is the same Scott Frost. |
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Post by bluehen on Oct 29, 2017 13:56:03 GMT
ISU head coach Matt Campbell played under the greatest of all college football coaches - Larry Kehres, and won 3 national championships ( non voted-earned) during his playing career at Mt Union. Winning is ingrained for this guy.
UCF, under coach Frost is highly regarded anywhere between #2 and #5 in many assorted systems found in the Massey composite. UCF can flat out PLAY and if given an opportunity in a more fair, inclusive championship system would surely be a difficult out...unfortunately wrong conference patch and label (G5) so zero opportunities.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Oct 29, 2017 17:11:43 GMT
ISU head coach Matt Campbell played under the greatest of all college football coaches - Larry Kehres, and won 3 national championships ( non voted-earned) during his playing career at Mt Union. Winning is ingrained for this guy. UCF, under coach Frost is highly regarded anywhere between #2 and #5 in many assorted systems found in the Massey composite. UCF can flat out PLAY and if given an opportunity in a more fair, inclusive championship system would surely be a difficult out...unfortunately wrong conference patch and label (G5) so zero opportunities. The irony is that Scott Frost might have been the second-best young coaching prospect on the field. It looks like Austin Peay head coach Will Healy is destined to be a superstar P5 head coach - in the not too distant future. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Healy |
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Post by doc on Oct 29, 2017 17:42:58 GMT
The actual biggest surprise team is UCF, which received a total of 0 votes in the preseason AP and Coaches polls combined. UCF was 0-12 in 2015 and 6-7 in 2016. Now, they are one of the five remaining undefeated FBS teams. UCF has dominating wins over Maryland, Memphis and Navy. Maryland, as you might recall, rang up 51 points in its win over Texas;, while UCF held Maryland to 7 points. Memphis leads the AAC West, and defeated UCLA, Navy and Houston. Navy was nationally ranked after winning its first 5. Maryland is a poor barometer. Ohio State beat them so bad most of the starters sat out the second half. They did score on a kickoff but OSU has the worst kickoff coverage in the country. |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Oct 29, 2017 22:01:57 GMT
Maryland wasn’t a slouch when it scored 51 points in its win over Texas.
Big Ten undefeateds Ohio State and Wisconsin are in the top-4 in each of the major polls. Each trounced Maryland, 62-14 and 38-13 respectively. But, undefeated UCF also trounced Maryland, 38-10.
The question I posed, that no one has yet answered, is: “where would UCF stand in the AP and Coaches polls today if, rather than Florida State, it had been ranked #3 in each of the preseason polls?
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Post by Bevo on Oct 29, 2017 22:24:06 GMT
Maryland wasn’t a slouch when it scored 51 points in its win over Texas. Probably, they were. Texas is NOT a good team. Our defense has improved, but... in that first game, we were totally lost. Plus, what injuries has NC State had since that game? The question I posed, that no one has yet answered, is: “where would UCF stand in the AP and Coaches polls today if, rather than Florida State, it had been ranked #3 in each of the preseason polls? No one has answered because it's a stupid question. You correctly pointed out that there was NO REASON to rank UCF at #3 before the season started. Where teams START isn't what matters... it's where they FINISH. |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Oct 29, 2017 22:59:43 GMT
Maryland wasn’t a slouch when it scored 51 points in its win over Texas. Probably, they were. Texas is NOT a good team. Our defense has improved, but... in that first game, we were totally lost. Plus, what injuries has NC State had since that game? The question I posed, that no one has yet answered, is: “where would UCF stand in the AP and Coaches polls today if, rather than Florida State, it had been ranked #3 in each of the preseason polls? No one has answered because it's a stupid question. You correctly pointed out that there was NO REASON to rank UCF at #3 before the season started. Where teams START isn't what matters... it's where they FINISH. Nonsense. Texas could very easily be 7-1, even 8-0. Its losses to Oklahoma, USC and Oklahoma State were by a combined total of 11 points. Maryland deserves credit for its 10-point win over Texas. It is the only game that Texas didn’t have an opportunity to win in the final minute. You are dead wrong. It does matter greatly where a team starts. UCF has had a long slow uphill climb from 0 votes. If the Knights had been ranked #3 preseason, that is where they would be today, if not higher. Show me where I supposedly pointed out that there was no reason to rank UCF #3 before the season started. I didn’t. You made that up out of thin air. I make no pretense of being an expert, but the voters in the AP and Coaches polls are supposed to have at least a modicum of expertise. Yet, not one in either poll gave UCF a single vote. And, most of these so-called “experts” gave FSU the undeserved benefit of the doubt. The point is, where a team starts in the polls establishes a ceiling on its final rankings. In 1999, most of the preseason college football annuals predicted Marshall to be a top-10 team by the end of the season. 1999 Marshall was the same team at the beginning of the season, yet started out unranked in both polls. It was a season long, arduous climb for Marshall to eventually reach its ceiling of #10. Face it, the polls are biased against talented teams from G5 conferences. Always have been and always will be. So, my question remains unanswered: “where would UCF be ranked today if it began the season at #3 in the major polls”? |
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