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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 26, 2024 13:54:24 GMT
I did answer your question last time when I said B. Are you going to answer these. Do you still stand by your claim that there was no fraud in the 2020 election? Will you admit that Biden incited an assassination attempt of his opponent in the upcoming election? I didn’t realize you were answering my question when you said “the to my question is B”. Why so coy? Why say “potential fraud” when you know it was actual fraud? Anyways, I have never said there was no fraud in the 2020 election. Why lie about this? Biden did not incite an assassination attempt. You should be embarrassed by this question. In effort to be more direct and less coy I will again answer your question without any justification.
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So are you saying there was fraud? You stated that you have clearly stated your opinion on the election. Well it is not very clear to me so can you take this time to clarify?
So your thinking is as follows.
"March of the capital peacefully and patriotically and have your voices heard" equates to inciting an insurrection when people go inside the capital. Trump never said go inside the capital and many of them went through doors held open by the capital police.
"we need to put Trump in a Bulls Eye" does not equate to inciting an assassination attempt. Keep in mind the assassin did exactly what Biden stated and put Trump in his bulls eye.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 26, 2024 14:29:01 GMT
...but a 2.5" windage right adjustment was not achieved
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Post by aufan on Jul 26, 2024 14:51:17 GMT
I didn’t realize you were answering my question when you said “the to my question is B”. Why so coy? Why say “potential fraud” when you know it was actual fraud? Anyways, I have never said there was no fraud in the 2020 election. Why lie about this? Biden did not incite an assassination attempt. You should be embarrassed by this question. In effort to be more direct and less coy I will again answer your question without any justification.
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So are you saying there was fraud? You stated that you have clearly stated your opinion on the election. Well it is not very clear to me so can you take this time to clarify?
So your thinking is as follows.
"March of the capital peacefully and patriotically and have your voices heard" equates to inciting an insurrection when people go inside the capital. Trump never said go inside the capital and many of them went through doors held open by the capital police.
"we need to put Trump in a Bulls Eye" does not equate to inciting an assassination attempt. Keep in mind the assassin did exactly what Biden stated and put Trump in his bulls eye.
My stance has been the same: fraudulent votes didn’t determine the outcome of the election. You either lie and claim I said there was zero fraud, or you are too stupid to understand this is not the same as saying there is zero fraud. Your choice. Trump summoned a crowd to D.C., told them to fight like hell or they wouldn’t have a country anymore, and they rioted at the capital to prevent the confirmation of then next POTUS. You’re comparing this to someone using the term bullseye?
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 26, 2024 17:13:23 GMT
In effort to be more direct and less coy I will again answer your question without any justification.
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So are you saying there was fraud? You stated that you have clearly stated your opinion on the election. Well it is not very clear to me so can you take this time to clarify?
So your thinking is as follows.
"March of the capital peacefully and patriotically and have your voices heard" equates to inciting an insurrection when people go inside the capital. Trump never said go inside the capital and many of them went through doors held open by the capital police.
"we need to put Trump in a Bulls Eye" does not equate to inciting an assassination attempt. Keep in mind the assassin did exactly what Biden stated and put Trump in his bulls eye.
My stance has been the same: fraudulent votes didn’t determine the outcome of the election. You either lie and claim I said there was zero fraud, or you are too stupid to understand this is not the same as saying there is zero fraud. Your choice. Trump summoned a crowd to D.C., told them to fight like hell or they wouldn’t have a country anymore, and they rioted at the capital to prevent the confirmation of then next POTUS. You’re comparing this to someone using the term bullseye? There has been so much information put out in this board regarding fraud in the 2020 election and you have yet to accept or acknowledge a single tidbit of it. Case and point. You indicated that you watch the entire movie of 2000 mules. You debunked the entire movie because we did not see the same person at multiple drop boxes. Do you think that fact that they were all wearing masks had anything to do with it? You have never once admitted that there was an fraud or fraudulent votes in the 2020 election. Maybe you never said it but it is pretty easy to conclude that your position is that there were no fraudulent votes cast. Typical response on your end. Either deflect or name call. Again, your response is clear as mud regarding if you think there was fraud or if fraudulent votes were cast in the 2020 election. I answered your question when asked for A or B. Can you answer this question with a simple yes or no. Pretty sure you can't but I will give it a shot. Was any fraud or fraudulent votes casted in the 2020 election? BTW here is a response to SEB2023-025 that was submitted about a month ago that should be able to help you out. voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/SEB2023-025-Reconsider-Letter.pdfSo let me revise your thinking based on your comments. How you can not see the hypocrisy in these statements is simply amazing "fight like hell or they wouldn’t have a country anymore" equates to inciting an insurrection when people go inside the capital. Trump never said go inside the capital and many of them went through doors held open by the capital police. "we need to put Trump in a Bulls Eye" does not equate to inciting an assassination attempt. Keep in mind the assassin did exactly what Biden stated and put Trump in his bulls eye.
