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Post by tigercpa on Jun 24, 2024 13:26:02 GMT
It was a matter for the courts, not armed FBI agents. Presidents have “extraordinary power” in such matters. That’s what the site says. There was never any national security risk. Joe possessed classified documents for decades! That alone was a prosecutable offense. Not doing so was prosecutorial discretion. The kind that was NOT given to Trump. That’s why people see it as partisan. Aka; Bogus Exactly. I've seen many emotional / altruistic arguments here: "Biden cooperated", "he returned the documents when asked" (he actually didn't). Irrelevant. He committed a serious crime simply by possessing the documents he was not cleared to possess. in a sane world, he would have been charged by the DOJ. Likewise, when Comey found Hillary had committed over 100 individual crimes.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jun 24, 2024 17:30:31 GMT
It was a matter for the courts, not armed FBI agents. Presidents have “extraordinary power” in such matters. That’s what the site says. There was never any national security risk. Joe possessed classified documents for decades! That alone was a prosecutable offense. Not doing so was prosecutorial discretion. The kind that was NOT given to Trump. That’s why people see it as partisan. Aka; Bogus Exactly. I've seen many emotional / altruistic arguments here: "Biden cooperated", "he returned the documents when asked" (he actually didn't). Irrelevant. He committed a serious crime simply by possessing the documents he was not cleared to possess. in a sane world, he would have been charged by the DOJ. Likewise, when Comey found Hillary had committed over 100 individual crimes. Let's not forget that the Bidens and their associates have received over $20 million in payments from foreign adversaries such as Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, and China.
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Post by aufan on Jun 24, 2024 17:50:59 GMT
It was a matter for the courts, not armed FBI agents. Presidents have “extraordinary power” in such matters. That’s what the site says. There was never any national security risk. Joe possessed classified documents for decades! That alone was a prosecutable offense. Not doing so was prosecutorial discretion. The kind that was NOT given to Trump. That’s why people see it as partisan. Aka; Bogus The documents being in a private residence, one that had been compromised before, is not a risk? Experts disagree. Discretion was given to Trump. Multiple times. He was then issued a subpoena, which he violated. He refused to return documents when given every chance, which is what he is being charged with. In contrast, Biden consented to a search and promptly returned any documents. Claiming that Biden violated the same laws, or that the cases are the same, is just ignorant. Show me where Biden refused to give documents back, lied that he gave the documents back, or defied a subpoena to return documents.
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Post by Bevo on Jun 25, 2024 1:15:33 GMT
It was a matter for the courts, not armed FBI agents. Presidents have “extraordinary power” in such matters. That’s what the site says. There was never any national security risk. Joe possessed classified documents for decades! That alone was a prosecutable offense. Not doing so was prosecutorial discretion. The kind that was NOT given to Trump. That’s why people see it as partisan. Aka; Bogus The documents being in a private residence, one that had been compromised before, is not a risk? Experts disagree. Discretion was given to Trump. Multiple times. He was then issued a subpoena, which he violated. He refused to return documents when given every chance, which is what he is being charged with. In contrast, Biden consented to a search and promptly returned any documents. Claiming that Biden violated the same laws, or that the cases are the same, is just ignorant. Show me where Biden refused to give documents back, lied that he gave the documents back, or defied a subpoena to return documents. "He was then issued a subpoena, which he violated."A subpoena against a President. Hmn.... It's almost as if you don't understand the concept of 'Separation of Powers', or 'Co-equal' branches of government. I have nothing more to say to you on this subject. I've stated my case. I don't expect it to have any impact on you. You have a plethora of whacked-out liberal websites to support your different view. We are in the middle of a new campaign now. ALL OF THIS is old news. Beyond that, there is LIFE to be lived. Arguing about two shades of deplorable politicians just doesn't hold the import it used to have, to me. This isn't a "mad quit".... it's a "don't give a shit anymore" quit. It's all beyond silly. Our country is quickly heading for the "ash heap of history" that Reagan warned us about decades ago. One day, people will wonder how we all sat here and LET it happen.
