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Post by Kentflash_05 on Oct 24, 2019 10:47:59 GMT
Fine but we’re still blaming Alabama. Oh cry me a river. When USC was good with Pete Caroll there and if they were still good all the Alabama fans would be satibg the same thing I'm saying...HELL they were saying the same thing I'm saying. At that time USC gets the benefit of the doubt and that its not fair.....well now the shoe on its foot and they don't want to acknowledge it. I admitted Bama should have gotten the nod two years ago,but no one has benefited from not winning their division more than Alabama in the BCS or playoff era. Another non-divisional win and playoff inclusion wouldnt be fair to an LSU team that already beat them or any team left out of a 4 team playoff Hell Clemson won the national title last year and one analyst was talking about leaving them out even if they went undefeated and putting a 1 loss Alabama or LSU above them! So when the defending national champion doesnt even get the same respect as Bammer don't tell me that everyone plays by the same rules
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Post by Hero on Oct 24, 2019 11:41:32 GMT
Fine but we’re still blaming Alabama. Oh cry me a river. When USC was good with Pete Caroll there and if they were still good all the Alabama fans would be satibg the same thing I'm saying...HELL they were saying the same thing I'm saying. At that time USC gets the benefit of the doubt and that its not fair.....well now the shoe on its foot and they don't want to acknowledge it. I admitted Bama should have gotten the nod two years ago,but no one has benefited from not winning their division more than Alabama in the BCS or playoff era. Another non-divisional win and playoff inclusion wouldnt be fair to an LSU team that already beat them or any team left out of a 4 team playoff I am reminded of Penn State winning The B1G Championship, beating OSU head to head AND being snubbed from the playoffs for Ohio State. Poor, poor Ohio State. A tear.
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Post by bluehen on Oct 24, 2019 12:28:24 GMT
Three consecutive years of the B10 champion being denied an opportunity to compete for a a pretend national championship . What a system. Does anybody think that would happen if the BIG's primary media carrier was ESPN ?
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Post by Bevo on Oct 24, 2019 15:39:32 GMT
. Does anybody think that would happen if the BIG's primary media carrier was ESPN ? yes.. I do. I don't think ESPN had ANYTHING To do with it.
ESPN covers the CFP no matter WHO is in it. All they want is BIG ratings. Ohio State draws as big an audience as ANYONE. No reason at all to be biased against them.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Oct 24, 2019 15:49:50 GMT
. Does anybody think that would happen if the BIG's primary media carrier was ESPN ? yes.. I do. I don't think ESPN had ANYTHING To do with it.
So you don't think the committee is not influenced by ESPN in any way shape or form???
Last year a bad loss by tOSU is what put OU in the playoffs and allowed them to put a 2 loss UGA ahead of 1 loss tOSU conference champ.
2 years ago it the bad loss Bama had against Auburn had no negative effect when compared to Wiscy's perfect regular season and loss in the B1G CCG that went down to the wire
If you recall watching ESPN and then listening to the committee they are very similar in how teams are perceived. Thus far in every case the SEC has been a beneficiary in the selection process.
I am well aware that if tOSU has one slipup, they are on the outside if there are 2 1 loss SEC teams.
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Post by bluehen on Oct 24, 2019 16:16:48 GMT
The DPI is ESPN''s prime college football showcase and highest post season revenue producer. The SEC is the regular season's biggest investment for Disney (ESPN). So I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect some influence for the sake of good profit and business. Whether it's direct meddling and lobbying with the 'committee' or just the plethora of SEC inflated hype to influence the committee, or both, there is some persuasive connection there, IMO.
Bevo, do you honestly, in your heart and brain believe that the SEC teams do not receive special privileges on behalf of it's main media outlet and in the mythical system in general ?
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Post by kentflash_05@yahoo.com on Oct 24, 2019 16:17:12 GMT
Oh cry me a river. When USC was good with Pete Caroll there and if they were still good all the Alabama fans would be satibg the same thing I'm saying...HELL they were saying the same thing I'm saying. At that time USC gets the benefit of the doubt and that its not fair.....well now the shoe on its foot and they don't want to acknowledge it. I admitted Bama should have gotten the nod two years ago,but no one has benefited from not winning their division more than Alabama in the BCS or playoff era. Another non-divisional win and playoff inclusion wouldnt be fair to an LSU team that already beat them or any team left out of a 4 team playoff I am reminded of Penn State winning The B1G Championship, beating OSU head to head AND being snubbed from the playoffs for Ohio State. Poor, poor Ohio State. I'm also reminded of Penn State losing 49-10 to Michigan that very season...a bad loss, and Alabama fans remind Ohio State fans what a bad loss was every time 2017 was brought up A tear.
