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Post by ajbuckeye on Dec 17, 2018 21:15:00 GMT
There are definitely a few things that seem a bit off when I looked into the New Years 6 and the selection process.
The selection committee can use any criteria when ranking the teams and the chose to have Florida 10, LSU 11, PSU 12, and Texas 14.
When you look at the massey rankings composite they had PSU ahead of Florida but in typical fashion the committee gives the SEC the benefit of the doubt. This one I can probably live with.
Then when the select the New Year 6 the pick the number 14 team with 4 losses from their own ranking system ahead of a the number 12 team with 3 losses and the number 13 team with 2 losses? ?
Then when the committee puts the matchups together they are required to put Washington and Ohio State in the Rose. From that point they can matchup any teams however they choose. Why would you not put ttun up against UGA???
It almost seems like the committee went out of its way to protect themselves having the remote possibility of looking bad.
Had the put in what they viewed were the top 12 then the matchups should have been.
Washington vs tOSU UGU vs ttun PSU vs Florida LSU vs UCF
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 17, 2018 23:49:53 GMT
There are definitely a few things that seem a bit off when I looked into the New Years 6 and the selection process.
The selection committee can use any criteria when ranking the teams and the chose to have Florida 10, LSU 11, PSU 12, and Texas 14.
When you look at the massey rankings composite they had PSU ahead of Florida but in typical fashion the committee gives the SEC the benefit of the doubt. This one I can probably live with.
Then when the select the New Year 6 the pick the number 14 team with 4 losses from their own ranking system ahead of a the number 12 team with 3 losses and the number 13 team with 2 losses? ?
Then when the committee puts the matchups together they are required to put Washington and Ohio State in the Rose. From that point they can matchup any teams however they choose. Why would you not put ttun up against UGA???
It almost seems like the committee went out of its way to protect themselves having the remote possibility of looking bad.
Had the put in what they viewed were the top 12 then the matchups should have been.
Washington vs tOSU UGU vs ttun PSU vs Florida LSU vs UCF
you're primarily talking about the Texas-Georgia matchup, right? I think the SEC and Big 12 signed a contract with the Sugar Bowl a few years back to send their champs to.
I agree though, Georgia vs. Michigan would have been a damn good matchup
I think Michigan will bludgeon Florida...I think the Gators are overrated and don't belong in the NY6. Then again, it was a pretty mediocre season, so...
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Post by jameshowell on Dec 18, 2018 13:11:21 GMT
The contract bowls (Rose, Sugar, Orange) get teams from the conferences they are contracted with when not hosting the playoffs.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Dec 18, 2018 13:28:33 GMT
My understanding was that it was up to the committee to pick the NY6 and determine who plays where. Since the ACC, SEC, and B12 all sent there champs to the playoff, then the bowl tie-ins no longer matter. Yep primarily the Texas - UGA matchup is what gets me. Why would the committee take the number 14 team over the number 12 team from there own ranking system? Why not put the best possible matchups together?
Right now we have 4 games and 4 very clear favorites. No matter what the outcomes of these games are (unless UGA completely lays an egg) the committee will likely be able to pat themselves on the back.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Dec 18, 2018 13:31:35 GMT
The contract bowls (Rose, Sugar, Orange) get teams from the conferences they are contracted with when not hosting the playoffs. If that were true then 9 - 3 Syracuse would be in the Orange.
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Post by jameshowell on Dec 18, 2018 19:06:48 GMT
WHEN THEY ARE NOT HOSTING THE PLAYOFFS
Here is how it works. There are three contract bowls (Rose: Big Ten vs. Pac 12, Sugar: SEC vs. Big 12, and Orange: ACC vs. SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame) and three access bowls (Fiesta, Cotton, Peach - all open slots). Two bowls host the playoff semi-finals and those are the top four teams regardless of conference affiliation. Of note, the Orange cannot get the Big Ten or SEC champion when the Rose and Sugar are hosting the semi-finals (they still get an SEC or Big Ten team or Notre Dame, just not the champion, and the champions are still guaranteed slots), With that caveat, after the four playoff teams, the contract bowls are filled by the conference champions (if not in the playoffs) of their respective conferences or the next highest rated team from that conference (if the champion is in the playoff). If the top rated G5 champion (must be a conference champion) is not in the playoff, then they are guaranteed a slot in an access bowl. Any remaining slots in access bowls are then filled by the highest rated remaining teams. The committee has some leeway in which teams go to which access bowls, but very little leeway in selecting which teams make the NY6 bowls (although they do concoct the ratings).
