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Post by kentflash_05 on Oct 7, 2019 20:37:28 GMT
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Post by doc on Oct 7, 2019 20:46:59 GMT
How can you explain a team looking listless for parts of two quarters and still muddling its way to eventual dominance?
this is a bit exagerated. They did start slow but they scored 27 points and gained close to 300 yards of offense in the second quarter which is more than MSU got the entire game. They tacked on a 3rd quarter TD and after that, game over. Don't do anything to allow the Spartans a cheap way back into the game, don't let your stars get hurt, keep the ball on the ground and run the clock. That's not listless, it's smart football. Time will hopefully tell if they can beat Clemson or Alabama or LSU - still half a season to play.
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Post by EvilVodka on Oct 7, 2019 23:55:19 GMT
Ohio State still has Wisconsin, Penn State, and Michigan looming on the schedule along with a possible Big 10 Championship game (probably Wisconsin or Iowa)
Ohio State looks good...I've got them at #1. But that schedule is daunting
Beat all those teams, and then you get 2 round of Alabama/Georgia/Clemson/LSU/Oklahoma
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Post by Bevo on Oct 8, 2019 0:49:16 GMT
Ohio State still has Wisconsin, Penn State, and Michigan looming on the schedule along with a possible Big 10 Championship game (probably Wisconsin or Iowa) Ohio State looks good...I've got them at #1. But that schedule is daunting Beat all those teams, and then you get 2 round of Alabama/Georgia/Clemson/LSU/Oklahoma Michigan? LOL... Ohio State will END the Harbaugh era with an EPIC beatdown in the big house. Penn State will be a tough opponent. I wouldn't want to have to play Wisconsin twice... although, that stat Tiger showed about the # of 4/5 star recruits shows that Wisky doesn't have the same talent level. Or else, they develop talent WAYYYY better than anyone else. Maybe, Texas needs to import Wisconsin cheese?  |
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Post by tigercpa on Oct 8, 2019 14:55:05 GMT
How can you explain a team looking listless for parts of two quarters and still muddling its way to eventual dominance? this is a bit exagerated. They did start slow but they scored 27 points and gained close to 300 yards of offense in the second quarter which is more than MSU got the entire game. They tacked on a 3rd quarter TD and after that, game over. Don't do anything to allow the Spartans a cheap way back into the game, don't let your stars get hurt, keep the ball on the ground and run the clock. That's not listless, it's smart football. Time will hopefully tell if they can beat Clemson or Alabama or LSU - still half a season to play. I looked back to see when MSU had a really good QB (back to Kirk Cousins?) and wonder if that would help them get higher in the B1G....but then I think it's more their overall system is just outdated and stale? |
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Post by doc on Oct 8, 2019 15:09:46 GMT
Connor Cook actually had a pretty good career at MSU - and he was from Ohio.
Dantonio is an old school guy. Win running the ball and solid defense. Nothing fancy to their offense. Wisconsin is pretty much the same way. They don't get many 4 and 5 stars but they get tough, smart players who are very coachable and don't make many mistakes.
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Post by tigercpa on Oct 8, 2019 23:20:43 GMT
Connor Cook actually had a pretty good career at MSU - and he was from Ohio. Dantonio is an old school guy. Win running the ball and solid defense. Nothing fancy to their offense. Wisconsin is pretty much the same way. They don't get many 4 and 5 stars but they get tough, smart players who are very coachable and don't make many mistakes. Yep. Plus, having to punt 7 times wears out a defense, especially when you have to go back out quickly and get steamrolled by Dobbins  |
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Post by bluehen on Oct 9, 2019 13:19:25 GMT
Connor Cook actually had a pretty good career at MSU - and he was from Ohio. Dantonio is an old school guy. Win running the ball and solid defense. Nothing fancy to their offense. Wisconsin is pretty much the same way. They don't get many 4 and 5 stars but they get tough, smart players who are very coachable and don't make many mistakes. good point, doc...there is still a little bit of room in this sport for intelligence,discipline and toughness ( mental and physical ).... vs the more common quest for raw 4/ 5 star speed and athleticism. That's why I admire the service academy teams plus HCs like Chryst, Cutcliffe, Shaw etc. and what they can accomplish.
