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Post by aufan on Jul 6, 2023 16:34:39 GMT
ol' mr. conspiracy.....lol. What's the name of that wack-a-doodle conspiracy driven media place that you told me about....the one that instructs you how to think ? I'm just repeating the sworn testimony from the trial. That part I read in the New York Times. They said, EIGHT FBI agents were with them on Jan 6. More than 40 different kinds of law enforcement types were embedded in the group in various places. How many of them Proud Boys were there? www.nytimes.com/2023/03/24/us/proud-boys-fbi-informants.htmlAll just a conspiracy?? lol Keep on believing that. To this day, the ONLY person I've seen, on video, talking about "going IN to the capital", BEFORE Jan 6.... is the ONE guy that hasn't been hunted down and prosecuted. That's how conspiracy theories get started. I swear Hen, if I didn't know any better, I'd think you've passed and AuFan has hacked your account. Hen is just calling out bull shit. Saying that a “pretty good percent” were embedded agents. 4 out of 2000? They had reason to be embedded. What are you even suggesting? The facts seem simple to me. Trump held a rally. Said we need to take back our country. Crowd marched to the capital and ended up rioting. Based on lies from the president that couldn’t take losing. You seem to be entering the realm of Tiger and vodka with their conspiracies. Have fun down that rabbit hole.
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Post by EvilVodka on Jul 6, 2023 16:36:03 GMT
The government wants you to believe, through this psychological trick (forecasting) that it cannot ever know whose cocaine that was in the most heavily monitored (audio and video) and secure building in the entire United States. The general public trusts something more when they are told in advance. I feel like these stories are just distraction pieces
meanwhile, much has been coming out about CISA
And then you have stories like this...facial recognition at LA airports
This one is from WaPo, which is pretty biased and leftist. The TSA was installed after 9/11. Why do we still need them? airports have major security, but the border is wide open? (Also, I thought we just had a pandemic, but the border is wide open??)
If leftists could quietly put their Trump-obsession on the shelf for at least 10 minutes and look around, there is A LOT of alarming news that has steadily poured out the last few years.
What else is being quietly passed through the news cycle while coke-bags are being found in the white house?
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Post by EvilVodka on Jul 6, 2023 16:47:51 GMT
What attack ? You're on the fringe, bevo, in the extreme conspiracy wack-a-doodle stuff you're 'buying'. Violently breaking into chambers and offices Busting doors and windows in the capitol building Assaulting Capitol law officers Throwing dangerous objects at the law officers at capitol Badly injuring Capitol law officers Knocking over police barriers etc.etc.etc x 10 all factually documented America has eyes, Bevo, and America saw with those eyes. Many of those low IQ attack creeps are in jail ( and they are not FBI agents). So there is some footage of some peaceful intruders walking around like tourists...fine. No matter how your 'sources/instructors spin that It doesn't negate the clearly visible and documented violent attack. The documentation of the attack has nothing to do with MSNBC, CNN or any news media. Even that blatant pathological lying Tucker Carlson couldn't get away with that garbage and of course the big rigged election lie he was knowingly lying about night after night. Even FNC has some small semblance of pride and had to fire him. Anyway, Bevo, I enjoy you stuff and value you as a fellow National Champs poster friend but I'm not going to respond to anything you post about that dark day in American history of which you ask 'What attack ? " It insults my intelligence and Iguess it might even insult the intelligence of several posters that don't comment on it but read . You say factually documented, but provide no sources? Did you read the sources Bevo provided?
Here are some more question from Congress directed towards the FBI concerning Ray Epps:
You can demonize all you want, but you're not providing any supporting facts. I don't think you speak for all of America either: "America has eyes"
Dark Day? laughable. It was a political charade...time to wake up and see how 21st century news works...
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Post by EvilVodka on Jul 6, 2023 16:59:47 GMT
I'm just repeating the sworn testimony from the trial. That part I read in the New York Times. They said, EIGHT FBI agents were with them on Jan 6. More than 40 different kinds of law enforcement types were embedded in the group in various places. How many of them Proud Boys were there? www.nytimes.com/2023/03/24/us/proud-boys-fbi-informants.htmlAll just a conspiracy?? lol Keep on believing that. To this day, the ONLY person I've seen, on video, talking about "going IN to the capital", BEFORE Jan 6.... is the ONE guy that hasn't been hunted down and prosecuted. That's how conspiracy theories get started. I swear Hen, if I didn't know any better, I'd think you've passed and AuFan has hacked your account. Hen is just calling out bull shit. Saying that a “pretty good percent” were embedded agents. 4 out of 2000? They had reason to be embedded. What are you even suggesting? The facts seem simple to me. Trump held a rally. Said we need to take back our country. Crowd marched to the capital and ended up rioting. Based on lies from the president that couldn’t take losing. You seem to be entering the realm of Tiger and vodka with their conspiracies. Have fun down that rabbit hole.
some people just don't understand the world around them anymore. Eternally lost in the weeds, behind the curve
Have you ever posted anything substantial on this board?
