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Post by tigercpa on Jan 7, 2017 1:53:46 GMT
Those are the wrong guys to deliver a "briefing".
Exactly.
Brennan and Clapper are on their way out in two weeks, and Comey may not last much longer. They have no interest in giving Trump any good information. Nor will they lift a finger to help find whoever leaked info to NBC. Heck, it might even be one of them.
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 7, 2017 1:58:36 GMT
The farce is now complete. One week after a joint FBI/DHS report was released, supposedly meant to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Russia intervened in the US presidential election, and thus served as a diplomatic basis for Obama's expulsion of 35 diplomats, yet which merely confirmed that a Ukrainian piece of malware which could be purchased by anyone, was responsible for spoofing various email accounts including that of the DNC and John Podesta, moments ago US intelligence agencies released a more "authoritative", 25-page report, titled "Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections", and which not surprisingly only serves to validate the media narrative, by concluding that Russian President Vladimir Putin 'ordered' an effort to influence U.S. presidential election.
Specifically, the report concludes the following:
What proof is there? Sadly, again, none. Lots of judgments, but no proof.
Every time the IC repackages its same assertions in a new form, media acts like it's been proven, even though it - again - includes no evidence.
Ever consider the possibility that you (and I) cannot be trusted to be informed about classified matters? And that the people who need to be so informed and can be trusted, including Trump, either have been so informed or soon will be? Perhaps you could connive your way into a role in the Trump administration where you will be privy to such classified information. Then, perhaps your overactive imagination could be satisfied. As for me, I have trust and confidence in the Americans, many of whom who are serving in uniform and all of whom have sworn an oath to the Constitution, who have gathered and assessed the intelligence. Your trust and confidence is in an accused rapist who is hiding in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London in order to avoid deportation to Sweden, where he would face criminal prosecution. Both Clapper and Brennan have lied UNDER OATH while testifying before congress.
You know who has never lied to me? Assange.
The Washington Post that has been caught red-handed fabricating Russian-Scare Stories on two occasions in less than three weeks?
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 7, 2017 4:31:35 GMT
Those are the wrong guys to deliver a "briefing". Exactly. Brennan and Clapper are on their way out in two weeks, and Comey may not last much longer. They have no interest in giving Trump any good information. Nor will they lift a finger to help find whoever leaked info to NBC. Heck, it might even be one of them. That is profoundly nuts. All are American patriots, and would give the incoming president the straight intelligence and analysis, regardless of who it is. This isn't Brennan's, Clapper's and Comey's work. It is the cumulative effort of intelligence and investigative professionals across a spectrum of agencies. Some are military personnel. All have sworn an oath to the Constitution. You have just slandered the dedicated Americans who are doing all they can to keep you safe and secure. It is far from the first time you have done so.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 7, 2017 4:35:22 GMT
Ever consider the possibility that you (and I) cannot be trusted to be informed about classified matters? And that the people who need to be so informed and can be trusted, including Trump, either have been so informed or soon will be? Perhaps you could connive your way into a role in the Trump administration where you will be privy to such classified information. Then, perhaps your overactive imagination could be satisfied. As for me, I have trust and confidence in the Americans, many of whom who are serving in uniform and all of whom have sworn an oath to the Constitution, who have gathered and assessed the intelligence. Your trust and confidence is in an accused rapist who is hiding in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London in order to avoid deportation to Sweden, where he would face criminal prosecution. Both Clapper and Brennan have lied UNDER OATH while testifying before congress.
You know who has never lied to me? Assange.
The Washington Post that has been caught red-handed fabricating Russian-Scare Stories on two occasions in less than three weeks?
I really don't know whose side you are on. You continually slander good people, patriotic Americans, and praise and rely upon an anti-American accused rapist.
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Post by Hero on Jan 7, 2017 11:07:28 GMT
Both Clapper and Brennan have lied UNDER OATH while testifying before congress.
You know who has never lied to me? Assange.
The Washington Post that has been caught red-handed fabricating Russian-Scare Stories on two occasions in less than three weeks?
I really don't know whose side you are on. You continually slander good people, patriotic Americans, and praise and rely upon an anti-American accused rapist. Time to give up your love for fake news. Hillary would be ashamed of you. Assange helped reveal the truth. I know liberals feel threatened by such tactics.
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 7, 2017 12:30:24 GMT
I really don't know whose side you are on. You continually slander good people, patriotic Americans, and praise and rely upon an anti-American accused rapist. Time to give up your love for fake news. Hillary would be ashamed of you. Assange helped reveal the truth. I know liberals feel threatened by such tactics. What's scary is how hyped this report was and yet it is simply a repackaging of the previous reports, and still provides no evidence.
