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Post by bluehen on Jan 10, 2024 16:57:13 GMT
....and they vote and breed and worship their orange deity and are heavily armed and prone to ignorance driven hate and violence.
.....just a little fun, boys
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 10, 2024 18:05:09 GMT
Cuts both ways
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Post by bluehen on Jan 10, 2024 18:22:31 GMT
but nowhere near 50-50, cpa....maybe 90/10 in today's hateful political climate
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 10, 2024 19:08:32 GMT
but nowhere near 50-50, cpa....maybe 90/10 in today's hateful political climate I'd say the hate is 50/50. Both parties enjoy the lesser informed.
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Post by bluehen on Jan 10, 2024 20:25:08 GMT
I didn't mean 90/10 for hate but 90/10 for which way the 'incestors' lean
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Post by EvilVodka on Mar 2, 2024 0:27:29 GMT
but nowhere near 50-50, cpa....maybe 90/10 in today's hateful political climate I would agree, it could possibly be 90/10
But its not the demographics you think...
who do you think every worker that got fired for not taking the Vax will vote for? who do you think families of people who have gotten killed by illegal immigrants will vote for? Will millennials that can't afford housing vote blue? Will lower income workers that can't keep up with rising costs keep voting blue?
What the hell is the Democrat platform now anyways?
Open border and Send more money to Ukraine?
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Post by aufan on Mar 2, 2024 9:22:35 GMT
but nowhere near 50-50, cpa....maybe 90/10 in today's hateful political climate I would agree, it could possibly be 90/10 But its not the demographics you think... who do you think every worker that got fired for not taking the Vax will vote for? who do you think families of people who have gotten killed by illegal immigrants will vote for? Will millennials that can't afford housing vote blue? Will lower income workers that can't keep up with rising costs keep voting blue? What the hell is the Democrat platform now anyways? Open border and Send more money to Ukraine?
People not willing to get vaccinated were already heavily weighted toward republicans.
Some small percent of people not vaccinated have quit or been fired from their job because of it? This is a small portion of people, and one already heavily weighted toward republicans.
There were less than 20,000 homicides total in 2023. At least one study shows illegal immigrants have a lower murder conviction rate than native born Americans (https://www.cato.org/blog/illegal-immigrants-have-low-homicide-conviction-rate-setting-record-straight-illegal-immigrant) The amount of people this affects, much less would make switch from democrat to republican, is tiny. I think that more people will be influenced by the fact that republicans blocked the border bill.
I don't see republicans suggesting anything to help the working class.
Inflation is better in the US compared to the rest of the world. Anyone ignorant enough to blame Biden for inflation was never going to vote democrat in the first place.
Democrats at least have the pretense of helping the working class. Meanwhile republicans are doing nothing but obstructing - except to diminish people's health and freedoms. The only thing republicans actually care about are embryos. This has already shifted voting demographics and republicans will continue to lose elections.
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Post by Vodka on Mar 2, 2024 13:06:35 GMT
I would agree, it could possibly be 90/10 But its not the demographics you think... who do you think every worker that got fired for not taking the Vax will vote for? who do you think families of people who have gotten killed by illegal immigrants will vote for? Will millennials that can't afford housing vote blue? Will lower income workers that can't keep up with rising costs keep voting blue? What the hell is the Democrat platform now anyways? Open border and Send more money to Ukraine?
People not willing to get vaccinated were already heavily weighted toward republicans.
Some small percent of people not vaccinated have quit or been fired from their job because of it? This is a small portion of people, and one already heavily weighted toward republicans.
So...aufan...at what point do you realize that you aren't really free, and that everything you've been taught about this being a free country is in fact bullshit? Is it when you get fired for not injecting an experimental mRNA medical technology/gene therapy ("vaccine" for stupid people) when your state website shows a mortality rate under 1%?
But I digress...
the sources you linked are old, and pretty much written still in the thick of the scamdemic. I mean, Galston looks like an old liberal fossil, and I'd say his article still has an undertone of seriousness about Covid, much of which has drifted away in the wind a few years later.
The articles do show how willing and gullible the left was in accepting medical treatment though. No questioning or pushback at all; instead they thought they stood on a higher moral ground, and were much more intelligent for "trusting the science" (of course, that's not actually how science works).
And we also know the mandate was struck down by the Supreme Court...because a President just declaring a "mandate" using OSHA can be perceived as massive government overreach
Here is a better article on the Covid Saga, which has not ended despite the media and government focusing on other issues like Ukraine. The after-effects are still incoming. This article is from 3 days ago:
It has some interesting points:
"The stated purpose of the mandates was to increase vaccination rates among these workers to ensure the continuity of public services. In reality, the mandates had limited effect on increasing vaccine uptake. But they had a substantive negative effect on the employment, earnings and wellbeing of unvaccinated health workers."
