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Post by ajbuckeye on Nov 24, 2020 18:17:25 GMT
I just linked a video where he told dozens of lies. Unless you think he is telling the truth that he knows more about wind than anyone. Or any of the other dozens of subjects. And that was just one theme of his speech that he often repeats. Here is a link to a database that has easily searchable, filterable links to over 20,000 false or misleading statements made by Trump: www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/I think those who believe he doesn’t lie has a different definition of the word lie. He is exaggerating, it’s a figure if speech, or that is just the way he talks are the excuses. Or, if you believe everything he says, then it obviously isn’t a lie! What about the dozens of lies that he has said about the election? That he won, that there were thousands of fraudulent votes, etc? Of course that is not a lie to those who believe it. And that is the troubling part. Now that is too funny. First you are going to use one of the most biased sources in the Washington Post to stake your claim. Then one of the first lies they throw out there is about Trump claiming that Biden lied about fracking? ?
You have got to be kidding me. Did you not actually watch the Democratic Debate and the Presidential debate???
This is exactly what is currently wrong with this country and the media. People that are too lazy to do their own research actually believe what polarized media is shoving down their throats 24 - 7. By the way here is a clip that you can send to the Washington Post. Looks like they may need to do some fact checking on their fact checkers.
This is my last post on this thread so have at it but it may be worthwhile for you to do some research to have some actual facts behind our claims.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 24, 2020 21:14:45 GMT
I just linked a video where he told dozens of lies. Unless you think he is telling the truth that he knows more about wind than anyone. Or any of the other dozens of subjects. And that was just one theme of his speech that he often repeats. Here is a link to a database that has easily searchable, filterable links to over 20,000 false or misleading statements made by Trump: www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/I think those who believe he doesn’t lie has a different definition of the word lie. He is exaggerating, it’s a figure if speech, or that is just the way he talks are the excuses. Or, if you believe everything he says, then it obviously isn’t a lie! What about the dozens of lies that he has said about the election? That he won, that there were thousands of fraudulent votes, etc? Of course that is not a lie to those who believe it. And that is the troubling part. Now that is too funny. First you are going to use one of the most biased sources in the Washington Post to stake your claim. Then one of the first lies they throw out there is about Trump claiming that Biden lied about fracking? ?
You have got to be kidding me. Did you not actually watch the Democratic Debate and the Presidential debate???
This is exactly what is currently wrong with this country and the media. People that are too lazy to do their own research actually believe what polarized media is shoving down their throats 24 - 7. By the way here is a clip that you can send to the Washington Post. Looks like they may need to do some fact checking on their fact checkers.
This is my last post on this thread so have at it but it may be worthwhile for you to do some research to have some actual facts behind our claims.
AJ, the "news" counts on their dumbth to avoid investigating or researching. The whole platform is built on that premise. If Lester Holt (D-NBC) says it, it must be true. NBC is basically unwatchable due to their extreme bias. ABC is close and CBS seems biased, but not always over the top like the other 2. Just like all of these independent "fact-checkers" that cite "news stories" as their source, and then the "news" cites the "fact-checkers". In an Excel spreadsheet, this would be a circular reference. IF the Trump admin was like drinking a bottle of tabasco, the Biden admin will be like drinking unflavored, unsweetened almond milk.
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Post by Aufan on Nov 24, 2020 21:43:32 GMT
I posted a video of him lying multiple times.
That link has some bias, sure, but there aren’t 20,000 bogus claims. He has lied multiple times about the election in his tweets, saying that he won, there was widespread fraud, etc. That link has so much content because he spews a lot of bullshit.
Someone says a politician lies, most sane people will agree, that’s a politician for you. What I find so crazy is that people actually believe he hasn’t or doesn’t lie.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 25, 2020 23:47:49 GMT
I'm starting to think that trump being the 5th head on Mt Rushmore and having a grand monument/memorial in DC like those of Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington might not be a lock.
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Post by Hero on Nov 26, 2020 12:13:08 GMT
I'm starting to think that trump being the 5th head on Mt Rushmore and having a grand monument/memorial in DC like those of Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington might not be a lock. I like it.
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Post by Aufan on Nov 26, 2020 13:25:27 GMT
More court cases being lost/thrown out.
All the bold claims are made outside of court, where there is no perjury. Claims inside court are for things like 69 votes in PA... lol
I didn’t complain about Trump as our president. He was elected. But him out right rejecting the process the second time around is where it becomes so obnoxious and dangerous.
He’s fooling and lying to his base who is generally less educated, so that they still have reason to follow him, donate money, and buy more hats.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 26, 2020 13:54:48 GMT
That's the problem and a concern - 'base dumbth'......heavily armed base dumbth.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 27, 2020 14:24:41 GMT
The PA hearing showed there was certainly fraud in the election process.
