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Post by Bevo on Aug 7, 2019 19:20:28 GMT
There are "Nut jobs" on either side of the political spectrum, and they can be driven into action by inflammatory rhetoric. We've had an excess of that in recent years, on BOTH sides, but I think primarily on the left. They constantly refer to Trump (and his supporters) as "racist, White Supremacist, Liars, etc...." It's over-the-top insanity, damnable lies, and it needs to stop. However, I doubt that it will.
Additional gun restrictions will do NOTHING to stem this violence. Literally, NOTHING. But, that's all our feckless leader will talk about, because the TRUTHS are too hard to accept.
We have a serious problem with young men in our society. That's where we should focus attempts to stop this. The common thread here is " Young white males on psychotic medicine". And, no... I haven't heard it said these two young men were taking psych drugs, but.... it's a pretty safe bet.
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Post by EvilVodka on Aug 8, 2019 1:33:53 GMT
There are "Nut jobs" on either side of the political spectrum, and they can be driven into action by inflammatory rhetoric. We've had an excess of that in recent years, on BOTH sides, but I think primarily on the left. They constantly refer to Trump (and his supporters) as "racist, White Supremacist, Liars, etc...." It's over-the-top insanity, damnable lies, and it needs to stop. However, I doubt that it will.
Additional gun restrictions will do NOTHING to stem this violence. Literally, NOTHING. But, that's all our feckless leader will talk about, because the TRUTHS are too hard to accept.
We have a serious problem with young men in our society. That's where we should focus attempts to stop this. The common thread here is " Young white males on psychotic medicine". And, no... I haven't heard it said these two young men were taking psych drugs, but.... it's a pretty safe bet.
these social situations and tragedies can be summed up pretty easy A. You have a horrible shooting tragedy B. You have an insane and highly irresponsible govt. propoganda service known as news media is trying to claim wild theories and point blame at certain segments of society C. Kids growing up loaded on psychotic drugs is a great research topic linked to the character of the shooter My biggest probelm is B. The media sucks so bad and is so highly irresponsible that they should start getting fined or shut down. They are literally trying to incite violence by saying white supremecy is a huge thing now...it is fabricated bullshit
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Post by bluehen on Aug 8, 2019 4:19:17 GMT
This is the low point of post Civil War American civility. All starts at the top
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Post by Bevo on Aug 8, 2019 12:42:40 GMT
This is the low point of post Civil War American civility. All starts at the top If it "starts at the top", then it started at the TOP of the Democrat Party and at the TOP of the national news media. George W Bush was as civil, and nice a person as anyone could ever hope for.... he was vilified and lied about, ENDLESSLY, for 8 years. They wrote a book and made a movie about killing him. Routinely showed pictures of him as a chimp. Protested his appearance ANYWHERE he went. He NEVER fought back. Never. He just took it and took it, and let his approval rating drop into the 20's. Same with Mitt Romney.
Trump fights back.
Yesterday was a perfect example of the kind of shit that needs to stop. Trump made PRIVATE visits to the hospitals where survivors are healing. By all accounts, his presence was very well received by the people inside. He was not political with them. Just listening, and showing support with his presence. While doing this, Dem presidential candidates rush out and repeat the VILEST falsehoods about Trump. Then, later in the day, Trump responds to them... in pretty mild fashion (by Trump standards)…. and, today?? All the media wants to talk about was how un-civil Trump was for "attacking the Democrats during a day of healing".
Meanwhile, whacked out Leftist protesters (100 or more) are camped outside of Mitch McConnell's home, yelling things like "He shoulda broke his neck", and "Someone stab the M-F in the heart".... it's on video. McConnell's campaign posts the video on Twitter, and Twitter locks HIS account.
Words matter. When you start calling someone a liar, racist, and White Supremacist... or Russian asset, Putin stooge, etc…. you'd better be accurate. The Dems are not. They are lying. Weak minded people will believe it, and some will act on it.
I agree with Marianne: Dark forces are tearing at the fabric of this country.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 8, 2019 12:44:52 GMT
My biggest probelm is B. The media sucks so bad and is so highly irresponsible that they should start getting fined or shut down. They are literally trying to incite violence by saying white supremecy is a huge thing now...it is fabricated bullshit I 100% agree with you. If we're going to re-visit the 2nd amendment, then... maybe we'd better have another look at the 1st one too. My question is: Do we, as a country, have the GUTS to deal with consequences that come along with Freedom? I wonder.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 8, 2019 17:59:38 GMT
great.... Now Universal has a movie ready for release that shows Liberals with guns hunting down Trump supporters.
yea... The HATE all comes from Trump.