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Post by aufan on Jul 26, 2024 18:53:01 GMT
My stance has been the same: fraudulent votes didn’t determine the outcome of the election. You either lie and claim I said there was zero fraud, or you are too stupid to understand this is not the same as saying there is zero fraud. Your choice. Trump summoned a crowd to D.C., told them to fight like hell or they wouldn’t have a country anymore, and they rioted at the capital to prevent the confirmation of then next POTUS. You’re comparing this to someone using the term bullseye? There has been so much information put out in this board regarding fraud in the 2020 election and you have yet to accept or acknowledge a single tidbit of it. Case and point. You indicated that you watch the entire movie of 2000 mules. You debunked the entire movie because we did not see the same person at multiple drop boxes. Do you think that fact that they were all wearing masks had anything to do with it? You have never once admitted that there was an fraud or fraudulent votes in the 2020 election. Maybe you never said it but it is pretty easy to conclude that your position is that there were no fraudulent votes cast. Typical response on your end. Either deflect or name call. Again, your response is clear as mud regarding if you think there was fraud or if fraudulent votes were cast in the 2020 election. I answered your question when asked for A or B. Can you answer this question with a simple yes or no. Pretty sure you can't but I will give it a shot. Was any fraud or fraudulent votes casted in the 2020 election? BTW here is a response to SEB2023-025 that was submitted about a month ago that should be able to help you out. voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/SEB2023-025-Reconsider-Letter.pdfSo let me revise your thinking based on your comments. How you can not see the hypocrisy in these statements is simply amazing "fight like hell or they wouldn’t have a country anymore" equates to inciting an insurrection when people go inside the capital. Trump never said go inside the capital and many of them went through doors held open by the capital police. "we need to put Trump in a Bulls Eye" does not equate to inciting an assassination attempt. Keep in mind the assassin did exactly what Biden stated and put Trump in his bulls eye. Of course there was some fraud. Many cases of fraud have been found and prosecuted, but there is no evidence that it was anywhere close to changing the election. The premise of 2000 mules was that mules visited multiple boxes to drop ballots. So yes, the movie not showing a single piece of evidence of mules visiting multiple drop boxes to drop ballots is debunking the movie. Oh yeah, they also wouldn’t cooperate with investigators and had their movie pulled because they were found to by lying. Yet you still cite this widely debunked movie that shows zero evidence. I have a feeling you are serious about the a Biden inciting an assassination. Trump summoned people to D.C. and spent 90 minutes lying to his rally that if they don’t stop the steal and fight like hell that they won’t have a country yet anymore. They did that, immediately after he told them to, hence inciting. Biden used one euphemism and days later some deranged guy tries to kill Trump, and you blame Biden? You’re a political hack.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 27, 2024 14:21:50 GMT
There has been so much information put out in this board regarding fraud in the 2020 election and you have yet to accept or acknowledge a single tidbit of it. Case and point. You indicated that you watch the entire movie of 2000 mules. You debunked the entire movie because we did not see the same person at multiple drop boxes. Do you think that fact that they were all wearing masks had anything to do with it? You have never once admitted that there was an fraud or fraudulent votes in the 2020 election. Maybe you never said it but it is pretty easy to conclude that your position is that there were no fraudulent votes cast. Typical response on your end. Either deflect or name call. Again, your response is clear as mud regarding if you think there was fraud or if fraudulent votes were cast in the 2020 election. I answered your question when asked for A or B. Can you answer this question with a simple yes or no. Pretty sure you can't but I will give it a shot. Was any fraud or fraudulent votes casted in the 2020 election? BTW here is a response to SEB2023-025 that was submitted about a month ago that should be able to help you out. voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/SEB2023-025-Reconsider-Letter.pdfSo let me revise your thinking based on your comments. How you can not see the hypocrisy in these statements is simply amazing "fight like hell or they wouldn’t have a country anymore" equates to inciting an insurrection when people go inside the capital. Trump never said go inside the capital and many of them went through doors held open by the capital police. "we need to put Trump in a Bulls Eye" does not equate to inciting an assassination attempt. Keep in mind the assassin did exactly what Biden stated and put Trump in his bulls eye. Of course there was some fraud. Many cases of fraud have been found and prosecuted, but there is no evidence that it was anywhere close to changing the election. The premise of 2000 mules was that mules visited multiple boxes to drop ballots. So yes, the movie not showing a single piece of evidence of mules visiting multiple drop boxes to drop ballots is debunking the movie. Oh yeah, they also wouldn’t cooperate with investigators and had their movie pulled because they were found to by lying. Yet you still cite this widely debunked movie that shows zero evidence. I have a feeling you are serious about the a Biden inciting an assassination. Trump summoned people to D.C. and spent 90 minutes lying to his rally that if they don’t stop the steal and fight like hell that they won’t have a country yet anymore. They did that, immediately after he told them to, hence inciting. Biden used one euphemism and days later some deranged guy tries to kill Trump, and you blame Biden? You’re a political hack.
You could not identfy election fraud if it smacked you in the face. I'm not sure if you are not capable of processing it or just chose to ignore it. The link I provided identifies nearly 60K votes in Georgia in question. This is well above the margin of victory in the state. Here is a snippet. Can you debunk this one for me.
