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Post by bluehen on Aug 14, 2019 12:53:11 GMT
The lack of understanding of the difference between the US 'shoot em up ' gun culture and gun culture in the rest of the industrialized world is really astonishing.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 13:09:16 GMT
The lack of understanding of the difference between the US 'shoot em up ' gun culture and gun culture in the rest of the industrialized world is really astonishing. yes... It is pretty astonishing that you understand so little about where gun violence occurs in the US.
I guess that's because, where you live, it's NO HIGHER than in any of these other wonderful countries that you want us to be.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 14, 2019 15:34:03 GMT
Gun deaths by country / race:
US White .32 Holland .33 UK .14 France .15 Canada .53 Italy .71
US Black 12.5 Ecuador 12.7
Homicides by race - US
White 2.54 National Average 4.27 Black 16.91
Taking bets to see if the media would ever report this?
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Post by bluehen on Aug 14, 2019 16:51:48 GMT
The single most dangerous problem for our democracy is dumbth factor voting. " biggest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter" . Now, don't know if Churchill was right about all democracies but he ( or whoever) was 100% spot on about ours. It should be a much more exclusive privilege to help decide the direction of our nation....not something afforded equally to all dummies and severely uneducated people.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 17:02:54 GMT
Now, don't know if Churchill was right about all democracies but he ( or whoever) was 100% spot on about ours You DO KNOW... or, should know by now that Churchill did NOT say this.... and, yet... you can't help but repeat it? And, in the next breath, you complain about Trump's lies (exaggerations, etc... )
Can't let FACTS ruin a good story, or useful quote....
Too funny
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Post by bluehen on Aug 14, 2019 17:07:57 GMT
That's undetermined if he actually said that or not but if you'll notice the "whoever" in my post Bevo I acknowledge that. Reading comprehension. Whatever / whoever the source of the "five minute" comment it's a TRUE STORY and the root of our problems.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 18:06:25 GMT
That's undetermined if he actually said that or not but if you'll notice the "whoever" in my post Bevo I acknowledge that. Reading comprehension. Whatever / whoever the source of the "five minute" comment it's a TRUE STORY and the root of our problems. It's wrong to attribute quotes to someone who CANNOT be proven to have said it. Putting "Or whoever" in parenthesis doesn't make the wrong right.
If Trump did the same, you'd be the first person on here criticizing him.
It doesn't "Start at the Top" - BH It "Starts in the Mirror" - MJ
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Post by bluehen on Aug 14, 2019 19:13:42 GMT
Maybe check your own mirror there , Bevo. Again , it doesn't matter who said it, although more accounts credit Churchill than discredit him based on a 10 minute search I just did. I don't care either way. My choice of "whoever" pretty well covers the source, does it not ?...and it's so true. Voter dumbth and gullibility is the crack in this system
btw, the single most important mirror in the country is in trump's bathroom or closet. ( all starts at the top)
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 20:47:21 GMT
Maybe check your own mirror there , Bevo. Again , it doesn't matter who said it, although more accounts credit Churchill than discredit him based on a 10 minute search I just did. I don't care either way. My choice of "whoever" pretty well covers the source, does it not ?...and it's so true. Voter dumbth and gullibility is the crack in this system btw, the single most important mirror in the country is in trump's bathroom or closet. ( all starts at the top) BrainyQuotes.com is NOT the definitive source for whether Churchill said it. WinstonChurchill.org is. They have ALL of his written papers and videos and a staff of dedicated researchers.
There is a TON of CRAP on the internet Hen. Try not to add to the pile.
As for the "top"? The Tops of ABC/CNN/MSNBC/CBS/NBC should look in their own mirrors. Trump will never stop responding to their despicable attacks. Nor should he.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 15, 2019 21:16:15 GMT
Like I suggested before, trump might actually enjoy being attacked because he seems to enjoy verbal combat and counter attacking. So there's a theory for ya .....he says all the stupid and hurtful things on purpose to draw verbal combat.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 15, 2019 21:52:39 GMT
Like I suggested before, trump might actually enjoy being attacked because he seems to enjoy verbal combat and counter attacking. So there's a theory for ya .....he says all the stupid and hurtful things on purpose to draw verbal combat. You're partially right... he does enjoy the verbal contact and counter punching... but, its practically ALWASY a counter-punch. He generally doesn't just randomly attack people.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 16, 2019 2:19:59 GMT
Hmmmm.. maybe not too randomly. He certainly attacks the many trumpworld defectors that just wake up one day with a conscience and decide they cannot continue to kiss his ass anymore and live with themselves. I think much of the dedicated 'base' loves his 'sport' of verbal combat, childish insulting and name calling because they think its very funny, clever and entertaining. We Americans have different sophistication levels of humor, that's for sure.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 16, 2019 12:55:26 GMT
I think much of the dedicated 'base' loves his 'sport' of verbal combat, childish insulting and name calling because they think its very funny, clever and entertaining. We Americans have different sophistication levels of humor, that's for sure.
I like the fact that he fights back. I don't always approve of his word choices. But fighting back is better than just ignoring it, like W did.
I heard some MSNBC types saying the other day that "Trump's responses just don't dignify the office of President. There USED to be some restraint from the President".
True... but, there also USED to be some reverence in the way people talked ABOUT the President. That went away long before Trump arrived.
Trump is the RESPONSE To the decline of civility on the part of Dems and the media. NOT the cause of it.
I don't see anything changing until/unless we go through a few rounds of bloodshed, as we did in the 60's.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 16, 2019 13:51:17 GMT
All you have to do is look at Chicago...we don't need gun control.
19 gun offenders over the past weekend. 11 are already back on the street. Eleven.
3 were given signature bonds (release on a "promise" they will show up for court. 7 others paid their bond. $100-$500. 1 paid a $7,500 bond and was also released.
We don't need gun control, we need criminal control.
Judges keep releasing these folks with multiple felonies, including firearm felonies like illegal possession of a gun.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 16, 2019 15:51:08 GMT
We need mass slaughter weaponry restrictions and DEFINITELY a criminal justice system with teeth !
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