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Post by bluehen on Sept 3, 2019 20:57:00 GMT
NFL players per conference member "
SEC - 24.57 per ( this showing almost tied its record 2015 numbers of 25.5 per)
B10 - 18.00 "
P12 - 16.33 "
ACC - 15.85 "
B12 - 13.70 "
AAC - 8.00 "
MWC - 5.33 "
CUSA - 4.71 "
MAC - 3.83 "
SBC - 2.30 "
11th consecutive year at #1 for SEC
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Post by Bevo on Sept 3, 2019 21:37:38 GMT
and yet, I hear people on the radio (Sirius College Football Channel) droning on and on about how the SEC is "NO BETTER" than any other conference.
This data would suggest otherwise.
It pretty clearly shows where the talent is... and, where it isn't. Also highlight the GAP between the P5 and G5.
I read some guy the other day saying the "P5" these days is really just five TEAMS, not conferences. (BAMA, Clemson, OSU, OU, UGA). Hard to argue against it based on 5 year results.
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Post by bluehen on Sept 4, 2019 1:11:51 GMT
Any talking head that doesn't acknowledge the SEC's best raw talent density is nuts. It can't be denied. Sometimes, however, that talent advantage doesn't manifest itself on the playing fields ...like a losing bowl record over the past 3 seasons. The SEC , especially the top tier , is the best recruiting conference and unless coaching screws up that talent it will certainly result in the best NFL production.
There certainly is a talent gap between so called P5 and G5 leagues ( because of limited opportunities) but not necessarily individual teams. For example UCF, Boise State, Temple among others produce more NFLers than 45-50 % of the so called P5 teams. I can give you the 2019 roster count numbers if you'd like to take a look.
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Post by Bevo on Sept 4, 2019 1:37:29 GMT
Any talking head that doesn't acknowledge the SEC's best raw talent density is nuts. It can't be denied. Sometimes, however, that talent advantage doesn't manifest itself on the playing fields ...like a losing bowl record over the past 3 seasons. The SEC , especially the top tier , is the best recruiting conference and unless coaching screws up that talent it will certainly result in the best NFL production. The guy was nuts.. I didn't listen long. The SEC does have some crappy teams, as ALL conference do. But, they have quite a number of really good teams too. Did you know, Stoops from Kentucky is the ONLY coach in FBS that can claim to have had the same, or better record EVERY year for the past 6 years? That's not so easy to do. I don't get the fascination with the SEC recent bowl record. When a conference has TWO teams in the CFP, the rest of their bowl matchups are sure to be less than favorable. And, when a conference has NO teams in the CFP, they are assured of having slightly better bowl matchups. It's not rocket science. There certainly is a talent gap between so called P5 and G5 leagues ( because of limited opportunities) but not necessarily individual teams. For example UCF, Boise State, Temple among others produce more NFLers than 45-50 % of the so called P5 teams. I can give you the 2019 roster count numbers if you'd like to take a look. There is a LARGE gap in talent between the P5 and G5 conferences.. mostly, because of differences in resources. But, there is some overlap. There are a handful of teams in the G5 that could be competitive in a P5 conference... but, they wouldn't be dominant. They'll beat the Tennessee's and Vanderbilts… but, even a good Houston team was very clearly outmatched against a GOOD P5 team like Oklahoma. I remember what it was liked to play football against people that were all bigger, faster, and better prepared. It wasn't that much fun.
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Post by bluehen on Sept 4, 2019 2:35:05 GMT
It sure wasn't fun for Georgia State, Boise State, Wyoming, Nevada, Hawaii, and Memphis playing against bigger, faster and better prepared people in week 1. Those games might inspire those programs to give up football.
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Post by Bevo on Sept 4, 2019 13:21:04 GMT
It sure wasn't fun for Georgia State, Boise State, Wyoming, Nevada, Hawaii, and Memphis playing against bigger, faster and better prepared people in week 1. Those games might inspire those programs to give up football. Clearly, you didn’t watch much of the Tenn-Ga State game. Tenn might have been bigger, but they WEREN’T faster, and they DEFINITELY were not better prepared.
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Post by bluehen on Sept 4, 2019 14:01:13 GMT
Of course I watched it, Bevo...and parts of the other games in which , so called, 'G5' teams dumped mighty self proclaimed 'P5' teams What you posted is impossible because you've explained to me numerous times that P5 football is a whole different level than G5 football.
btw, Re: the NFL count I see that there are 24 Vols in the NFL and 2 guys from Ga State.
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Post by Bevo on Sept 4, 2019 21:39:28 GMT
What you posted is impossible because you've explained to me numerous times that P5 football is a whole different level than G5 football. They are completely different levels of football. G5 teams win around 15% of their games against P5.
And, by the way, NEITHER the G5 nor P5 were "self-proclaimed". They've been labeled thus by media members who can see the very obvious imbalance.
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Post by bluehen on Sept 5, 2019 3:05:06 GMT
Yeah, Tennessee, Florida State, Missouri, UCLA, Purdue, Arizona and Ole Miss got a good dose of that imbalance right in their kissers this past weekend.
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Post by Bevo on Sept 5, 2019 11:35:22 GMT
Yeah, Tennessee, Florida State, Missouri, UCLA, Purdue, Arizona and Ole Miss got a good dose of that imbalance right in their kissers this past weekend. 7 high profile wins.... out of how many games played ?
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Post by bluehen on Sept 5, 2019 18:03:39 GMT
I don't know but none of them should have happened if the 'imbalance' is as great as you like to perceive.
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Post by Bevo on Sept 6, 2019 1:56:05 GMT
I don't know but none of them should have happened if the 'imbalance' is as great as you like to perceive. 85% does not equal 100%. I’ve always said there is overlap. Plus, the ball is still an oblong. Crazy shit happens. But, Tennessee would have lost 99 times out of a 100. Sometimes, you just have to tip your hat to the underdogs.
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