"A consequence of vaccine mandates is that they can erode trust in government and provoke more resistance. This erosion of trust could potentially strengthen anti-vaccination sentiment generally and reduce uptake, not just of COVID-19 vaccinations, but also other vaccines."
"During the COVID-19 pandemic, a strong motivator for vaccination was the “feel-good” factor of knowing you were protecting yourself and others. Ironically, the increase in distrust that resulted from the use of mandates in the COVID-19 pandemic may actually lower voluntary vaccine uptake in future pandemics."
Now how does this equate to registered voters? I wouldn't base the answer on a "small portion of people" cited by CNBC, because its still a BIG ISSUE with alot of people, all over the world. Just this week, "Queensland Supreme Court Justice Glenn Martin declared the state's COVID vaccine mandate for police officers was unlawful."
It's not over by any means. Well, maybe the actual fake scamdemic part...
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Post by EvilVodka on Mar 2, 2024 13:20:28 GMT
I would agree, it could possibly be 90/10 But its not the demographics you think... who do you think every worker that got fired for not taking the Vax will vote for? who do you think families of people who have gotten killed by illegal immigrants will vote for? Will millennials that can't afford housing vote blue? Will lower income workers that can't keep up with rising costs keep voting blue? What the hell is the Democrat platform now anyways? Open border and Send more money to Ukraine?
Democrats at least have the pretense of helping the working class.
Meanwhile republicans are doing nothing but obstructing - except to diminish people's health and freedoms.
oh man, bahahahaha
this is a hilariously bad take aufan. this is why no one on this board takes you seriously...
That is some thick spiked kool-aid right there. Jim Jones would give you a gold star. Even Goebbels would be impressed.
Is it a typo? maybe you meant to say "Democrats at least have the pretense of helping...Ukraine? Zelensky? Illegal immigrants? Globalists?"
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I do agree though, most Republicans aren't doing a damn thing. That's why they are called RHINOS.
So following this logically (as if it were computer code), IF Democrats SUPPORT the establishment... AND Republicans are doing nothing... Where do voters who are completely dissatisfied with the whole system go?
----> Trump
Like I said in another post, if Trump is so terrible, he should be easy to beat. Why can't the Democrats put forth an anti-establishment candidate?
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Post by EvilVodka on Mar 2, 2024 14:13:14 GMT
People not willing to get vaccinated were already heavily weighted toward republicans.
Some small percent of people not vaccinated have quit or been fired from their job because of it? This is a small portion of people, and one already heavily weighted toward republicans.
So...aufan...at what point do you realize that you aren't really free, and that everything you've been taught about this being a free country is in fact bullshit? Is it when you get fired for not injecting an experimental mRNA medical technology/gene therapy ("vaccine" for stupid people) when your state website shows a mortality rate under 1%?
But I digress...
the sources you linked are old, and pretty much written still in the thick of the scamdemic. I mean, Galston looks like an old liberal fossil, and I'd say his article still has an undertone of seriousness about Covid, much of which has drifted away in the wind a few years later.
The articles do show how willing and gullible the left was in accepting medical treatment though. No questioning or pushback at all; instead they thought they stood on a higher moral ground, and were much more intelligent for "trusting the science" (of course, that's not actually how science works).
And we also know the mandate was struck down by the Supreme Court...because a President just declaring a "mandate" using OSHA can be perceived as massive government overreach
Here is a better article on the Covid Saga, which has not ended despite the media and government focusing on other issues like Ukraine. The after-effects are still incoming. This article is from 3 days ago:
It has some interesting points:
"The stated purpose of the mandates was to increase vaccination rates among these workers to ensure the continuity of public services. In reality, the mandates had limited effect on increasing vaccine uptake. But they had a substantive negative effect on the employment, earnings and wellbeing of unvaccinated health workers."
"A consequence of vaccine mandates is that they can erode trust in government and provoke more resistance. This erosion of trust could potentially strengthen anti-vaccination sentiment generally and reduce uptake, not just of COVID-19 vaccinations, but also other vaccines."
"During the COVID-19 pandemic, a strong motivator for vaccination was the “feel-good” factor of knowing you were protecting yourself and others. Ironically, the increase in distrust that resulted from the use of mandates in the COVID-19 pandemic may actually lower voluntary vaccine uptake in future pandemics."
Now how does this equate to registered voters? I wouldn't base the answer on a "small portion of people" cited by CNBC, because its still a BIG ISSUE with alot of people, all over the world. Just this week, "Queensland Supreme Court Justice Glenn Martin declared the state's COVID vaccine mandate for police officers was unlawful."
It's not over by any means. Well, maybe the actual fake scamdemic part...
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Post by EvilVodka on Mar 2, 2024 15:20:40 GMT
So...aufan...at what point do you realize that you aren't really free, and that everything you've been taught about this being a free country is in fact bullshit? Is it when you get fired for not injecting an experimental mRNA medical technology/gene therapy ("vaccine" for stupid people) when your state website shows a mortality rate under 1%?