Thoughts on Ukraine? BRICS? origin of the (scamdemic) virus? the border? the World Economic Forum? the economy? human trafficking? CISA? Taiwan?
The leftists on this board resort to "Orange Man Bad" when they get pushed into a corner and can't adequately explain their position
These dumb responses yall give translate to: "anything beyond my small set of beliefs is a cOnSPiRAcY tHeORy"
Bevo cited THE NEW YORK TIMES...one of the most liberal shitrags in the country. I just cited WaPO lol
Completely Laughable
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Post by bluehen on Jul 6, 2023 17:46:43 GMT
Evil, All the violence I saw was actually shot in a Hollywood studio......the same one that filmed the moon landing. Now excuse me for the rest of the day....gotta go feed my backyard 'Bigfoot'
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Post by Bevo on Jul 6, 2023 18:28:34 GMT
What attack ? You're on the fringe, bevo, in the extreme conspiracy wack-a-doodle stuff you're 'buying'. Violently breaking into chambers and offices Busting doors and windows in the capitol building Assaulting Capitol law officers Throwing dangerous objects at the law officers at capitol Badly injuring Capitol law officers Knocking over police barriers etc.etc.etc x 10 all factually documented America has eyes, Bevo, and America saw with those eyes. I know it's hard, Hen. But, please try to keep track of who posts what in a given thread line. I didn't say "what attack"? That was EV. I suggested that the government knew ahead of time what was coming, or at the very least, knew there was a risk of escalation. And yet, they did virtually nothing to stop it. I asked you why? I saw the attack... it didn't seem to be terribly well coordinated. It certainly didn't rise to the level of insurrection. I saw video of guy, who is almost certainly a federal agent of some sort, calling for people to ENTER the capital the day before the riot.. and he was on video on Jan 6 helping assist people who were going in. Why is he the ONLY person who hasn't been prosecuted? What's that all about? I saw several Federal buildings attacked in 2020. Some taken over temporarily... some burned. I didn't see ANY of those labeled as an "insurrection"... and very few of the people who did it were punished. Now, I'm about 90% sure you've been hacked by AF. I might start checking the Virginia obits.
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Post by EvilVodka on Jul 6, 2023 19:10:46 GMT
Evil, All the violence I saw was actually shot in a Hollywood studio......the same one that filmed the moon landing. Now excuse me for the rest of the day....gotta go feed my backyard 'Bigfoot' No, I get it hen
Republican protests = violent insurrections Democrat protests = extremely peaceful
It makes perfect sense
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Post by aufan on Jul 6, 2023 23:44:30 GMT
What attack ? You're on the fringe, bevo, in the extreme conspiracy wack-a-doodle stuff you're 'buying'. Violently breaking into chambers and offices Busting doors and windows in the capitol building Assaulting Capitol law officers Throwing dangerous objects at the law officers at capitol Badly injuring Capitol law officers Knocking over police barriers etc.etc.etc x 10 all factually documented America has eyes, Bevo, and America saw with those eyes. I know it's hard, Hen. But, please try to keep track of who posts what in a given thread line. I didn't say "what attack"? That was EV. I suggested that the government knew ahead of time what was coming, or at the very least, knew there was a risk of escalation. And yet, they did virtually nothing to stop it. I asked you why? I saw the attack... it didn't seem to be terribly well coordinated. It certainly didn't rise to the level of insurrection. I saw video of guy, who is almost certainly a federal agent of some sort, calling for people to ENTER the capital the day before the riot.. and he was on video on Jan 6 helping assist people who were going in. Why is he the ONLY person who hasn't been prosecuted? What's that all about? I saw several Federal buildings attacked in 2020. Some taken over temporarily... some burned. I didn't see ANY of those labeled as an "insurrection"... and very few of the people who did it were punished. Now, I'm about 90% sure you've been hacked by AF. I might start checking the Virginia obits. You have answered your own question. There wasn’t coordination. At best a handful saying stupid things but no real plan. There was nothing pre planned to stop. It was a crowd that got excited by the president and it escalated. The president was irresponsible that day and anyone who has two brain cells would simply be embarrassed by his actions that day.
