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Post by Hero on Mar 5, 2017 17:43:34 GMT
Plausible deniability will always shield OBama. It won't change the facts. People who want to believe OBama is a holy man will continue to believe in the face of all evidence. An exercise in technical lying. Oh, how this swamp needs to be drained.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 5, 2017 19:19:20 GMT
I'm not convinced that either one is telling us the truth.
One thing is evident: Trump doesn't know his history.
McCarthyism was about an overzealous investigation of communists officials and communist influence in the U.S. government. By citing McCarthyism, Trump would be asserting that he is a communist.
Watergate was about an illegal amateurish robbery of the DNC headquarters. Trump might be alleging legal FISA court (FISC) approved surveillance of his campaign office in Trump Towers, which Obama cannot legally order or even seek.
However, Obama's response was full of holes that you could drive a Mack truck through.
The truth will come out -- eventually.
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Post by Hero on Mar 5, 2017 19:30:24 GMT
However, Obama's response was full of holes that you could drive a Mack truck through. The technical lying was evident...agree 100% Some will
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 5, 2017 22:01:20 GMT
However, Obama's response was full of holes that you could drive a Mack truck through. The technical lying was evident...agree 100% Some will I don't have a lot of confidence in Trump's claim either. This is significant enough to warrant a congressional investigation. Let the chips fall where they may.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 5, 2017 22:03:37 GMT
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 5, 2017 23:09:42 GMT
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 5, 2017 23:35:02 GMT
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 6, 2017 1:05:42 GMT
Well, if we can have evidence free Russia stories....not exactly evidence free - the WikiLeaks emails show that the DNC conspired to push the Trump / Russia fake narrative back in April.
Comey, who made the request on Saturday after Mr. Trump leveled his allegation on Twitter, has been working to get the Justice Department to knock down the claim because it falsely insinuates that the F.B.I. broke the law, the officials said. What is strange is that the FBI is requesting the DOJ to publicly deny Trump's claim when it is the FBI that has the jurisdiction to request a FISA warrant. It is therefore perplexing why Comey, if he wants to put the matter to rest, does not make the public denial himself instead of asking the DOJ to do it on the FBI's behalf.
Note in Comey's carefully worded statement, he isn't stating that there was NOT a wiretap, just that it wasn't Obama who ordered it. That might explain why he doesn't want to release ant statement personally (although wiretaps are within FBI jurisdiction) and would prefer DOJ to make the statement so that he could maintain "plausible deniability"?
Is the FBI is about to get caught with their hands in the "wiretapping" cookie jar??
Remember, the AG can order the FBI to wiretap.
Is it that Comey doesn't want to make the statement himself because he doesn't want to get caught committing perjury?
...on behalf of Obama and he's wanting PERSONAL separation from the act of giving false or misleading "evidence" to a FISA court in order to get a wiretap warrant.
He knows that's a felony.
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 6, 2017 1:14:47 GMT
TGP is reporting that Hillary was tipped off about the wiretap and even tweeted about it before the election.
His allegations here:
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/hillary-tipped-off-trump-wiretap-tweeted-one-week-prior-election/
Do we still believe Bill and Loretta were talking about grandchildren on the tarmac?
Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank. pic.twitter.com/8f8n9xMzUU
— Hillary Clinton (@hillaryclinton) November 1, 2016
Computer scientists? LOL. Not even a "senior administration official"....geez...
Levin provides what he believes is proof of wiretap:
youtu.be/S-Kqd5Y9tk0
Not to mention, the NY Times has also admitted there were wiretaps.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 6, 2017 2:36:58 GMT
tigercpa to the rescue! Lol.
Trump's (underpaid) spokesperson was tied up in knots this morning:
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 6, 2017 2:41:02 GMT
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 6, 2017 4:04:09 GMT
tigercpa to the rescue! Lol. Trump's (underpaid) spokesperson was tied up in knots this morning:
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Post by Hero on Mar 6, 2017 10:14:53 GMT
Comey may may be trying to whistle past the graveyard.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 6, 2017 12:24:22 GMT
Anything is possible.
Trump has proved that he cannot be trusted. For one who is supposedly sophisticated and worldly, he has a propensity to fall for obvious scams (fake reporting), such as the birther movement and the supposed 3-5 million illegal aliens voting.
Obama lies and slants the truth for ideological reasons.
I can't begin to fathom what goes on in Comey's mind. It sure seems like he does some things for political purposes. He inexplicably gave Hillary and her campaign an unwarranted reprieve, and then doomed her campaign.
Clapper seems to be a straight up guy.
I am content to wait until this plays out.
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 6, 2017 12:26:22 GMT
tigercpa to the rescue! Lol. Trump's (underpaid) spokesperson was tied up in knots this morning: Trump is in a no-win situation here - his opposition knows he can't discuss intelligence publicly. Meanwhile any Joe Schmoe can run to the TV news and claim anything.
The media and Dems know this and are using it - hoping he will say something and then they will scream for impeachment for releasing classified intelligence.
The accused has a constitutional gag order. See how that works?
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