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Post by Bevo on Oct 13, 2019 20:00:50 GMT
Ohio State will most likely have to beat Wisconsin twice to make the playoff. I guess they could lose on October 26 and then win in the BIG Championship but then they’d be at the mercy of the committee. Georgia got a mulligan a couple years ago, Oklahoma got a mulligan last year - they’re not going to give the BIG a mulligan. Can't specifically prove anything but I feel pretty confident that ESPN can get what it wants from the DPI committee. You should call the New York Times... you're on to the corruption story of the century.
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Post by doc on Oct 13, 2019 21:12:32 GMT
- they’re not going to give the BIG a mulligan. Oh please.. cry me a river. The B1G got a mulligan in the FIRST year, and they'll get more when they deserve it. By mulligan I mean they got a do-over, rematch - and won. Georgia got to play Auburn a second time and won, same with Oklahoma over Texas last year. Maybe we just have different definitions of mulligan....
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Post by Bevo on Oct 13, 2019 22:13:47 GMT
Oh please.. cry me a river. The B1G got a mulligan in the FIRST year, and they'll get more when they deserve it. By mulligan I mean they got a do-over, rematch - and won. Georgia got to play Auburn a second time and won, same with Oklahoma over Texas last year. Maybe we just have different definitions of mulligan.... Those weren't given by the CFP, they were dictated by league rules. The same thing is possible in the B1G. You could easily LOSE to Wisconsin, and get to play them again in the B1G CCG. A "Mulligan" is when a 1-loss team is invited to the CFP.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Oct 14, 2019 2:12:13 GMT
T - they’re not going to give the BIG a mulligan. Oh please.. cry me a river. The B1G got a mulligan in the FIRST year, and they'll get more when they deserve it. Everytime the SEC has had a mulligan they have gotten in. There have been 7 BIG teams with mulligans only 3 got it. Wisconsin deserved it over Alabama. They had equally good wins but Bama lost ugly to Auburn. Wiscy made it the the CCG and lost a a game on the final drive vs. tOSU. They deserved it that year. If you don't think the endless broadcast of ESPN pushing there agenda then we are living in different worlds.
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Post by bluehen on Oct 14, 2019 3:03:42 GMT
Three consecutive seasons in which the B10 champion is not permitted to compete for a, so called, national championship !!??.....what a system.
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Post by Bevo on Oct 14, 2019 17:20:53 GMT
Everytime the SEC has had a mulligan they have gotten in. There have been 7 BIG teams with mulligans only 3 got it. You keep sayin this.... but, I don't understand it. To me, a "Mulligan" is when any team (Champ, or not) gets voted into to the CFP already having one loss. Ohio State has had TWO of them, in only 5 years of this system. Why are you so insistent that they're not being treated fairly? Wisconsin deserved it over Alabama. They had equally good wins but Bama lost ugly to Auburn. Wiscy made it the the CCG and lost a a game on the final drive vs. tOSU. They deserved it that year.
It's debatable, but... I don't think Wisconsin deserved it over Bama that year. Wisconsin LOST Their last game, to Ohio State. If ANYBODY deserved in, it was Ohio State. But, they had TWO losses.
Bama's loss to Auburn was hardly "Ugly".... It was on the road, against their most hated rival (Think, TTUN).. a teams ranked #6 (Higher than OSU), a team who had just defeated the #2 ranked team (UGA) in the country... It was an EPIC game, full of hard hitting and very athletic play. Bama had the lead in the 2nd half of that game. They didn't get blown out. It's not like they lost by 31 to an unranked team. THAT, is ugly.
Of the 1-loss teams available for selection, Bama's resume was at least as strong, or stronger than ANYONE, including Wisky. And, they did with the #1 ranking target on their back ALL YEAR LONG. I think they deserved it, and ZERO SEC bias was involved.
If you don't think the endless broadcast of ESPN pushing there agenda then we are living in different worlds. Sure ESPN pushes their agenda. Why shouldn't they? You think FOX doesn't push their own agenda? But, honestly? How does that impact the selections? ESPN has ZERO people on the committee. It's ALL run by NCAA Presidents and AG's. The SEC doesn't have extra people in the room. I think you guys see boogey men behind every bush. Or, Finebaum in every dark shadow. Turn em OFF. You'll enjoy life more.
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Post by doc on Oct 14, 2019 18:50:59 GMT
By mulligan I mean they got a do-over, rematch - and won. Georgia got to play Auburn a second time and won, same with Oklahoma over Texas last year. Maybe we just have different definitions of mulligan.... Those weren't given by the CFP, they were dictated by league rules. The same thing is possible in the B1G. You could easily LOSE to Wisconsin, and get to play them again in the B1G CCG. A "Mulligan" is when a 1-loss team is invited to the CFP. Like I said - we have different definitions for 'mulligan' although my definition seems to be closer to the actual definition than yours ... A Mulligan, in a game, happens when a player gets a second chance to perform a certain move or action; usually due to lack of skill or bitter luck. A "Do-Over".In 2017, Georgia lost to Auburn in the regular season but got a do-over in the SEC title game... In 2018, Oklahoma lost to Texas in the regular season but got a do-over in the Big XII title game... This year whoever loses in the Wisconsin/Ohio State game may very well get a do-over in the BIG championship. I think the do-over just might favor the team that loses the first game, hard to beat a solid team twice. Maybe we'll see!!
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Post by doc on Oct 14, 2019 18:55:14 GMT
T Oh please.. cry me a river. The B1G got a mulligan in the FIRST year, and they'll get more when they deserve it. Everytime the SEC has had a mulligan they have gotten in. There have been 7 BIG teams with mulligans only 3 got it. Wisconsin deserved it over Alabama. They had equally good wins but Bama lost ugly to Auburn. Wiscy made it the the CCG and lost a a game on the final drive vs. tOSU. They deserved it that year. If you don't think the endless broadcast of ESPN pushing there agenda then we are living in different worlds. I attended the BIG Championship in 2017. Wisconsin was in the game due to Buckeye turnovers but I never felt like they had the skill to beat them. Ohio State basically gave them 10 points on turnovers. The skill level was significantly noticeable and there is no way they were more deserving than Alabama. Wisconsin not being selected saved the BIG from a third straight embarrassing playoff loss. Bama or Clemson would have held defensive team meetings on Hornibrook's back all game long.
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Post by Bevo on Oct 14, 2019 19:19:17 GMT
Those weren't given by the CFP, they were dictated by league rules. The same thing is possible in the B1G. You could easily LOSE to Wisconsin, and get to play them again in the B1G CCG. A "Mulligan" is when a 1-loss team is invited to the CFP. Like I said - we have different definitions for 'mulligan' although my definition seems to be closer to the actual definition than yours … I don't know... I think every team's GOAL is to go undefeated. If you lose a game, and still get a chance to compete for the title, I feel like you're getting a 2nd shot... ie, a 'mulligan'
In looking at the numbers, a P5 team that only loses 1 game still has a 71% chance of making the CFP. If they're from the SEC, ACC, or PAC 12, they still have a 100% chance of making it!
Fun with statistics...
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Post by bluehen on Oct 15, 2019 12:49:33 GMT
150 years of assorted mythical national championship systems for such a great game. That might be sports history's greatest mulligan
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