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Post by Bevo on Aug 29, 2019 16:08:54 GMT
I don't know , Bevo, That resonated pretty strongly with me when you said every single FBS team had an equal shot. I'm 72 so possibly I could have missed the exact quote So suppose ULaLa upsets the Horns and proceeds to run the table. They're, therefore, locked in to the DPI ? No one, in this system is ever “locked in”. I would never suggest otherwise. Every team’s goal has to be, “go undefeated”, and then hope the schedule they’ve played is strong enough to warrant selection over the competition.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 29, 2019 16:24:31 GMT
I do remember you saying ALL teams control their own destiny in regard to the MCFP. However, If they run the table their 'destiny' is squarely in the hands of beauty contest voting in a committee room- not in the hands of that undefeated team that played the only schedule it was permitted to play. I think teams, players, coaches, and universities controlling their own destiny, regarding the DPI, is a blatant myth in this very exclusive TV profit driven system.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 29, 2019 16:55:28 GMT
Hen, I would never say that. It’s never guaranteed for anyone.
I would say, all teams control their destiny, in the long run. Not for a single season. Any school, who can manage it, has the right to grow, be successful, make it to a P5 conference, and yes... get themselves selected to the CFP. NO TEAM, or school, Is prohibited from doing so by any law or regulation. All that prevents them is their own ability.
No school is only allowed to play a certain schedule. They play the schedule they have arranged for themselves. That, is a fact.
Some are unable, or unwilling to arrange a schedule that gives them a legitimate chance of making the CFP. But, that was their own choice, or the limits of their ability.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 30, 2019 16:14:27 GMT
No way it's completely their own choice, Bevo. You don't get that Alabama 'schedules' Southern Miss. USM does not 'schedule' Alamama. You don't get that Navy and Middle Tennessee can't just call the SEC or ACC office and and announce that they have decided to join those conferences.."send us the schedule". The Cartel has the two class system locked into place, in general....and only teams from one of those classes truly can control their own destiny in regards to the post season.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 30, 2019 16:17:18 GMT
No way it's completely their own choice, Bevo. NO ONE, not even Bama, is in "complete control" of their schedule. It takes TWO teams to agree.
They all have the equal ability to reach out to another team and try to schedule a game, or series.
They all have the option of trying to schedule "good teams" or cupcakes.
If a team in a G5 conference wants a SHOT at being selected to the CFP, they MUST try to schedule a couple of decent P5 teams as OOC. The more the better. If they don't? They shouldn't be surprised when they get overlooked.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 30, 2019 16:41:15 GMT
I'll buy "trying" but even if successful the conference patch on the jerseys is the bottom line qualifier for the MCFP. This event is 100% for the approved Cartel leagues only. 100000% percent proven by history.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 30, 2019 17:11:56 GMT
100000% percent proven by history. 5 years of data is hardly "proof".
Any G5 school that can PROVE it could make a fortune in court.
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Post by Hero on Aug 30, 2019 21:25:24 GMT
No way it's completely their own choice, Bevo. NO ONE, not even Bama, is in "complete control" of their schedule. It takes TWO teams to agree.
They all have the equal ability to reach out to another team and try to schedule a game, or series.
They all have the option of trying to schedule "good teams" or cupcakes.
If a team in a G5 conference wants a SHOT at being selected to the CFP, they MUST try to schedule a couple of decent P5 teams as OOC. The more the better. If they don't? They shouldn't be surprised when they get overlooked.
I guess it is true that grandkids make a man mellow.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 30, 2019 23:46:13 GMT
100000% percent proven by history. 5 years of data is hardly "proof".
Any G5 school that can PROVE it could make a fortune in court.
I'm referring to the MBCS and the MCFP eras combined...30 years. All 30 have been cartel controlled.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 30, 2019 23:53:47 GMT
No way it's completely their own choice, Bevo. NO ONE, not even Bama, is in "complete control" of their schedule. It takes TWO teams to agree.
They all have the equal ability to reach out to another team and try to schedule a game, or series.
They all have the option of trying to schedule "good teams" or cupcakes.
If a team in a G5 conference wants a SHOT at being selected to the CFP, they MUST try to schedule a couple of decent P5 teams as OOC. The more the better. If they don't? They shouldn't be surprised when they get overlooked.
That's mathematically impossible, Bevo. If all 66 , so called, G5 teams tried and succeeded to schedule two cartel teams each, the cartel teams would have to play even fewer OOC games vs themselves and fewer vs the FCS.....would never happen.
Nope, until it happens, conference affiliation determines the DPI....always has. ( except ND)
Also fair home and home arrangements would be rare and most difficult to negotiate, especially with the big brand name cartel teams.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 31, 2019 16:45:45 GMT
NO ONE, not even Bama, is in "complete control" of their schedule. It takes TWO teams to agree.
They all have the equal ability to reach out to another team and try to schedule a game, or series.
They all have the option of trying to schedule "good teams" or cupcakes.
If a team in a G5 conference wants a SHOT at being selected to the CFP, they MUST try to schedule a couple of decent P5 teams as OOC. The more the better. If they don't? They shouldn't be surprised when they get overlooked.
That's mathematically impossible, Bevo. If all 66 , so called, G5 teams tried and succeeded to schedule two cartel teams each, the cartel teams would have to play even fewer OOC games vs themselves and fewer vs the FCS.....would never happen.
Nope, until it happens, conference affiliation determines the DPI....always has. ( except ND)
Also fair home and home arrangements would be rare and most difficult to negotiate, especially with the big brand name cartel teams.
No matter what you profess to believe Hen, the FACTS REMAIN: ALL teams have a path. All they have to do is execute it, and hope for the best.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 31, 2019 17:00:12 GMT
NO ONE, not even Bama, is in "complete control" of their schedule. It takes TWO teams to agree.
They all have the equal ability to reach out to another team and try to schedule a game, or series.
They all have the option of trying to schedule "good teams" or cupcakes.
If a team in a G5 conference wants a SHOT at being selected to the CFP, they MUST try to schedule a couple of decent P5 teams as OOC. The more the better. If they don't? They shouldn't be surprised when they get overlooked.
I guess it is true that grandkids make a man mellow. lol No doubt... The old me would be YELLING by now!
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 31, 2019 17:54:06 GMT
I don't know , Bevo, That resonated pretty strongly with me when you said every single FBS team had an equal shot. I'm 72 so possibly I could have missed the exact quote So suppose ULaLa upsets the Horns and proceeds to run the table. They're, therefore, locked in to the DPI ? No one, in this system is ever “locked in”. I would never suggest otherwise. Every team’s goal has to be, “go undefeated”, and then hope the schedule they’ve played is strong enough to warrant selection over the competition. NCAA football is celebrating 150 years this year. What factor has mattered most over that time - going UNDEFEATED. Period.
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Post by bluehen on Sept 1, 2019 4:09:05 GMT
Many FBS level teams have gone undefeated but zero opportunities. What really matters the most is 'brand'.
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