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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 8, 2019 19:44:55 GMT
For all the talk about Ohio State being a complete team, they are about to play THE complete team of 2019. I think the pressure is on Ohio State to prove they can win over a top team outside of the Big 10.
Clemson has the team speed to shut down Dobbins. They may have the best defense in the playoff, and Brent Venables is a wizard.
This game also reminds me of the last Clemson-Ohio State game at the Fiesta Bowl.
I think if Ohio State can get pressure on Trevor Lawrence, maybe they can disrupt the Tiger offense
I think Clemson wins though, and it might not even be close. A lot of stats favor Clemson
when was the last time Clemson lost? What is the Buckeye record vs. Clemson?
i yi yi Buckeyes
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Post by doc on Dec 8, 2019 19:59:15 GMT
Yeah, Buckeyes might as well not show up.
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Post by Kentflash_05 on Dec 8, 2019 20:12:16 GMT
For all the talk about Ohio State being a complete team, they are about to play THE complete team of 2019. I think the pressure is on Ohio State to prove they can win over a top team outside of the Big 10. Clemson has the team speed to shut down Dobbins. They may have the best defense in the playoff, and Brent Venables is a wizard. This game also reminds me of the last Clemson-Ohio State game at the Fiesta Bowl. I think if Ohio State can get pressure on Trevor Lawrence, maybe they can disrupt the Tiger offense I think Clemson wins though, and it might not even be close. A lot of stats favor Clemson when was the last time Clemson lost? What is the Buckeye record vs. Clemson? i yi yi Buckeyes Please tell me your predicting the Buckeyes to lose? You're a Buckeye lucky charm when you do that. Also pretty sure Ohio State is the only power 5 team with wons over USC, Alabama, Oklahoma and ND over the past decade....so what the hell are you talking about, not to mention back to back Rose Bowl Titles so they've proven plenty more than LSU has in the playoff era. PLEASE TELL ME you're taking Clemson because you're wrong so often.....I'm sure that would make Clemson fans cringe
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 8, 2019 20:46:54 GMT
For all the talk about Ohio State being a complete team, they are about to play THE complete team of 2019. I think the pressure is on Ohio State to prove they can win over a top team outside of the Big 10. Clemson has the team speed to shut down Dobbins. They may have the best defense in the playoff, and Brent Venables is a wizard. This game also reminds me of the last Clemson-Ohio State game at the Fiesta Bowl. I think if Ohio State can get pressure on Trevor Lawrence, maybe they can disrupt the Tiger offense I think Clemson wins though, and it might not even be close. A lot of stats favor Clemson when was the last time Clemson lost? What is the Buckeye record vs. Clemson? i yi yi Buckeyes Please tell me your predicting the Buckeyes to lose? You're a Buckeye lucky charm when you do that. Also pretty sure Ohio State is the only power 5 team with wons over USC, Alabama, Oklahoma and ND over the past decade....so what the hell are you talking about, not to mention back to back Rose Bowl Titles so they've proven plenty more than LSU has in the playoff era. PLEASE TELL ME you're taking Clemson because you're wrong so often.....I'm sure that would make Clemson fans cringe I'm having a hard time seeing Buckeye advantages in this game... Ohio State will have to use Fields and try and get yards every play. You can't run on the outside against Clemson. These advantages that Ohio State has with their skill positions vs. Big 10 teams will disappear vs. Clemson. I don't think it's totally hopeless, but how do you push Clemson out of their gameplan? No one has been able to do that, not this year, not last year. What matchups does Ohio State win in this game? What are the Clemson weaknesses?
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Post by Kentflash_05 on Dec 8, 2019 21:01:18 GMT
Please tell me your predicting the Buckeyes to lose? You're a Buckeye lucky charm when you do that. Also pretty sure Ohio State is the only power 5 team with wons over USC, Alabama, Oklahoma and ND over the past decade....so what the hell are you talking about, not to mention back to back Rose Bowl Titles so they've proven plenty more than LSU has in the playoff era. PLEASE TELL ME you're taking Clemson because you're wrong so often.....I'm sure that would make Clemson fans cringe I'm having a hard time seeing Buckeye advantages in this game... Ohio State will have to use Fields and try and get yards every play. You can't run on the outside against Clemson. These advantages that Ohio State has with their skill positions vs. Big 10 teams will disappear vs. Clemson. I don't think it's totally hopeless, but how do you push Clemson out of their gameplan? No one has been able to do that, not this year, not last year. What matchups does Ohio State win in this game? What are the Clemson weaknesses? We dont know because the ACC has been garbage. Ohio State has been by far the best team Clemson will have played this season. They are a great team and it will be difficult.....that said name a team on that schedule that could is a legit top 20 team? Ohio States result against Clemson 4 years ago is irrelevant because this Buckeye team is a much better team.....and has faced better competition than Clemson this year. It will be a great game, but you're stretching by saying this will be a mismatch.....and I have no,problem with you picking Clemson. Howd that Michigan-Ohio State prediction go for you?
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 9, 2019 14:53:39 GMT
If the only intrigue of the CFP show was who gets the No. 1 seed so they don't have to face the No. 3 seed, then maybe the No. 3 seed should be the No. 1 seed?
Clemson v/ Ohio State has some intriguing matchups:
In the Ohio State Buckeyes, Clemson will see the best offense and defense they have seen all year.
Clemson's got to stop the run first and foremost, Dobbins and then Fields. Venables usually dials this up well, only allowing a 100-yard rusher in 1 of the last 23 games, or something close to that.
Fields has shown tendencies to tuck and run if his first read is not there.
Fields likes to hit Olave down the field & on 3rd down. Clemson SS Muse is a liability in coverage and this concerns me. Muse & Wallace against the deep balls for Clem secondary.