....and why some of these teams often show up in SOH's
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Post by doc on Oct 9, 2019 13:31:00 GMT
Connor Cook actually had a pretty good career at MSU - and he was from Ohio. Dantonio is an old school guy. Win running the ball and solid defense. Nothing fancy to their offense. Wisconsin is pretty much the same way. They don't get many 4 and 5 stars but they get tough, smart players who are very coachable and don't make many mistakes. good point, doc...there is still a little bit of room in this sport for intelligence,discipline and toughness ( mental and physical ).... vs the more common quest for raw 4/ 5 star speed and athleticism. That's why I admire the service academy teams plus HCs like Chryst, Cutcliffe, Shaw etc. and what they can accomplish.
....and why some of these teams often show up in SOH mentions
The thing is not all 4 and 5 star guys are dunderheads. Justin Fields had a 3.9 GPA in high school and scored a 29 on his ACT. That's just one example. But when the 4 and 5 star teams play to their potential it doesn't matter how disciplined the 3 star guys are, they're going to get whacked. They just get worn out and out talented. They 3 star guys are backed up by 2 star guys - the 4 and 5 star teams just roll out another 4 or 5 star. Chase Young takes a breather and Zach Harrison replaces him. Tuf Borland goes out and Baron Browning comes in. JK Dobbins gets a rest and Master Teague doesn't miss a beat. Attrition just takes over. |
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Post by EvilVodka on Oct 10, 2019 23:15:20 GMT
Ohio State still has Wisconsin, Penn State, and Michigan looming on the schedule along with a possible Big 10 Championship game (probably Wisconsin or Iowa) Ohio State looks good...I've got them at #1. But that schedule is daunting Beat all those teams, and then you get 2 round of Alabama/Georgia/Clemson/LSU/Oklahoma Michigan? LOL... Ohio State will END the Harbaugh era with an EPIC beatdown in the big house. Penn State will be a tough opponent. I wouldn't want to have to play Wisconsin twice... although, that stat Tiger showed about the # of 4/5 star recruits shows that Wisky doesn't have the same talent level. Or else, they develop talent WAYYYY better than anyone else. Maybe, Texas needs to import Wisconsin cheese? Michigan is a rivalry game, and they looked a little better with the Iowa win. Shea Patterson is still inconsistent Ohio State's schedule has Penn State, Michigan, and a possible Big 10 champ game all back to back...not easy |
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Post by doc on Oct 11, 2019 1:19:27 GMT
Michigan? LOL... Ohio State will END the Harbaugh era with an EPIC beatdown in the big house. Penn State will be a tough opponent. I wouldn't want to have to play Wisconsin twice... although, that stat Tiger showed about the # of 4/5 star recruits shows that Wisky doesn't have the same talent level. Or else, they develop talent WAYYYY better than anyone else. Maybe, Texas needs to import Wisconsin cheese? Michigan is a rivalry game, and they looked a little better with the Iowa win. Shea Patterson is still inconsistent Ohio State's schedule has Penn State, Michigan, and a possible Big 10 champ game all back to back...not easy Anything’s possible - I’m just going to enjoy the ride. But Ohio State has a few weapons than Iowa and Justin Fields isn’t a statue. My biggest concern is the real possibility of having to beat Wisconsin twice. |
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Post by Bevo on Oct 11, 2019 1:49:59 GMT
Michigan? LOL... Ohio State will END the Harbaugh era with an EPIC beatdown in the big house. Penn State will be a tough opponent. I wouldn't want to have to play Wisconsin twice... although, that stat Tiger showed about the # of 4/5 star recruits shows that Wisky doesn't have the same talent level. Or else, they develop talent WAYYYY better than anyone else. Maybe, Texas needs to import Wisconsin cheese? Ohio State's schedule has Penn State, Michigan, and a possible Big 10 champ game all back to back...not easy Yea... that's a legit tough three games. Even though Michigan is awful this year, it's still a rivalry game. Always tough. But, that is the END of their season. They get a few weeks off after that. |
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