My neighbors and some of their colleagues worked in this field since the 90s, some still do (sometimes they go on "vacation" and by vacation they mean a 12 to 14 hour flight to a part of the globe where its really hot and sandy) - they are completely dismissive of this embarrassment. These agencies have been horribly politicized at the executive levels by Obama appointees. Trump will have a lot of house cleaning to do to make these agencies truly effective again.
They tell me its orchestrated propaganda.
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 7, 2017 13:43:28 GMT
LOL, yes and there's nothing inaccurate about that coverage.
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Post by Hero on Jan 7, 2017 13:55:35 GMT
LOL, yes and there's nothing inaccurate about that coverage.
I never gave anybody hell, I just told the truth on'em and they thought it was Hell. Giv'em Hell Harry Truman
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 7, 2017 15:06:42 GMT
LOL, yes and there's nothing inaccurate about that coverage.
I never gave anybody hell, I just told the truth on'em and they thought it was Hell. Giv'em Hell Harry Truman Yes, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, and the Director of CIA, John Brennan, are now blaming “Russia Today (RT)” and “Sputnik News” for “influencing” the United States election.
No, you really can’t make this stuff up. They might as well be blaming Boris and Natasha for undermining the efforts of Rocky and Bullwinkle – damn Russians.
:-)
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Post by Hero on Jan 7, 2017 15:09:34 GMT
I never gave anybody hell, I just told the truth on'em and they thought it was Hell. Giv'em Hell Harry Truman Yes, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, and the Director of CIA, John Brennan, are now blaming “Russia Today (RT)” and “Sputnik News” for “influencing” the United States election.
No, you really can’t make this stuff up. They might as well be blaming Boris and Natasha for undermining the efforts of Rocky and Bullwinkle – damn Russians.
:-)
Herd will be on that bandwagon in a heart beat.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 7, 2017 20:54:49 GMT
As usual, no link.
Not that I really care, one way or another.
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 7, 2017 22:05:04 GMT
As usual, no link. Not that I really care, one way or another. Nope, you don't care...that's why there are 170 pages in this thread and counting.
Putin has had free reign with little opposition from the U.S. during the Obama/Clinton/Kerry regime. Why would Putin want Trump over Hillary?
Oddly enough, there is nothing in the report about the latest narrative change of "go-betweens" linking Putin with Wikileaks, but it has a whole lot of "judgments" on RT... ◦RT’s coverage of Secretary Clinton throughout the US presidential campaign was consistently negative and focused on her leaked e-mails and accused her of corruption, poor physical and mental health, and ties to Islamic extremism. Some Russian officials echoed Russian lines for the influence campaign that Secretary Clinton’s election could lead to a war between the United States and Russia.
◦In August, Kremlin-linked political analysts suggested avenging negative Western reports on Putin by airing segments devoted to Secretary Clinton’s alleged health problems.
◦On 6 August, RT published an English-language video called “Julian Assange Special: Do WikiLeaks Have the E-mail That’ll Put Clinton in Prison?” and an exclusive interview with Assange entitled “Clinton and ISIS Funded by the Same Money.” RT’s most popular video on Secretary Clinton, “How 100% of the Clintons’ ‘Charity’ Went to…Themselves,” had more than 9 million views on social media platforms. RT’s most popular English language video about the President-elect, called “Trump Will Not Be Permitted To Win,” featured Assange and had 2.2 million views.
... and "trolls." And this is where it gets really funny, they blame internet trolls LOL :
◦Russia used trolls as well as RT as part of its influence efforts to denigrate Secretary Clinton. This effort amplified stories on scandals about Secretary Clinton and the role of WikiLeaks in the election campaign.
◦The likely financier of the so-called Internet Research Agency of professional trolls located in Saint Petersburg is a close Putin ally with ties to Russian intelligence.
◦A journalist who is a leading expert on the Internet Research Agency claimed that some social media accounts that appear to be tied to Russia’s professional trolls—because they previously were devoted to supporting Russian actions in Ukraine—started to advocate for President-elect Trump as early as December 2015.
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 8, 2017 0:17:34 GMT
It didn't take much for CNN to fold after Wikileaks threatened to sue it for defamation.
As reported on Wednesday, the whistleblowing organization threatened to sue CNN after the biased, pro-Clinton news organization aired an interview with Phil Mudd, in which the paid analyst and ex-Deputy-Director of the CIA called Julian Assange a pedophile. CNN’s counterterrorism "analyst" made the on-air statement on Wednesday while discussing WikiLeaks. Mudd boldly declared that “there's an effort to protect WikiLeaks (and) a pedophile who lives in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.”
Shortly after the lawsuit threat, CNN promptly apologized for the segment and conceded that “CNN has no evidence to support that assertion."
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 8, 2017 0:52:39 GMT
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 8, 2017 2:28:23 GMT
Still no link.
Typical.
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