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Post by bluehen on Oct 26, 2023 0:16:54 GMT
trumpy's custom appointed SCOTUS, about 55 regional and district courts, (many with trumpy appointed judges) and trumpy's own US Attorney General all say his big stolen election lie is pure bullshit . How can these people be so stupid ?......and how do these fringe right conspiracy media outlets get away with perpetuating the 'sore loser' bullshit and more importantly instruct the trumpy cult sheep/worshipers how to think ?
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Post by SCFan on Oct 26, 2023 1:03:34 GMT
...How can these people be so stupid ?... At this point they believe they have no choice. They are all in. They can't admit their ignorance. That would be too embarrassing! So they double-down. Then something new comes to light that makes you think they may finally realize that they were duped. But they never let us down. They can behave even dumber. It's almost beautiful in a way. Many even willingly continue to give the "billionaire" money! Idiocracy BAY-BEE! They post among us!
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Post by ajbuckeye on Oct 26, 2023 1:04:12 GMT
So your common sense tells you that the many of people videod who were dropping in the range of 20 ballots at 4 AM in the morning were just people dropping off ballots for their family members? I don’t know whose ballots they were dropping off, but it was not illegal to drop off multiple ballots. Family members are an included example, including cousins and in laws. Georgia law also included prison employees dropping off ballots for prisoners, a completely legal and expected reason for one person to drop off dozens of ballots. www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-10-ballot-collection-lawsDid your “documentary” inform you of this? I find it hilarious you tried to insult me by assuming what news I consume, when you are clearly misinformed. This documentary's primary focus was on the mules. To be deemed a mule you had to visit at least 10 drop boxes and visit a minimum of 5 non profits. Non of the data collected regarding the mules and there proximity to the drop boxes and non profits has ever been disputed. Video of the hundreds of people dropping off ballots (in some cases a bag full of ballots) has not been disputed. How many people do you truly believe that showed up at 3 AM with a bag full ballots were dropping them off for their family members?
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Post by aufan on Oct 26, 2023 1:22:31 GMT
I don’t know whose ballots they were dropping off, but it was not illegal to drop off multiple ballots. Family members are an included example, including cousins and in laws. Georgia law also included prison employees dropping off ballots for prisoners, a completely legal and expected reason for one person to drop off dozens of ballots. www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-10-ballot-collection-lawsDid your “documentary” inform you of this? I find it hilarious you tried to insult me by assuming what news I consume, when you are clearly misinformed. This documentary's primary focus was on the mules. To be deemed a mule you had to visit at least 10 drop boxes and visit a minimum of 5 non profits. Non of the data collected regarding the mules and there proximity to the drop boxes and non profits has ever been disputed. Video of the hundreds of people dropping off ballots (in some cases a bag full of ballots) has not been disputed. How many people do you truly believe that showed up at 3 AM with a bag full ballots were dropping them off for their family members?
I agree, the "documentary" is about mules, but shows zero video evidence of mules. You can't answer why there is no video evidence of a mule. They have zero video evidence of a mule visiting two drop boxes, let alone ten.
Since you can't answer why the "documentary" has zero evidence of these mules based on their own criteria, you instead lie about it being illegal to drop multiple ballots.
Did you know it was legal to drop off multiple ballots in Georgia? If so, why did you lie about it? If not, why are you commenting while being so misinformed?
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Post by ajbuckeye on Oct 26, 2023 13:37:09 GMT
I don’t know whose ballots they were dropping off, but it was not illegal to drop off multiple ballots. Family members are an included example, including cousins and in laws. Georgia law also included prison employees dropping off ballots for prisoners, a completely legal and expected reason for one person to drop off dozens of ballots. www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/table-10-ballot-collection-lawsDid your “documentary” inform you of this? I find it hilarious you tried to insult me by assuming what news I consume, when you are clearly misinformed. This documentary's primary focus was on the mules. To be deemed a mule you had to visit at least 10 drop boxes and visit a minimum of 5 non profits. Non of the data collected regarding the mules and there proximity to the drop boxes and non profits has ever been disputed. Video of the hundreds of people dropping off ballots (in some cases a bag full of ballots) has not been disputed. How many people do you truly believe that showed up at 3 AM with a bag full ballots were dropping them off for their family members? Yes I am aware that ballots can be dropped off by immediate family. Do you really believe that the many people in the video's in the wee hours of the night that were dropping off over 20+ ballots were doing it on their family's behalf? Again, this movie has some much compelling data and non of it has been debunked. Yet you only focus on how we did not see the same person at the multiple ballot boxes that were dropping them off in the wee hours of the night with masks on.