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Post by jameshowell on Dec 18, 2018 19:15:01 GMT
A little more on the Orange.
When they are not hosting the semis, they get the ACC champ (if not in the playoff) or the next highest rated ACC team (if the champ is in the playoff). For the other side, they get the highest rated team (not in the playoffs) out of the Big Ten (but not the champ), SEC (but not the champ), or Notre Dame with the following caveat: over the current 12-year contract, the Big Ten and SEC are guaranteed three appearances each and Notre Dame can be selected no more than twice (but is not guaranteed any appearances). Note that the Orange will host the semis four times in 12 years so six of the remaining eight go to the SEC and Big Ten and the other two go to SEC, Big Ten, or Notre Dame.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Dec 18, 2018 19:23:44 GMT
WHEN THEY ARE NOT HOSTING THE PLAYOFFS Here is how it works. There are three contract bowls (Rose: Big Ten vs. Pac 12, Sugar: SEC vs. Big 12, and Orange: ACC vs. SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame) and three access bowls (Fiesta, Cotton, Peach - all open slots). Two bowls host the playoff semi-finals and those are the top four teams regardless of conference affiliation. Of note, the Orange cannot get the Big Ten or SEC champion when the Rose and Sugar are hosting the semi-finals (they still get an SEC or Big Ten team or Notre Dame, just not the champion, and the champions are still guaranteed slots), With that caveat, after the four playoff teams, the contract bowls are filled by the conference champions (if not in the playoffs) of their respective conferences or the next highest rated team from that conference (if the champion is in the playoff). If the top rated G5 champion (must be a conference champion) is not in the playoff, then they are guaranteed a slot in an access bowl. Any remaining slots in access bowls are then filled by the highest rated remaining teams. The committee has some leeway in which teams go to which access bowls, but very little leeway in selecting which teams make the NY6 bowls (although they do concoct the ratings). So that being said, the Sugar has tie ins with the SEC and BIG 12 and they chose decided to Select 9 - 4 Texas over 9 - 3 Penn State Then using that same logic the Orange Bowl should have selected 9 - 3 Syracuse over 9 - 3 Florida
The clearly are not very consistent in how they selected the 6
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Post by Bevo on Dec 18, 2018 20:11:28 GMT
Why not put the best possible matchups together? I think I asked the same question two weeks ago, the day after the matchups were announced.
I don't understand why Texas is being asked to play the 3rd best team in the country?
Who did we make mad?
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Post by bluehen on Dec 18, 2018 21:22:24 GMT
Scrap this system and replace with a genuine all inclusive championship playoff.
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Post by jameshowell on Dec 19, 2018 15:07:39 GMT
> Then using that same logic the Orange Bowl should have selected 9 - 3 Syracuse over 9 - 3 Florida
What are you talking about? The Orange is hosting the semis and has Alabama-Oklahoma.
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Post by jameshowell on Dec 19, 2018 15:11:36 GMT
If you are talking about the Peach Bowl (Michigan vs. Florida), those slots go to the highest rated teams and Florida is #10, Syracuse is #20.
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Post by doc on Dec 19, 2018 15:48:32 GMT
The thing is, haven't Florida and Michigan played several times recently? I'd rather see them both play someone else - would have really liked to see a UM vs Georgia game. It's almost like the committee manipulated pairings so there was no way their playoff rankings could be questioned.
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Post by bluehen on Dec 19, 2018 20:31:03 GMT
Playoff brackets are better than exhibition game match ups
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Post by Bevo on Dec 19, 2018 23:24:38 GMT
Playoff brackets are better than exhibition game match ups FBS has both. The PLayoff brackets just don't invite every team with a pulse.
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