The entire room gasped when the data showed that a batch of votes gave 600,000 to Biden and 3,200 to Trump.
The media keeps gaslighting with the term "widespread fraud". The fraud was not widepsread; however, it was narrow, but deep.
The legal threshold does not require proof of widespread fraud, but only to show that the fraud perpetrated impacted honest votes.
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Post by aufan on Nov 27, 2020 18:34:01 GMT
The PA hearing showed there was certainly fraud in the election process. The entire room gasped when the data showed that a batch of votes gave 600,000 to Biden and 3,200 to Trump. The media keeps gaslighting with the term "widespread fraud". The fraud was not widepsread; however, it was narrow, but deep. The legal threshold does not require proof of widespread fraud, but only to show that the fraud perpetrated impacted honest votes. Is this the one that the Trump appointed judge just ruled on, saying this:
“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here"
Just because you claim it is evidence of fraud, doesn't make it so. Just like claims that the MIT PHD's video did not prove fraud, but proved that many are very uneducated in even basic math like algebra.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 27, 2020 19:48:21 GMT
The PA hearing showed there was certainly fraud in the election process. The entire room gasped when the data showed that a batch of votes gave 600,000 to Biden and 3,200 to Trump. The media keeps gaslighting with the term "widespread fraud". The fraud was not widepsread; however, it was narrow, but deep. The legal threshold does not require proof of widespread fraud, but only to show that the fraud perpetrated impacted honest votes. Is this the one that the Trump appointed judge just ruled on, saying this:
“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here"
Just because you claim it is evidence of fraud, doesn't make it so. Just like claims that the MIT PHD's video did not prove fraud, but proved that many are very uneducated in even basic math like algebra.
No evidence has been presented in court because the Judges continue to refuse to allow evidence to be presented. The original Judge in the case dismissed the case AFTER he canceled the planned evidentiary hearing the case.
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Post by aufan on Nov 27, 2020 20:22:00 GMT
You just said they presented their evidence in the hearing. People even gasped! That should mean 4 more years of Trump.
But the Trump appointed judge said there were neither specific allegations nor proof of any fraud.
So basically all these judges are in on the fix too?
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 30, 2020 15:20:25 GMT
Extreme data anomalies in the 4 key states, all occurring in the middle of the night, after all 4 states had supposedly stopped counting (hint: they didn't stop, "counting" continued unobserved). Extreme in size and ratio. Out of 8,954 batches analyzed, most hover around the mean (zero on the X-axis). Shown differently, these four decisive updates were the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th most anomalous updates in the entire data set. ALL FOUR updates were outside the 99.5th percentile of co-extremity. Not only does each of these vote updates not follow the generally observed pattern, but the anomalous behavior of these updates is particularly extreme. That is, these vote updates are outliers of the outliers. The statistical likelihood of this occurring naturally in just ONE state is one billion to one. For all FOUR states to occur naturally and within hours of each other, it is one-thousand trillion to one.
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Post by aufan on Dec 1, 2020 11:06:25 GMT
The statistical likelihood of this occurring naturally in just ONE state is one billion to one. For all FOUR states to occur naturally and within hours of each other, it is one-thousand trillion to one. The report that you are pulling this from says it is about 1%, not 0.00000000000001%. You are only off by 14 orders of magnitude.
Anyways, to put it in perspective, hitting any three specific 3 numbers in a row on a roulette wheel is 0.0018%, about half of the probability of what their original estimate was. Yet 3 number combinations happen every 3 spins. Going back and classifying how rare it was that those 3 numbers hit in a row might be academically interesting, but it is absolutely worthless evidence to suggest that it didn't actually happen.
Likewise, for your quite ridiculous one in a quadrillion (seriously, where did you get that number?), that would be between 8 and 9 roulette numbers in a row. Unlikely for any specific set of 9 numbers to show up, however it cannot be used as evidence that 9 specific numbers weren't hit in a row.
Not to mention that they are using unofficial vote batch update numbers and making assumptions about the vote batches (similar Trump/Biden ratios as the rest of the state).
If this is the "evidence" that is getting presented, no wonder it is getting dismissed. I assume to become a judge you must have graduated high school, which had basic math like algebra and statistics.
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 1, 2020 16:19:58 GMT
With each additional GOP win in the House, the "Biden only" votes look more suspect.
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Post by bluehen on Dec 1, 2020 16:49:00 GMT
Those GOP congressional winners are respectable adults, cpa. I don't think it's too suspicious that the majority of voters have come to realize that trump is a despicable asshole, unhinged, unqualified, dishonest and emotionally unstable. His severely flawed persona lost the election.
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