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Post by cjhawkeyes on Nov 5, 2017 14:47:56 GMT
FBS
1 -Alabama 42
2 -Georgia 41
3 -Notre Dame 39
4 -Wisconsin 36
5 -Clemson 36
6 -Central Florida 34
7 -Southern California 34
8 -Penn State 32
9 -Miami-Florida 31
10 -Texas Christian 30
11 -Michigan State 30
12 -Ohio State 29
13 -Oklahoma 28
14 -Memphis 27
15 -Boise State 27
16 -Washington 26
17 -Washington State 25
18 -Toledo 24
19 -San Diego State 24
20 -Iowa 24
21 -Mississippi State 23
22 -Oklahoma State 22
23 -Michigan 21
24 -Auburn 20
25 -Virginia Tech 20
FCS
1 James Madison 39
2 Central Arkansas 31
3 Elon 30
4 Wofford 29
5 Sam Houston State 28
6 South Dakota State 28
7 Jacksonville State 27
8 Monmouth 26
9 North Dakota State 25
10 North Carolina A&T 24
11 Weber State 24
12 Western Illinois 24
13 Yale 23
14 Southern Utah 23
15 South Dakota 23
16 Stony Brook 21
17 San Diego 20
18 Furman 20
19 Grambling State 18
20 Dartmouth 18
21 Columbia 18
22 Eastern Washington 18
23 Nicholls State 17
24 Austin Peay 17
25 Northern Iowa 17
FCS PLAYOFF FIELD
1 James Madison AB
2 Central Arkansas AB
3 Elon AL
4 Wofford AB
5 Sam Houston State AL
6 South Dakota State AL
7 Jacksonville State AB
8 Monmouth AB
9 North Dakota State AB
10 Weber State AB
11 Western Illinois AL
12 Southern Utah AL
13 South Dakota AL
14 Stony Brook AL
15 San Diego AB
16 Furman AL
17 Eastern Washington AL
18 Nicholls State AL
19 Austin Peay AL
20 Northern Iowa AL
21 McNeese State AL
22 Duquesne AB
23 Western Carolina AL
24 Colgate AB
FIRST EIGHT OUT
Delaware
Kennesaw State
New Hampshire
Illinois State
Samford
Richmond
Northern Arizona
Montana
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Post by bluehen on Nov 5, 2017 18:19:57 GMT
Thanks again for the Championship Division stuff, cjh......and the Exhibition Division stuff too, I guess.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 5, 2017 21:03:34 GMT
Thanks again for the Championship Division stuff, cjh......and the Exhibition Division stuff too, I guess. Another one of those idiotic ranking systems?
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Post by cjhawkeyes on Nov 5, 2017 21:20:26 GMT
Thanks again for the Championship Division stuff, cjh......and the Exhibition Division stuff too, I guess. Another one of those idiotic ranking systems?
Yes. This one is mine though.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 5, 2017 22:14:58 GMT
Another one of those idiotic ranking systems?
Yes. This one is mine though.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 5, 2017 22:24:14 GMT
CPA claims Sagarin is the end all of ranking systems and references that system to make points...therefore CPA must agree that 7-2 Penn State is currently the 2nd best team in the FBS because it says so right there in the Sagarin rankings. What do you think, CPA ? Is Sagarin right or nuts ?
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 6, 2017 0:54:37 GMT
CPA claims Sagarin is the end all of ranking systems and references that system to make points...therefore CPA must agree that 7-2 Penn State is currently the 2nd best team in the FBS because it says so right there in the Sagarin rankings. What do you think, CPA ? Is Sagarin right or nuts ? I've never made that claim, and I don't have to agree that Penn State is #2. In fact, I don't.
I reference a lot of data points.
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Post by cjhawkeyes on Nov 6, 2017 2:02:07 GMT
Thanks again for the Championship Division stuff, cjh......and the Exhibition Division stuff too, I guess. I found three sites that do FCS Bracketology. 7 of my 8 top seeds were given a bye by one of these sites. 21 of 24 teams were selected for the playoffs and the remaining three were among the first 8 out.
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Post by Bevo on Nov 6, 2017 13:22:00 GMT
Seeing Wisconsin this high on your list suggests that their schedule is not quite as weak as everyone says?
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 6, 2017 13:59:30 GMT
Seeing Wisconsin this high on your list suggests that their schedule is not quite as weak as everyone says? Maybe.
Whisky (68) is worst in top 10, 2nd worst in t30 behind UCF (92) - Sagarin
James Howell's rankings give a similar picture Whisky. 517 only Washington .493 and UCF .453 are worse in Top 20.
NCAA rank is 58.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 6, 2017 15:08:45 GMT
I believe 7-0 Penn State was the 3rd to 5th best team in CF according to Sagarin. Now that PSU has a 2 game losing streak and has improved to 7-2 it has become the 2nd best team in CF. That's all you need to know about Sagarin.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 6, 2017 16:13:04 GMT
I believe 7-0 Penn State was the 3rd to 5th best team in CF according to Sagarin. Now that PSU has a 2 game losing streak and has improved to 7-2 it has become the 2nd best team in CF. That's all you need to know about Sagarin. www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
Yep, and look at the green column ("Recent") - PSU has dropped to the 8th "best" team recently, aligned with CJ's ranks above.
Still at #2 for all-in comparative performance YTD, primarily because of their strength of schedule and MOV.
Texas with the hardest schedule YTD (#2).
Heck, even 2 of the systems in the massey composite have PSU #1 this week.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 6, 2017 16:33:15 GMT
In fact a quick compare of CJ and Sagarin:
CJ team SAG
1 Bama 1 2 UGA 3 3 ND 2 4 Wisc 7 5 Clem 4 6 UCF 13 7 USC 11 8 PSU 8 9 MIA 6 10 TCU 10
On the raw (ABS) data, CJ and Sagarin differ by 2 spots per team.
On the net data, it's a mere 1 spot per team.
UCF is the biggest differential, most likely owing to the fact that UCF has played the easiest schedule of anyone in the top 20, beating up on cupcakes, relative to the rest of the top 20.
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Post by cjhawkeyes on Nov 6, 2017 16:43:51 GMT
Seeing Wisconsin this high on your list suggests that their schedule is not quite as weak as everyone says? It is in the 70s under my system but good enough thanks 9 games and many other 0-1 loss teams with weak schedules too.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 6, 2017 16:45:33 GMT
Seeing Wisconsin this high on your list suggests that their schedule is not quite as weak as everyone says? It is in the 70s under my system bit good enough thanks 9 games and many other 0-1 loss teams with weak schedules too. Hey CJ, remind me of your key factors and methodology - went to your site, but did not see it explicitly listed, nor did I search for it for a long time
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