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Post by kentflash_05 on Oct 24, 2019 16:20:46 GMT
Remember how many SSEC fans cried when USC was chosen over Auburn in the national title? They now don't want to hear they are the beneficiary just like USC was being selected in that title game. BUT ITS A FACT.
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Post by tigercpa on Oct 24, 2019 17:34:30 GMT
Three consecutive years of the B10 champion being denied an opportunity to compete for a a pretend national championship . What a system. Does anybody think that would happen if the BIG's primary media carrier was ESPN ? If it were pretend, why would they be mad about getting left out?
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Post by ajbuckeye on Oct 24, 2019 20:10:09 GMT
Three consecutive years of the B10 champion being denied an opportunity to compete for a a pretend national championship . What a system. Does anybody think that would happen if the BIG's primary media carrier was ESPN ? If it were pretend, why would they be mad about getting left out? Pretty sure Hen does not have a horse in the race on this one. He is just stating how sees the illegitimacy in the system. Way too many legitimate contenders are eliminated solely based on opinion.
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Post by Hero on Oct 24, 2019 21:28:07 GMT
Three consecutive years of the B10 champion being denied an opportunity to compete for a a pretend national championship . What a system. Does anybody think that would happen if the BIG's primary media carrier was ESPN ? If it were pretend, why would they be mad about getting left out? Laughing
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Post by Hero on Oct 24, 2019 21:29:46 GMT
Remember how many SSEC fans cried when USC was chosen over Auburn in the national title? They now don't want to hear they are the beneficiary just like USC was being selected in that title game. BUT ITS A FACT. Tell me how many tears you shed for Penn State and I will tell you how many I shed for auburn?
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Post by bluehen on Oct 24, 2019 22:26:14 GMT
As we've been discussing and debating for years......the bottom line continues to be that a 2 or 4 team 'invitational ' event is just not adequate enough . All the teams that have been 'voted' into these BCS and CFP events were deserving, for sure, but so many more teams including proven league champions were also deserving. Until it becomes a genuine FBS inclusive championship it can only be an opinionated championship....also known as 'mythical'.
150 years of mythical national champs is enough. Let's start playing and do less voting. In other words, like all other team sports at all levels, let's eliminate worthy teams by on field, head to head elimination competition rather than closed door beauty contest voting.
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Post by Bevo on Oct 25, 2019 13:41:49 GMT
yes.. I do. I don't think ESPN had ANYTHING To do with it.
So you don't think the committee is not influenced by ESPN in any way shape or form???
Last year a bad loss by tOSU is what put OU in the playoffs and allowed them to put a 2 loss UGA ahead of 1 loss tOSU conference champ.
2 years ago it the bad loss Bama had against Auburn had no negative effect when compared to Wiscy's perfect regular season and loss in the B1G CCG that went down to the wire
If you recall watching ESPN and then listening to the committee they are very similar in how teams are perceived. Thus far in every case the SEC has been a beneficiary in the selection process.
I am well aware that if tOSU has one slipup, they are on the outside if there are 2 1 loss SEC teams.
Actually, it wasn’t just ONE bad loss that did in OSU last year... it was also a couple of very weak 1 point wins, and a win over Maryland that was an absolute gift. It’s hard to say, for sure, how much ESPN sways the committee. I assume, it’s no more than they sway me. And, that is not much. The SEC has DESERVED the extra respect in recent years. So, why shouldn’t ESPN and the committee agree? As pointed out re: USC in years back: the pendulum moves. The B1G is on an uptrend. But, they haven’t proved themselves on the Big Stage..... recently. OU didn’t win in the past two years, but they were competitive. So was UGA, when they were there. OSU is on a path to flip the script this year. We’re approaching the part of the season that has hurt them in past years. This Saturday will answer a lot of questions.
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Post by tigercpa on Oct 26, 2019 14:27:19 GMT
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