But I digress...
the sources you linked are old, and pretty much written still in the thick of the scamdemic. I mean, Galston looks like an old liberal fossil, and I'd say his article still has an undertone of seriousness about Covid, much of which has drifted away in the wind a few years later.
The articles do show how willing and gullible the left was in accepting medical treatment though. No questioning or pushback at all; instead they thought they stood on a higher moral ground, and were much more intelligent for "trusting the science" (of course, that's not actually how science works).
And we also know the mandate was struck down by the Supreme Court...because a President just declaring a "mandate" using OSHA can be perceived as massive government overreach
Here is a better article on the Covid Saga, which has not ended despite the media and government focusing on other issues like Ukraine. The after-effects are still incoming. This article is from 3 days ago:
It has some interesting points:
"The stated purpose of the mandates was to increase vaccination rates among these workers to ensure the continuity of public services. In reality, the mandates had limited effect on increasing vaccine uptake. But they had a substantive negative effect on the employment, earnings and wellbeing of unvaccinated health workers."
"A consequence of vaccine mandates is that they can erode trust in government and provoke more resistance. This erosion of trust could potentially strengthen anti-vaccination sentiment generally and reduce uptake, not just of COVID-19 vaccinations, but also other vaccines."
"During the COVID-19 pandemic, a strong motivator for vaccination was the “feel-good” factor of knowing you were protecting yourself and others. Ironically, the increase in distrust that resulted from the use of mandates in the COVID-19 pandemic may actually lower voluntary vaccine uptake in future pandemics."
Now how does this equate to registered voters? I wouldn't base the answer on a "small portion of people" cited by CNBC, because its still a BIG ISSUE with alot of people, all over the world. Just this week, "Queensland Supreme Court Justice Glenn Martin declared the state's COVID vaccine mandate for police officers was unlawful."
It's not over by any means. Well, maybe the actual fake scamdemic part...
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Post by aufan on Mar 2, 2024 15:24:30 GMT
You asked “ who do you think every worker that got fired for not taking the Vax will vote for?”
I pointed out that most people without a vaccine are republicans, and it wasn’t some huge group that got fired for it. In my opinion it is a non-starter for shifting voting demographics.
I didn’t make any comments on vaccine mandates, I think I’m the wrong audience for that.
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Post by EvilVodka on Mar 2, 2024 16:31:46 GMT
You asked “ who do you think every worker that got fired for not taking the Vax will vote for?” I pointed out that most people without a vaccine are republicans, and it wasn’t some huge group that got fired for it. In my opinion it is a non-starter for shifting voting demographics. I didn’t make any comments on vaccine mandates, I think I’m the wrong audience for that. well, I would say your views on voting demographics live in a narrow bandwidth of discussion that doesn't come close to reflecting the realities of the world right now. Outdated sources don't help your arguments; yes, time is moving fast and things are changing fast
I don't see the democrat party gaining voters. IMO, they are bleeding voters
Furthermore, you could say the Republican party is split right now. Essentially we have 3 parties:
--> Establishment Democrat --> Establishment Republican (the RHINO party) --> Anti-Establishment Trump Party
As faith in the federal govt and mainstream media continue to decline, where are these increasing angry voters going? The media and idiots continue to mislabel this movement by calling it "far right", primarily because they don't want to use terms like anti-establishment and anti-globalist
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Post by aufan on Mar 3, 2024 9:29:28 GMT
You asked “ who do you think every worker that got fired for not taking the Vax will vote for?” I pointed out that most people without a vaccine are republicans, and it wasn’t some huge group that got fired for it. In my opinion it is a non-starter for shifting voting demographics. I didn’t make any comments on vaccine mandates, I think I’m the wrong audience for that. well, I would say your views on voting demographics live in a narrow bandwidth of discussion that doesn't come close to reflecting the realities of the world right now. Outdated sources don't help your arguments; yes, time is moving fast and things are changing fast
I don't see the democrat party gaining voters. IMO, they are bleeding voters
Furthermore, you could say the Republican party is split right now. Essentially we have 3 parties:
--> Establishment Democrat --> Establishment Republican (the RHINO party) --> Anti-Establishment Trump Party
As faith in the federal govt and mainstream media continue to decline, where are these increasing angry voters going? The media and idiots continue to mislabel this movement by calling it "far right", primarily because they don't want to use terms like anti-establishment and anti-globalist
I was discounting one of your narrow views, that vaccine mandates will sway voters in any significant way. They were already Republican. In a broader sense, I don’t think there are too many issues that get people to switch sides, but rather more motivated to vote. I will say that I’ve never voted democrat, but I am highly likely to this year. Roe speaks for itself obviously. But more importantly the idea that we could have a president who incited an insurrection while refusing election results could be given immunity by a Supreme Court that he stacked. I may not be a boomer who gets all my opinions from Twitter, but I definitely see those two points as a driver of voter turnout against Trump.
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Post by Guest on Mar 3, 2024 13:34:12 GMT
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