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Post by EvilVodka on Aug 14, 2019 12:46:34 GMT
Something is way wrong here.... I count 252 wins for Bama in the past 25 years. Although, they do have 4 losing seasons in that time frame, where OSU only has one. Bama's complete domination really started 11 years ago. I think Alabama's domination started with the LSU rematch. The 2011 defense, the pounding RBs, and the intimidation started then. The shutout of one of LSU's best teams ever, and then following that year up with a complete annihilation of Notre Dame in 2012. Alabama has an intimidation factor. They really are the Mike Tyson of football, and they will come out and knock you out.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 14, 2019 12:46:55 GMT
How about a list of most wins vs FCS teams and even so called G5 teams...kinda reveal the scheduling cowards of big time CF ??
I was listening to a CF discussion on Sirius a few weeks back about the single most dominant team in CF history. Anyway, that team was not 71 Nebraska, not 95 Nebraska nor any of the 'latest greatest' teams. It was one of the early 20th century YALE teams!! Can't remember which one but it could have been the 1905 or 1909 teams. O9 gave up zero points all season. 05 Gave up 4 points. Those two teams outscored their opponents 447-4. And Remember those IVY opponents were the toughest to be found in those days.
Also, some skeptical comments here about Tennessee on these all time lists. Tennessee definitely belongs. Check the Neyland years. In a 150 year history of the sport everything is not just the short attention span 'latest greatest' boys.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 13:02:55 GMT
It was one of the early 20th century YALE teams!! Can't remember which one but it could have been the 1905 or 1909 teams. O9 gave up zero points all season. 05 Gave up 4 points. Those two teams outscored their opponents 447-4. And Remember those IVY opponents were the toughest to be found in those days. Another great example of teams that "Dominated" primarily because they played against very weak competition. In 1905 and 1909, football was still VERY new. Not many really had a clue HOW to even play. Yale had been playing for 30 years already. Totally unfair competition... but, that's all they had available to play.
Interesting stuff... I guess. About as interesting as Teddy Roosevelt's first trip to the Panama Canal and the invention of the "muffuletta" sandwich in New Orleans. These are also things that occurred in 1906.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 13:07:24 GMT
Something is way wrong here.... I count 252 wins for Bama in the past 25 years. Although, they do have 4 losing seasons in that time frame, where OSU only has one. Bama's complete domination really started 11 years ago. I think Alabama's domination started with the LSU rematch. Bama's current round of dominance (They've had several others) started in 2008. In the 11 seasons since then, they've only lost 15 games... and, three of those came in 2010.
They've only lost 1 game for the past 4 years, and 6 of the last 8.
That's pretty freaking incredible.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 13:16:18 GMT
Most Wins -- Last 25 Years (Power 5)I guess the difference must be P5 teams?
Bama has 243 wins in the past 25 years. But, I don't have data on how many were P5 teams.
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Post by doc on Aug 14, 2019 14:51:05 GMT
Most Wins -- Last 25 Years (Power 5)I guess the difference must be P5 teams?
Bama has 243 wins in the past 25 years. But, I don't have data on how many were P5 teams.
Not taking anything away from Bama, they are what everyone aspires to be, but based on the math (and I did go to Ohio State) it appears that 21 of their wins the past 25 years have come over G5 competition or worse. I saw the stat above where they've only lost about 5 games in 5 years - does that change if they don't play The Citadel and teams like that - maybe play a highly ranked OOC game on their home field? I don't know but it's a legitimate question. Ohio State went 86-9 the 7 years under Meyer which is pretty phenomenal and yet my guess is Alabama and Clemson have been better. And based on the schedules, OSU was 17-0 over G5 teams over that stretch and 69-9 vs P5 teams.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 14, 2019 15:00:26 GMT
VT might surprise some people (not us, of course) being as high as they are...probably because they didn't win a natty like some others, but Beamer was kicking butt in Blacksburg.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 15:03:32 GMT
I guess the difference must be P5 teams?