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Post by aufan on Oct 26, 2023 13:56:45 GMT
This documentary's primary focus was on the mules. To be deemed a mule you had to visit at least 10 drop boxes and visit a minimum of 5 non profits. Non of the data collected regarding the mules and there proximity to the drop boxes and non profits has ever been disputed. Video of the hundreds of people dropping off ballots (in some cases a bag full of ballots) has not been disputed. How many people do you truly believe that showed up at 3 AM with a bag full ballots were dropping them off for their family members? Yes I am aware that ballots can be dropped off by immediate family. Then why did you lie and say it was illegal unless they petitioned to cast a ballot for someone else?
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Post by bluehen on Oct 26, 2023 20:44:32 GMT
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Post by Bevo on Oct 27, 2023 1:26:00 GMT
trumpy's custom appointed SCOTUS, about 55 regional and district courts, (many with trumpy appointed judges) and trumpy's own US Attorney General all say his big stolen election lie is pure bullshit . How can these people be so stupid ?......and how do these fringe right conspiracy media outlets get away with perpetuating the 'sore loser' bullshit and more importantly instruct the trumpy cult sheep/worshipers how to think ? Hen, you guys can crow all you want... but, the PEOPLE KNOW what is going on. "Seventy-two percent (72%) of Democrats believe it’s likely the 2016 election outcome was changed by Russian interference, but that opinion is shared by only 30% of Republicans and 39% of voters not affiliated with either major party."www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/april_2022/democrats_still_believe_russia_changed_2016_election
Seventy percent (70%) of GOP voters say mail-in voting led to unprecedented fraud in the 2020 election, as do 11% of Democrats and 46% of voters not affiliated with either major party.www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/most_gop_voters_still_don_t_think_biden_was_elected_fairlyPEOPLE, no longer have FAITH that elections are honest and fair... and, for good reason. No one believes a corrupt mental midget, hiding in his basement, unable to draw 100 people to a public appearance garnered 81 Million votes (my ASS!) to beat a President who had been largely successful. It just makes no sense. You CANNOT run a Democracy for long when 70+% of the losers believe they were cheated.
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Post by aufan on Oct 27, 2023 8:35:03 GMT
trumpy's custom appointed SCOTUS, about 55 regional and district courts, (many with trumpy appointed judges) and trumpy's own US Attorney General all say his big stolen election lie is pure bullshit . How can these people be so stupid ?......and how do these fringe right conspiracy media outlets get away with perpetuating the 'sore loser' bullshit and more importantly instruct the trumpy cult sheep/worshipers how to think ? Hen, you guys can crow all you want... but, the PEOPLE KNOW what is going on. "Seventy-two percent (72%) of Democrats believe it’s likely the 2016 election outcome was changed by Russian interference, but that opinion is shared by only 30% of Republicans and 39% of voters not affiliated with either major party."www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/april_2022/democrats_still_believe_russia_changed_2016_election
Seventy percent (70%) of GOP voters say mail-in voting led to unprecedented fraud in the 2020 election, as do 11% of Democrats and 46% of voters not affiliated with either major party.www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/most_gop_voters_still_don_t_think_biden_was_elected_fairlyPEOPLE, no longer have FAITH that elections are honest and fair... and, for good reason. No one believes a corrupt mental midget, hiding in his basement, unable to draw 100 people to a public appearance garnered 81 Million votes (my ASS!) to beat a President who had been largely successful. It just makes no sense. You CANNOT run a Democracy for long when 70+% of the losers believe they were cheated. What a horrible comparison, but does highlight how misinformed republicans are. 70% of republicans believe the elections were literally rigged, meaning fraudulent votes were cast that changed the outcome. This has no evidence. 72% of democrats believe that the elections were influenced by Russia, meaning Russia propaganda and actions influenced the opinion of voters. This has plenty of evidence. Equating those two groups as both having no faith in elections is false, and only serves to make you feel better about the disonnance of doubting the election while also trying to be a reasonable and logical person. Both sides are not the same. Both sides do not doubt the integrity of the election process. The people who have no faith in elections are the brainwashed group who will believe something despite no evidence. This group will blatantly lie and ignore facts, like ajbuckeye in this thread, because their faith that the election was stolen is stronger than their reasoning skills.
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Post by tigercpa on Oct 27, 2023 14:30:26 GMT
What a horrible comparison, but does highlight how misinformed republicans are. 70% of republicans believe the elections were literally rigged, meaning fraudulent votes were cast that changed the outcome. This has no evidence. 72% of democrats believe that the elections were influenced by Russia, meaning Russia propaganda and actions influenced the opinion of voters. This has plenty of evidence. Equating those two groups as both having no faith in elections is false, and only serves to make you feel better about the disonnance of doubting the election while also trying to be a reasonable and logical person. Both sides are not the same. Both sides do not doubt the integrity of the election process. The people who have no faith in elections are the brainwashed group who will believe something despite no evidence. This group will blatantly lie and ignore facts, like ajbuckeye in this thread, because their faith that the election was stolen is stronger than their reasoning skills. Nonsense. Meager Russian "influence" (a few Russian trolls, in actuality) had little to no effect on the 2016 election, and certainly not "outcome changing" influence. To believe this overhyped media malfeasance is just sheer ignorance. The Washington Post, and other left-wing outlets analyzed this and found that Russian influence reached very few actual voters, and the ones it did reach were staunchly republican and were already set on whom they were voting for in the election. Studies concluded that most of the content was just "crude and silly".