Carman vs Young is one of the most important matchups of the game. I suspect OSU will move Young around a bit, and place him over Anchrum at RT. Carman vs Young is one of the most important matchups of the game. This will be a "bloodfest" Okudah vs Higgins and Ross.
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Post by doc on Dec 9, 2019 15:00:49 GMT
Please tell me your predicting the Buckeyes to lose? You're a Buckeye lucky charm when you do that. Also pretty sure Ohio State is the only power 5 team with wons over USC, Alabama, Oklahoma and ND over the past decade....so what the hell are you talking about, not to mention back to back Rose Bowl Titles so they've proven plenty more than LSU has in the playoff era. PLEASE TELL ME you're taking Clemson because you're wrong so often.....I'm sure that would make Clemson fans cringe I'm having a hard time seeing Buckeye advantages in this game... Ohio State will have to use Fields and try and get yards every play. You can't run on the outside against Clemson. These advantages that Ohio State has with their skill positions vs. Big 10 teams will disappear vs. Clemson. I don't think it's totally hopeless, but how do you push Clemson out of their gameplan? No one has been able to do that, not this year, not last year. What matchups does Ohio State win in this game? What are the Clemson weaknesses? Your analysis makes me wonder truly how much you might know about Ohio State. And I'm only assuming you feel northern speed can't contend with southern speed. Most of JK Dobbins runs are between the tackles - not outside. He'll break to the outside once he get's by the linebackers but they don't pitch it to him to attack the edges. Here is where the OSU skill players are from... Dobbins - Texas Teague - Tennessee Victor - Florida Hill - Arkansas Wilson - Texas Fields - Georgia Mack - Indiana I guess Mack slows the team down considerably being from Ft. Wayne, Indiana. Ohio State has 2 first team defensive All Americans. They have 4-5 offensive players who will be on All American teams. They're entire defensive backfield will play in the NFL. They rotate 8 or 9 guys across the defensive line. I do have concerns about LBers but they've played a lot better this year than last. They're top ten in defense and offense (as is Clemson). And something's gotta give as Clemson is on a 28 game winning streak while OSU is at 18 games. I don't think you know much about Ohio State - you're just basing your opinions on perceptions that may not be true. They could very well get blown out but I think I'll still watch the game.
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 9, 2019 15:22:35 GMT
The big media story line for this one is going to be Justin Fields vs. Trevor Lawrence. These two QBs were considered the best QBs in the country coming out of high school in 2018 and both have performed well.
From a Clemson perspective the real question is going to be how the Tigers hold up against an excellent Ohio State defense.
On the flip side, the match up between Isaiah Simmons and Fields is going to be fantastic. Teams have had success against Ohio State by containing Fields after taking away his first read.
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 9, 2019 16:20:46 GMT
I’m good with whatever happens here forward. We got the conference titled and stomped SC, we’re elite like I always hoped.
I think we can win it all, but you gotta enjoy the ride on top (hat tip to Hero here), and I won’t be sad about losing to another elite team if we do.
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Post by bluehen on Dec 10, 2019 0:08:02 GMT
Good attitude. I'm wanting to see Dabo's career march toward goat conversation/consideration.
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 10, 2019 0:31:04 GMT
Good attitude. I'm wanting to see Dabo's career march toward goat conversation/consideration. Maybe next year, because I fully expect the LSU offense to tear up that Faux Tiger D in New Orleans
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Post by doc on Dec 10, 2019 14:02:05 GMT
In the history of college football - which we all know is 150 years as it's been hammered into our brains this entire season - only 11 teams have managed winning streaks of 30 games or more, which is what Clemson needs to achieve to go back to back. The most recent team to pull this off was Miami from 2000-2002/3, they lost in the Fiesta Bowl BCS Championship game to end their streak at 34. Florida State fell one game short in 2014, losing in the playoff semi-finals to Oregon, snapping a 29 game winning streak. Should Clemson pull this off it will be quite a remarkable streak, especially when you factor it would be their 3rd championship in 4 years. Finish this off and their 4 year record will be 54-3. Here are the longest winning streaks... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_NCAA_Division_I_football_winning_streaks
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 12, 2019 12:20:43 GMT
In the history of college football - which we all know is 150 years as it's been hammered into our brains this entire season - only 11 teams have managed winning streaks of 30 games or more, which is what Clemson needs to achieve to go back to back. The most recent team to pull this off was Miami from 2000-2002/3, they lost in the Fiesta Bowl BCS Championship game to end their streak at 34. Florida State fell one game short in 2014, losing in the playoff semi-finals to Oregon, snapping a 29 game winning streak. Should Clemson pull this off it will be quite a remarkable streak, especially when you factor it would be their 3rd championship in 4 years. Finish this off and their 4 year record will be 54-3. Here are the longest winning streaks... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_NCAA_Division_I_football_winning_streaks Yep, every additional game won adds to the streak, but also adds to the statistics against you. Venables is going to have his hands full with the Buckeyes. He pitched a damn good game against Bama...by studying the film, he quickly picked up on the fact that Tua often anticipates coverage rather than reading coverage. This resulted in 2 INTs that Clemson converted to points. I think we might see Clemson with some 4 DE sets, or at least 3DE and 1DT. That gives up the Dobbins run game, but that’s exactly the ploy that BV used against Bama in the Natty last year – he said "get your stats with the TB, but you won’t score long or in the red zone." And surprisingly we’ve been pretty good in the "inside the 10 yard line game" this year even without the Power Rangers. Very excited to see what Venables does with Simmons. And what Elliott does against Chase Young – Lawrence throws it so well running the opposite way and we can execute perfect rollouts away or towards either side Young lines up on.
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 12, 2019 17:26:54 GMT
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 15, 2019 17:10:57 GMT
Herbstreit says game hinges on Travis Etienne.
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