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Post by tigercpa on Aug 16, 2019 17:07:13 GMT
The problem with that, besides being fake news, is that the same 90% of people can't tell you what the current background check involves, nor what a "common sense background check" involves.
Current checks DON'T include young men taking Xanax or other anti-depressant meds...
Hen, did you pass a background check to receive those guns that were handed down to you? There's another loophole these gun nuts will want to fill.
Bingo. Just released: Connor Betts had cocaine, anti-depressants and alcohol in his system when he killed 9 people in Dayton, Ohio, according to the coroner. He was also in possession of a bag of cocaine. |
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Post by bluehen on Aug 17, 2019 13:24:52 GMT
All the more reason he (and like) shouldn't be permitted and enabled to access that kind of weaponry..or any firearms. But a gun sale is a gun sale to the NRA and its lobbying on behalf of the firearms industry....BOTTOM LINE. That's why LaPiere is in trump's ear every time trump even start's mentioning universal background checks, reminding him of the money and votes his organization can deliver ( or withdraw ! ) Universal background checks will equal fewer gun sales.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 17, 2019 15:49:42 GMT
All the more reason he (and like) shouldn't be permitted and enabled to access that kind of weaponry..or any firearms. Sure Hen. But, HOW do we keep someone like him from being permitted to access this kind of weaponry? This guy PASSED a "universal background check". But, taking drugs like he was is NOT something that gets a person on the prohibited list. Surely... you can see, no such list will EVER truly protect us. |
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Post by bluehen on Aug 17, 2019 18:55:24 GMT
All the more reason he (and like) shouldn't be permitted and enabled to access that kind of weaponry..or any firearms. Sure Hen. But, HOW do we keep someone like him from being permitted to access this kind of weaponry? This guy PASSED a "universal background check". But, taking drugs like he was is NOT something that gets a person on the prohibited list. Surely... you can see, no such list will EVER truly protect us. I agree, bevo. It wouldn't stop it but might save 'some' carnage from those that do have records and histories. More importantly it would be a small, common sense step in standing up to the NRA/gun industry and show that we care just like the common sense bump stock legislation. Don't know if you remember my plan or not bit it would focus on bans of the semi-automatic weaponry in conjunction with VERY Highly vetted licensing to buy ammo. ( from the ATF, not every corner store , big box store, or on line site ). That would have teeth, imo and get results. |
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Post by Bevo on Aug 17, 2019 21:09:51 GMT
Terrific plan Hen.
Better get started on getting that amendment you’re going to need.
Just curious, for which other rights do you want a List that takes them away from people? Freedom of religion? Speech ? Association?
It’s a dangerous game: giving away your freedoms.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 18, 2019 4:50:35 GMT
Terrific plan Hen. Better get started on getting that amendment you’re going to need. Just curious, for which other rights do you want a List that takes them away from people? Freedom of religion? Speech ? Association? It’s a dangerous game: giving away your freedoms.
Nope Bevo, only taking away freedom to mass slaughter people which we don't need
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Post by Bevo on Aug 18, 2019 14:00:26 GMT
Terrific plan Hen. Better get started on getting that amendment you’re going to need. Just curious, for which other rights do you want a List that takes them away from people? Freedom of religion? Speech ? Association? It’s a dangerous game: giving away your freedoms.
Nope Bevo, only taking away freedom to mass slaughter people which we don't need
Nobody has a “right” to do that Hen. In fact, we KILL people who do it. The problem is: some people get to a point where they’d rather die in a blaze of glory than live. |
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 18, 2019 15:17:58 GMT
Nope Bevo, only taking away freedom to mass slaughter people which we don't need
Nobody has a “right” to do that Hen. In fact, we KILL people who do it. The problem is: some people get to a point where they’d rather die in a blaze of glory than live. Yep, it's called suicide by cop. |
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Post by bluehen on Aug 18, 2019 18:42:50 GMT
Just curious ... what kind of firearms do you guys have and what do you use them for ?
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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 20, 2019 2:54:17 GMT
My dad was a hunter but I apparently did not inherit the gene. I have a shot gun and hand gun that was giving to me but have not shot either. I have been to the gun ranges maybe 4 times in my life and that is my experience with guns. In my office we have about 30% of the office that carry. I am 100% fine with that. I personally think Trump has done the right thing thus far(although I have not paid a lot of attention to it) because he is engaging in conversation and not jumping to conclusions. Again, just throwing my 2cents at the moment, I would look to eliminate high capacity magazine. Treat it like heroine. You get caught with it then you go to jail. That being said, it is just my position at the moment and I clearly don't have enough insight on how to address this at the moment.
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Post by doc on Aug 20, 2019 12:52:02 GMT
I don't own a gun, never have. I've made it almost 61 years without one and I'm pretty sure I can make it the rest of the way - hopefully a pretty long way!
I've only shot a gun a couple times. When I was in college I went home with a guy who lived on my floor and his family were all hunters. He took me out to shoot at cans and the first shot nearly knocked me on my ass.
Then, back in 2011 a group of us went to a skeet range/vineyard in Kentucky, a great combination (by Kentucky Speedway - Bevo might know the name) and I actually shot the contraption that launches the skeet - blew a bunch of holes in it, that was the last time I've pulled a trigger.
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