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Post by aufan on Oct 27, 2023 16:19:31 GMT
What a horrible comparison, but does highlight how misinformed republicans are. 70% of republicans believe the elections were literally rigged, meaning fraudulent votes were cast that changed the outcome. This has no evidence. 72% of democrats believe that the elections were influenced by Russia, meaning Russia propaganda and actions influenced the opinion of voters. This has plenty of evidence. Equating those two groups as both having no faith in elections is false, and only serves to make you feel better about the disonnance of doubting the election while also trying to be a reasonable and logical person. Both sides are not the same. Both sides do not doubt the integrity of the election process. The people who have no faith in elections are the brainwashed group who will believe something despite no evidence. This group will blatantly lie and ignore facts, like ajbuckeye in this thread, because their faith that the election was stolen is stronger than their reasoning skills. Nonsense. Meager Russian "influence" (a few Russian trolls, in actuality) had little to no effect on the 2016 election, and certainly not "outcome changing" influence. To believe this overhyped media malfeasance is just sheer ignorance. The Washington Post, and other left-wing outlets analyzed this and found that Russian influence reached very few actual voters, and the ones it did reach were staunchly republican and were already set on whom they were voting for in the election. Studies concluded that most of the content was just "crude and silly". I wasn’t debating the impact. I was debating the evidence. There was clear evidence of Russia interference in 2016. There was no evidence of fraudulent elections in 2020 as republicans describe. Bevo is essentially claiming that it is acceptable to be a brainwashed Republican, because democrats are brainwashed too. It’s a bad faith argument, because one side has evidence and facts, and the other side has faith.
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Post by tigercpa on Oct 29, 2023 14:20:52 GMT
trumpy's custom appointed SCOTUS, about 55 regional and district courts, (many with trumpy appointed judges) and trumpy's own US Attorney General all say his big stolen election lie is pure bullshit . How can these people be so stupid ?......and how do these fringe right conspiracy media outlets get away with perpetuating the 'sore loser' bullshit and more importantly instruct the trumpy cult sheep/worshipers how to think ? Actually, they didn't. This is just another example of media malfeasance / talking points that was allowed to go unchecked by the "fact-checkers". Despite the media lie that there were 60 cases and trump/GOP lost them all, there were 92 such lawsuits filed on the 2020 election integrity. Of the 92 cases reviewed, only 30 were decided on actual merits of the case, and guess what? 22 of them (73%) were decided in trump's favor. 60 of the remaining 62 cases never got a chance to present evidence, being dismissed largely for procedural issues. The other bullshit refrain is there was no "massive fraud" Remember, Biden won narrowly in swing states, it didn;t require massive fraud, just a weakening on internal controls over election integrity. Of course, there's the issue of the Zuckerboxes (see 2000 Mules), where mules illicitly dumped massive amounts of ballots (way beyond what normal people would consider reasonable, i.e., a family member). Some mules visited drop boxes every night in Georgia...from the boxes to Stacey Abrams HQ and then back to the boxes. Many states have now decided that privately funded drop boxes were illegal and have subsequently outlawed. Like the NCAA, too little, too late. Now, it is debatable whether any particular lawsuit would have changed the outcome, but the salient point here is that the 2020 election was riddled with flaws and was not a democratic process since it did not basic election fundamentals and controls. to say otherwise is to ignore basic reality.
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Post by aufan on Oct 29, 2023 20:56:52 GMT
trumpy's custom appointed SCOTUS, about 55 regional and district courts, (many with trumpy appointed judges) and trumpy's own US Attorney General all say his big stolen election lie is pure bullshit . How can these people be so stupid ?......and how do these fringe right conspiracy media outlets get away with perpetuating the 'sore loser' bullshit and more importantly instruct the trumpy cult sheep/worshipers how to think ? Actually, they didn't. This is just another example of media malfeasance / talking points that was allowed to go unchecked by the "fact-checkers". Despite the media lie that there were 60 cases and trump/GOP lost them all, there were 92 such lawsuits filed on the 2020 election integrity. Of the 92 cases reviewed, only 30 were decided on actual merits of the case, and guess what? 22 of them (73%) were decided in trump's favor. 60 of the remaining 62 cases never got a chance to present evidence, being dismissed largely for procedural issues. The other bullshit refrain is there was no "massive fraud" Remember, Biden won narrowly in swing states, it didn;t require massive fraud, just a weakening on internal controls over election integrity. Of course, there's the issue of the Zuckerboxes (see 2000 Mules), where mules illicitly dumped massive amounts of ballots (way beyond what normal people would consider reasonable, i.e., a family member). Some mules visited drop boxes every night in Georgia...from the boxes to Stacey Abrams HQ and then back to the boxes. Many states have now decided that privately funded drop boxes were illegal and have subsequently outlawed. Like the NCAA, too little, too late. Now, it is debatable whether any particular lawsuit would have changed the outcome, but the salient point here is that the 2020 election was riddled with flaws and was not a democratic process since it did not basic election fundamentals and controls. to say otherwise is to ignore basic reality. I see you are repeating the lies ajbuckeye did about 2000 mules. At least when I called him out for lying, he had the decency to stop.