Good grief
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Post by bluehen on Aug 9, 2019 1:57:05 GMT
My biggest probelm is B. The media sucks so bad and is so highly irresponsible that they should start getting fined or shut down. They are literally trying to incite violence by saying white supremecy is a huge thing now...it is fabricated bullshit I 100% agree with you. If we're going to re-visit the 2nd amendment, then... maybe we'd better have another look at the 1st one too. My question is: Do we, as a country, have the GUTS to deal with consequences that come along with Freedom? I wonder. It's over the top and unfair, true, but Trump's blatant stupidity in saying and tweeting so many moronic things.....weekly, daily , gives them the ammo and most people a bad impression of him.
It all starts at the top. He needs to grow up, shut up, act Presidential and do his job and then the attacks might peter out. He has stated many times that he revels in being a counter puncher. That means he loves to be punched so he can do his counter punching. That might be why he says so many stupid things.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 9, 2019 2:46:35 GMT
Joe Biden slip-up in Iowa tonight.
"Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids."
Yikes...have fun mitigating that one.
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Post by Hero on Aug 9, 2019 6:53:36 GMT
I 100% agree with you. If we're going to re-visit the 2nd amendment, then... maybe we'd better have another look at the 1st one too. My question is: Do we, as a country, have the GUTS to deal with consequences that come along with Freedom? I wonder. It's over the top and unfair, true, but Trump's blatant stupidity in saying and tweeting so many moronic things.....weekly, daily , gives them the ammo and most people a bad impression of him.
It all starts at the top. He needs to grow up, shut up, act Presidential and do his job and then the attacks might peter out. He has stated many times that he revels in being a counter puncher. That means he loves to be punched so he can do his counter punching. That might be why he says so many stupid things.
Be nicer to the bullies? Good grief
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Post by Bevo on Aug 9, 2019 12:30:46 GMT
He needs to grow up, shut up, act Presidential and do his job and then the attacks might peter out.. But, it wouldn't... it didn't. That's the point. He might as well fight back, because.. they WON'T stop. I think, when you get right down to it... the decline of civility really started in 1973. Roe vs Wade split this country along a moral divide every bit as firmly held as slavery back in the 1800's. As it did then, it's take several decades to fester, but... it's coming to a head now. That decision led to Ted Kennedy's attacks on Robert Bork, which was the beginning of the end for political civility. It's only gotten worse since then. This divide has widened with the SC acceptance of gay marriage. That issue, is driving a wedge through all organized religions in this country. I don't know how we get back to anything like a unified country. Honestly, I don't it's possible. Hopefully, we can at least get to a divided country that doesn't kill each other.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 9, 2019 13:34:00 GMT
Good points, Bevo - multiple factors may have contributed to this massive divide and polarization. I'm just suggesting trying some civility at the very top and see if it might 'trickle down'. Like trickle down economics, let's give trickle down civility a shot. Trump's awaited 'great pivot' has never come close to happening. He seems to revel in the verbal combat, kinda like a 'sport' to him just like his tax evasion is a stated 'sport' to him.
If the most powerful individual in the land can try a little respect, honesty, empathy, maturity,dignity, civility, etc....all the good human nature traits.... wouldn't some of that tend to spread around at least a little bit ? The 'top' is the best place to start.
Do I sound like an old hippy or something ?..peace, love, harmony
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Post by Bevo on Aug 9, 2019 16:28:25 GMT
I'm just suggesting trying some civility at the very top and see if it might 'trickle down'. Like trickle down economics, let's give trickle down civility a shot.
Sorry Hen, but... it's WAY too late for that.
The Dems continue to openly blatantly lie.. on a daily basis, about despicable things. There is NO way to do business with them. They MUST be defeated.
Trump will fight. And, Trump will win.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 10, 2019 3:10:23 GMT
You're probably right, Bevo ..."ME, Me, Me, Me, Win, win Win " It's all about his personal ego . Bringing Americans together is about 675th on his priority list. It might become the new normal for presidential politics....divide and conquer
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 10, 2019 10:22:40 GMT
Actually bringing Americans together and advancing all Americans is his first priority, but the media will never allow that to be told.
People doing good things togther doesn’t sell advertising or generate clicks ona website.
Can’t have all of the pols of the last 50 years exposed as useless.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 10, 2019 15:17:38 GMT
Nothing brings a team, or a country together like WINNING!!
If Trump gets re-elected, it will be because MORE people are working, working for more money, and/or feeling better about their own lives.
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