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Post by aufan on Jun 25, 2024 9:52:03 GMT
The documents being in a private residence, one that had been compromised before, is not a risk? Experts disagree. Discretion was given to Trump. Multiple times. He was then issued a subpoena, which he violated. He refused to return documents when given every chance, which is what he is being charged with. In contrast, Biden consented to a search and promptly returned any documents. Claiming that Biden violated the same laws, or that the cases are the same, is just ignorant. Show me where Biden refused to give documents back, lied that he gave the documents back, or defied a subpoena to return documents. "He was then issued a subpoena, which he violated."A subpoena against a President. Hmn.... It's almost as if you don't understand the concept of 'Separation of Powers', or 'Co-equal' branches of government. I have nothing more to say to you on this subject. I've stated my case. I don't expect it to have any impact on you. You have a plethora of whacked-out liberal websites to support your different view. We are in the middle of a new campaign now. ALL OF THIS is old news. Beyond that, there is LIFE to be lived. Arguing about two shades of deplorable politicians just doesn't hold the import it used to have, to me. This isn't a "mad quit".... it's a "don't give a shit anymore" quit. It's all beyond silly. Our country is quickly heading for the "ash heap of history" that Reagan warned us about decades ago. One day, people will wonder how we all sat here and LET it happen. A subpoena, against a former president, for willfully violating laws written by congress, committed while no longer president, after being given every chance to comply. My whacked-out liberal websites are simply stating the facts of this case, none of which you can refute. Your argument is that the president - former president - should be above the law. Now that is whacked out. And perfectly makes my overall point and finally answers my question. The only defense for Trump is valuing party over country, favoring for a two tiered justice system and belief that the president is above the law. You really wrapped it up and put a bow on it with that one, thank you!
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Post by Hero on Jun 30, 2024 20:45:58 GMT
Can you cheerlead for me? We are 11 pages in and not a single conservative can answer my question: How does anyone justify Trump lying that the election was stolen through fraudulent votes? The closest we got was Bevo saying that it “might have been irresponsible”. Do you have an answer for my question? Though I suppose cheerleaders only cheer for one side, even when they are losing. Lying? Do you have proof there was no fraud in that election? You seem confident, will you please show us your evidence?
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Post by Hero on Jul 3, 2024 10:24:03 GMT
Can you cheerlead for me? We are 11 pages in and not a single conservative can answer my question: How does anyone justify Trump lying that the election was stolen through fraudulent votes? The closest we got was Bevo saying that it “might have been irresponsible”. Do you have an answer for my question? Though I suppose cheerleaders only cheer for one side, even when they are losing. Lying? Do you have proof there was no fraud in that election? You seem confident, will you please show us your evidence? Whine about not getting your question answered and then you don't answer my questions. ..as anticipated. I read you like a comic book. Be careful in the fog. Laughing and rolling
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Post by aufan on Jul 3, 2024 17:24:20 GMT
Lying? Do you have proof there was no fraud in that election? You seem confident, will you please show us your evidence? Whine about not getting your question answered and then you don't answer my questions. ..as anticipated. I read you like a comic book. Be careful in the fog. Laughing and rolling I’m flattered that you missed me! Anyways, I don’t have proof that no election fraud happened. This does not mean that Trump was not lying when he said it was a fact that the election was stolen from him through fraudulent votes. I agree that Trump had every right to challenge the results, raise suspicions, go to the courts, etc. I don’t think he had the right to lie to the American people to claim that it was stolen as a fact. So you think he was justified in saying, as fact, that the election was stolen from him through fraudulent votes?
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Post by bluehen on Jul 10, 2024 10:34:57 GMT
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Post by aufan on Jul 13, 2024 21:48:14 GMT
Lying? Do you have proof there was no fraud in that election? You seem confident, will you please show us your evidence? Whine about not getting your question answered and then you don't answer my questions. ..as anticipated. I read you like a comic book. Be careful in the fog. Laughing and rolling Your lack of a response has been very entertaining to me. Thank you.
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Post by Hero on Jul 15, 2024 17:30:41 GMT
Whine about not getting your question answered and then you don't answer my questions. ..as anticipated. I read you like a comic book. Be careful in the fog. Laughing and rolling Your lack of a response has been very entertaining to me. Thank you. You're welcome
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Post by aufan on Jul 18, 2024 19:26:00 GMT
Your lack of a response has been very entertaining to me. Thank you. You're welcome While you and others are too cowardly to answer the question, Trump continues to spread the lie that the 2020 election was stolen.
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Post by Hero on Jul 19, 2024 16:49:46 GMT
While you and others are too cowardly to answer the question, Trump continues to spread the lie that the 2020 election was stolen. I said you're welcome. Good grief
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Post by aufan on Jul 19, 2024 17:33:45 GMT
While you and others are too cowardly to answer the question, Trump continues to spread the lie that the 2020 election was stolen. I said you're welcome. Good grief I thanked you. And I will thank you again for entertaining me. You are too cowardly to answer a simple question, and that entertains me. Bevo, cpa, AJ, Vodka are also too cowardly to answer this question. And it is why I keep coming back to laugh at the cowardice. It entertains me. Will any coward here, coward Bevo, coward cpa, coward AJ, coward vodka, straight up say that the election was stolen? They won’t. They will not say that the election was stolen. They know it was not. But they will support Trump, who says that it was stolen. Cowards.
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Post by Bevo on Jul 19, 2024 18:30:35 GMT
No one can know, with certainty whether it was stolen, or not. Either way, people can only rely on their own faith.
And THAT, is a problem.
It’s an easily solvable problem. The fact that democrats show zero interest in doing anything to solve the problem strengthens my opinion that they are abusing the vulnerabilities in the system.
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