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Post by aufan on Oct 29, 2023 21:16:22 GMT
trumpy's custom appointed SCOTUS, about 55 regional and district courts, (many with trumpy appointed judges) and trumpy's own US Attorney General all say his big stolen election lie is pure bullshit . How can these people be so stupid ?......and how do these fringe right conspiracy media outlets get away with perpetuating the 'sore loser' bullshit and more importantly instruct the trumpy cult sheep/worshipers how to think ? Actually, they didn't. This is just another example of media malfeasance / talking points that was allowed to go unchecked by the "fact-checkers". Despite the media lie that there were 60 cases and trump/GOP lost them all, there were 92 such lawsuits filed on the 2020 election integrity. Of the 92 cases reviewed, only 30 were decided on actual merits of the case, and guess what? 22 of them (73%) were decided in trump's favor. 60 of the remaining 62 cases never got a chance to present evidence, being dismissed largely for procedural issues. The other bullshit refrain is there was no "massive fraud" Remember, Biden won narrowly in swing states, it didn;t require massive fraud, just a weakening on internal controls over election integrity. Of course, there's the issue of the Zuckerboxes (see 2000 Mules), where mules illicitly dumped massive amounts of ballots (way beyond what normal people would consider reasonable, i.e., a family member). Some mules visited drop boxes every night in Georgia...from the boxes to Stacey Abrams HQ and then back to the boxes. Many states have now decided that privately funded drop boxes were illegal and have subsequently outlawed. Like the NCAA, too little, too late. Now, it is debatable whether any particular lawsuit would have changed the outcome, but the salient point here is that the 2020 election was riddled with flaws and was not a democratic process since it did not basic election fundamentals and controls. to say otherwise is to ignore basic reality. Oh never mind, you are just copying from Twitter. What’s even sadder is that you aren’t just linking the tweet, but plagiarizing it by changing a few words here and there. x.com/kylenabecker/status/1718282424767959428?s=20And I’m the one who gets called a bot. Lol
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Post by tigercpa on Oct 30, 2023 14:17:27 GMT
Actually, they didn't. This is just another example of media malfeasance / talking points that was allowed to go unchecked by the "fact-checkers". Despite the media lie that there were 60 cases and trump/GOP lost them all, there were 92 such lawsuits filed on the 2020 election integrity. Of the 92 cases reviewed, only 30 were decided on actual merits of the case, and guess what? 22 of them (73%) were decided in trump's favor. 60 of the remaining 62 cases never got a chance to present evidence, being dismissed largely for procedural issues. The other bullshit refrain is there was no "massive fraud" Remember, Biden won narrowly in swing states, it didn;t require massive fraud, just a weakening on internal controls over election integrity. Of course, there's the issue of the Zuckerboxes (see 2000 Mules), where mules illicitly dumped massive amounts of ballots (way beyond what normal people would consider reasonable, i.e., a family member). Some mules visited drop boxes every night in Georgia...from the boxes to Stacey Abrams HQ and then back to the boxes. Many states have now decided that privately funded drop boxes were illegal and have subsequently outlawed. Like the NCAA, too little, too late. Now, it is debatable whether any particular lawsuit would have changed the outcome, but the salient point here is that the 2020 election was riddled with flaws and was not a democratic process since it did not basic election fundamentals and controls. to say otherwise is to ignore basic reality. Oh never mind, you are just copying from Twitter. What’s even sadder is that you aren’t just linking the tweet, but plagiarizing it by changing a few words here and there. x.com/kylenabecker/status/1718282424767959428?s=20And I’m the one who gets called a bot. Lol 60% of the time, it works every time. You bit the hook, but back to actual content. So now 65% of Americans believe the election was fraudulent. So do roughly 35% of Dems. After the halted counting, mail batches that were posted that contained 90%, some 96% and 99% for one candidate. And people just said, "yeah, nothing to see here". Especially in cities / counties known for voter "irregularities". How much more evidence is needed to show that these elections weren't "free and fair" and of the "highest security"?
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