Bama has 243 wins in the past 25 years. But, I don't have data on how many were P5 teams.
Not taking anything away from Bama, they are what everyone aspires to be, but based on the math (and I did go to Ohio State) it appears that 21 of their wins the past 25 years have come over G5 competition or worse. I saw the stat above where they've only lost about 5 games in 5 years - does that change if they don't play The Citadel and teams like that - maybe play a highly ranked OOC game on their home field? I don't know but it's a legitimate question. Ohio State went 86-9 the 7 years under Meyer which is pretty phenomenal and yet my guess is Alabama and Clemson have been better. And based on the schedules, OSU was 17-0 over G5 teams over that stretch and 69-9 vs P5 teams. I don't see how playing 21 G5 or worse teams in 25 years detracts from what Bama has done. That's less than 1 a year, and surely... some of those were G5 teams.
MANY of those wins have come in CFP play, against 'The Best' Teams in the country.
Something is just wrong with that list of wins Tiger posted. Ohio State has won 255 games in the past 25 years. I only had to look TWO years to find more than 3 teams that were G5 or worse.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 14, 2019 15:06:01 GMT
Something is way wrong here.... I count 252 wins for Bama in the past 25 years. Although, they do have 4 losing seasons in that time frame, where OSU only has one. Bama's complete domination really started 11 years ago. Bama had to vacate a bunch of wins for the textbook scandal - likely the difference
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 15:07:04 GMT
Something is way wrong here.... I count 252 wins for Bama in the past 25 years. Although, they do have 4 losing seasons in that time frame, where OSU only has one. Bama's complete domination really started 11 years ago. Bama had to vacate a bunch of wins for the textbook scandal - likely the difference textbooks... lol
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Post by bluehen on Aug 14, 2019 16:59:15 GMT
28% of Bama's home wins in the Saban era have come vs FCS or G% teams.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 14, 2019 17:01:51 GMT
VT might surprise some people (not us, of course) being as high as they are...probably because they didn't win a natty like some others, but Beamer was kicking butt in Blacksburg. A Hokie surprise could go in either direction. We're holding our breath. At least we have a cupcake OOC schedule.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 14, 2019 17:09:40 GMT
I guess the difference must be P5 teams?
Bama has 243 wins in the past 25 years. But, I don't have data on how many were P5 teams.
Not taking anything away from Bama, they are what everyone aspires to be, but based on the math (and I did go to Ohio State) it appears that 21 of their wins the past 25 years have come over G5 competition or worse. I saw the stat above where they've only lost about 5 games in 5 years - does that change if they don't play The Citadel and teams like that - maybe play a highly ranked OOC game on their home field? I don't know but it's a legitimate question. Ohio State went 86-9 the 7 years under Meyer which is pretty phenomenal and yet my guess is Alabama and Clemson have been better. And based on the schedules, OSU was 17-0 over G5 teams over that stretch and 69-9 vs P5 teams.
Ohio State has NEVER lost to ANY school from the MAC, Conf USA, Mount West, AAC, or Sun Belt... They're 42-0 against them.
OSU has won a TON of game in the past 10 years... Kind of incredible that they don't have more trophies to show for it.
Part of their problem is, they only win 1 out of every 3 games against the SEC.
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Post by doc on Aug 14, 2019 17:23:07 GMT
Something is way wrong here.... I count 252 wins for Bama in the past 25 years. Although, they do have 4 losing seasons in that time frame, where OSU only has one. Bama's complete domination really started 11 years ago. Bama had to vacate a bunch of wins for the textbook scandal - likely the difference OSU vacated the entire 2010 season, 12-1, except for the loss. I still count them, I know what I saw!!
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Post by doc on Aug 14, 2019 17:23:38 GMT
Bama had to vacate a bunch of wins for the textbook scandal - likely the difference OSU vacated the entire 2010 season, 12-1, except for the loss. I still count them, I know what I saw!! Those pesky tattoos!
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