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Post by aufan on Jul 6, 2023 23:50:49 GMT
Hen is just calling out bull shit. Saying that a “pretty good percent” were embedded agents. 4 out of 2000? They had reason to be embedded. What are you even suggesting? The facts seem simple to me. Trump held a rally. Said we need to take back our country. Crowd marched to the capital and ended up rioting. Based on lies from the president that couldn’t take losing. You seem to be entering the realm of Tiger and vodka with their conspiracies. Have fun down that rabbit hole.
some people just don't understand the world around them anymore. Eternally lost in the weeds, behind the curve
Have you ever posted anything substantial on this board?
Thoughts on Ukraine? BRICS? origin of the (scamdemic) virus? the border? the World Economic Forum? the economy? human trafficking? CISA? Taiwan?
The leftists on this board resort to "Orange Man Bad" when they get pushed into a corner and can't adequately explain their position
These dumb responses yall give translate to: "anything beyond my small set of beliefs is a cOnSPiRAcY tHeORy"
Bevo cited THE NEW YORK TIMES...one of the most liberal shitrags in the country. I just cited WaPO lol
Completely Laughable
I respond to the posts here. All you have done is speak like a thirteen year old, calling people libtards and dumbth, while providing no substance yourself. And remember, I am a “libtard” because I think the president’s speech on Jan 6th was irresponsible and a disgrace, and he absolutely influenced the crowd. And the smart ones people are asking whether it could be an inside job by the FBI. Holy shit…. Too much internet for you today grandpa, go reminisce about football from 3 decades ago instead.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 7, 2023 0:03:30 GMT
some people just don't understand the world around them anymore. Eternally lost in the weeds, behind the curve
Have you ever posted anything substantial on this board?
Thoughts on Ukraine? BRICS? origin of the (scamdemic) virus? the border? the World Economic Forum? the economy? human trafficking? CISA? Taiwan?
The leftists on this board resort to "Orange Man Bad" when they get pushed into a corner and can't adequately explain their position
These dumb responses yall give translate to: "anything beyond my small set of beliefs is a cOnSPiRAcY tHeORy"
Bevo cited THE NEW YORK TIMES...one of the most liberal shitrags in the country. I just cited WaPO lol
Completely Laughable
I respond to the posts here. All you have done is speak like a thirteen year old, calling people libtards and dumbth, while providing no substance yourself. And remember, I am a “libtard” because I think the president’s speech on Jan 6th was irresponsible and a disgrace, and he absolutely influenced the crowd. And the smart ones people are asking whether it could be an inside job by the FBI. Holy shit…. Too much internet for you today grandpa, go reminisce about football from 3 decades ago instead. Have you ever posted anything substantial on this board? Thoughts on Ukraine? BRICS? origin of the (scamdemic) virus? the border? the World Economic Forum? the economy? human trafficking? CISA? Taiwan? Well that certainly is not going to happen. By the way lets not forget about the ware on energy.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 7, 2023 14:06:07 GMT
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Post by Bevo on Jul 7, 2023 14:51:15 GMT
I know it's hard, Hen. But, please try to keep track of who posts what in a given thread line. I didn't say "what attack"? That was EV. I suggested that the government knew ahead of time what was coming, or at the very least, knew there was a risk of escalation. And yet, they did virtually nothing to stop it. I asked you why? I saw the attack... it didn't seem to be terribly well coordinated. It certainly didn't rise to the level of insurrection. I saw video of guy, who is almost certainly a federal agent of some sort, calling for people to ENTER the capital the day before the riot.. and he was on video on Jan 6 helping assist people who were going in. Why is he the ONLY person who hasn't been prosecuted? What's that all about? I saw several Federal buildings attacked in 2020. Some taken over temporarily... some burned. I didn't see ANY of those labeled as an "insurrection"... and very few of the people who did it were punished. Now, I'm about 90% sure you've been hacked by AF. I might start checking the Virginia obits. You have answered your own question. There wasn’t coordination. At best a handful saying stupid things but no real plan. There was nothing pre planned to stop. It was a crowd that got excited by the president and it escalated. The president was irresponsible that day and anyone who has two brain cells would simply be embarrassed by his actions that day. So, we agree that there was no “insurrection”. Do we agree that it’s also irresponsible for the Democrats and media to keep calling it and treating it as such? I think the hype has been purely for political purpose, and it was likely effective at limiting the electoral damage in 2022. I believe the people caught up in that mess have been excessively punished. Anyone who actually caused physical harm or damage should be punished, for sure. But I believe the punishment should be in-line with what was given during the multitude of riots that impacted the country, and government building in 2020. They have not. And, how did we manage to get four conspiracy convictions if there was no conspiracy? It’s a puzzle? And, even if there was no conspiracy, with 40 embedded informants, we HAD to know there was high potential for things to get out of hand. Why was security not significantly increased? Requests to do so were denied. And one other thing that I’ve always wondered: Why would an ARMED security force just give way to an unarmed mob? They capitulated pretty quick. I guess, in the end… they made the right call. They must have correctly assessed that this highly patriotic crowd would not be a physical threat to the Democracy. If there was a real threat, they should have used their arms to defend at all cost. It was a sad day. On that, I think we all agree. I don’t think there was anything wrong with Trump calling for a protest. It was important for his supporters to show: we KNOW the election was bogus. If that kind of crap continues, expect worse.
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Post by aufan on Jul 7, 2023 20:26:02 GMT
You have answered your own question. There wasn’t coordination. At best a handful saying stupid things but no real plan. There was nothing pre planned to stop. It was a crowd that got excited by the president and it escalated. The president was irresponsible that day and anyone who has two brain cells would simply be embarrassed by his actions that day. So, we agree that there was no “insurrection”. Do we agree that it’s also irresponsible for the Democrats and media to keep calling it and treating it as such? I think the hype has been purely for political purpose, and it was likely effective at limiting the electoral damage in 2022. I believe the people caught up in that mess have been excessively punished. Anyone who actually caused physical harm or damage should be punished, for sure. But I believe the punishment should be in-line with what was given during the multitude of riots that impacted the country, and government building in 2020. They have not. And, how did we manage to get four conspiracy convictions if there was no conspiracy? It’s a puzzle? And, even if there was no conspiracy, with 40 embedded informants, we HAD to know there was high potential for things to get out of hand. Why was security not significantly increased? Requests to do so were denied. And one other thing that I’ve always wondered: Why would an ARMED security force just give way to an unarmed mob? They capitulated pretty quick. I guess, in the end… they made the right call. They must have correctly assessed that this highly patriotic crowd would not be a physical threat to the Democracy. If there was a real threat, they should have used their arms to defend at all cost. It was a sad day. On that, I think we all agree. I don’t think there was anything wrong with Trump calling for a protest. It was important for his supporters to show: we KNOW the election was bogus. If that kind of crap continues, expect worse. The word insurrection is a perfect word for what happened. It was a violent uprising against government. They were told to go right to stop the stealing of the election, and rioted at the building where the election was being confirmed. This is cut and dry Bevo. Don’t go off to the far right like tiger and vodka, where reason doesn’t even exist.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 8, 2023 1:14:53 GMT
He's over the cliff, aufan, no hope.
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Post by Bevo on Jul 8, 2023 13:23:39 GMT
So, we agree that there was no “insurrection”. Do we agree that it’s also irresponsible for the Democrats and media to keep calling it and treating it as such? I think the hype has been purely for political purpose, and it was likely effective at limiting the electoral damage in 2022. I believe the people caught up in that mess have been excessively punished. Anyone who actually caused physical harm or damage should be punished, for sure. But I believe the punishment should be in-line with what was given during the multitude of riots that impacted the country, and government building in 2020. They have not. And, how did we manage to get four conspiracy convictions if there was no conspiracy? It’s a puzzle? And, even if there was no conspiracy, with 40 embedded informants, we HAD to know there was high potential for things to get out of hand. Why was security not significantly increased? Requests to do so were denied. And one other thing that I’ve always wondered: Why would an ARMED security force just give way to an unarmed mob? They capitulated pretty quick. I guess, in the end… they made the right call. They must have correctly assessed that this highly patriotic crowd would not be a physical threat to the Democracy. If there was a real threat, they should have used their arms to defend at all cost. It was a sad day. On that, I think we all agree. I don’t think there was anything wrong with Trump calling for a protest. It was important for his supporters to show: we KNOW the election was bogus. If that kind of crap continues, expect worse. The word insurrection is a perfect word for what happened. It was a violent uprising against government. They were told to go right to stop the stealing of the election, and rioted at the building where the election was being confirmed. This is cut and dry Bevo. Don’t go off to the far right like tiger and vodka, where reason doesn’t even exist. From the Cambridge Dictionary insurrection an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence:You said, just a few posts ago... "There wasn’t coordination. At best a handful saying stupid things but no real plan. It was a crowd that got excited by the president and it escalated." I think you had it right the first time. What kind of idiots think they're going to take over the United States government with flagpoles as weapons? This wasn't a coordinated attempt to take control. It was a protest that devolved into a riot that ended with a 'mostly peaceful' walkthrough of the capital. There have been a LOT of protest against governmental actions that get out of control. Some have even ended up inside the capital. We've never referred to any of them as "insurrections". The left has intentionally mischaracterized it as an "insurrection" for two reasons: 1) To scare their voters into action, and 2) To try to use legal means to keep Trump from running again.
I just "keep it real". Some people can't.
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