To recap, SEB2023-025 claims that in the 2020 General Election, Fulton County certified up to 58,924 votes that have no source justification. Specifically, it claims: 1. 17,852 ballots with certified votes have no .TIF ballot images or .SHA authentication files 2. 3,125 ballots were double scanned and counted twice 3. 20,713 ballots from ten tabulators which have no tabulator documents 4. 17,234 Presidential race votes were backfilled from unknown ballots to reconcile Dec. 3 results
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Post by aufan on Jul 27, 2024 15:38:53 GMT
Of course there was some fraud. Many cases of fraud have been found and prosecuted, but there is no evidence that it was anywhere close to changing the election. The premise of 2000 mules was that mules visited multiple boxes to drop ballots. So yes, the movie not showing a single piece of evidence of mules visiting multiple drop boxes to drop ballots is debunking the movie. Oh yeah, they also wouldn’t cooperate with investigators and had their movie pulled because they were found to by lying. Yet you still cite this widely debunked movie that shows zero evidence. I have a feeling you are serious about the a Biden inciting an assassination. Trump summoned people to D.C. and spent 90 minutes lying to his rally that if they don’t stop the steal and fight like hell that they won’t have a country yet anymore. They did that, immediately after he told them to, hence inciting. Biden used one euphemism and days later some deranged guy tries to kill Trump, and you blame Biden? You’re a political hack.
You could not identfy election fraud if it smacked you in the face. I'm not sure if you are not capable of processing it or just chose to ignore it. The link I provided identifies nearly 60K votes in Georgia in question. This is well above the margin of victory in the state. Here is a snippet. Can you debunk this one for me.
To recap, SEB2023-025 claims that in the 2020 General Election, Fulton County certified up to 58,924 votes that have no source justification. Specifically, it claims: 1. 17,852 ballots with certified votes have no .TIF ballot images or .SHA authentication files 2. 3,125 ballots were double scanned and counted twice 3. 20,713 ballots from ten tabulators which have no tabulator documents 4. 17,234 Presidential race votes were backfilled from unknown ballots to reconcile Dec. 3 results
apnews.com/article/fact-check-2020-fulton-county-georgia-20713-votes-504105499507apnews.com/article/fact-check-election-georgia-fulton-county-audit-346686441033I agree the double scanning is concerning, but not enough to change the election outcome, nor was it found to be malicious fraudulent activity. You liars have an advantage, it is much easier to spread a lie than to debunk it. You will just move on to the next lie.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 28, 2024 12:23:21 GMT
Honest question for you trump fanatics: What is with his obsession with Hannibal Lecter ??.....who he refers to as the "late great Hannibal Lecter" ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Do we really need a 'way too old' , fat geezer in the WH with nonsensical ramblings like this and rapidly declining mental acuity ?
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 29, 2024 15:56:01 GMT
You could not identfy election fraud if it smacked you in the face. I'm not sure if you are not capable of processing it or just chose to ignore it. The link I provided identifies nearly 60K votes in Georgia in question. This is well above the margin of victory in the state. Here is a snippet. Can you debunk this one for me.
To recap, SEB2023-025 claims that in the 2020 General Election, Fulton County certified up to 58,924 votes that have no source justification. Specifically, it claims: 1. 17,852 ballots with certified votes have no .TIF ballot images or .SHA authentication files 2. 3,125 ballots were double scanned and counted twice 3. 20,713 ballots from ten tabulators which have no tabulator documents 4. 17,234 Presidential race votes were backfilled from unknown ballots to reconcile Dec. 3 results
apnews.com/article/fact-check-2020-fulton-county-georgia-20713-votes-504105499507apnews.com/article/fact-check-election-georgia-fulton-county-audit-346686441033I agree the double scanning is concerning, but not enough to change the election outcome, nor was it found to be malicious fraudulent activity. You liars have an advantage, it is much easier to spread a lie than to debunk it. You will just move on to the next lie. All I did was provide a link of an active complaint that was submitted to the Georgia SEB. Instead of addressing the complaint you call me a liar and throw out a couple of links from a liberal fact checker.
BTW the fact checkers debunking efforts are pretty weak.
The first link claims false but instead of debunking the claim, they speculate to why it could be false. The second link claims missing context. Then states regardless of the claim it still would not have been enough votes to overturn the election.
Just another example where that demonstrates your inability to process any information that does not fit your narrative.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 29, 2024 16:29:34 GMT
Honest question for you trump fanatics: What is with his obsession with Hannibal Lecter ??.....who he refers to as the "late great Hannibal Lecter" ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Do we really need a 'way too old' , fat geezer in the WH with nonsensical ramblings like this and rapidly declining mental acuity ? Transcript: DONALD TRUMP: Has anybody seen Silence of the Lambs? Hannibal Lecter. How great an actor was he? It's not a nonsensical rambling. He's drawing a parallel between other countries emptying their insane asylums and jails. These people will prey on US citizens the way LEcter preyed on people.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 29, 2024 20:02:09 GMT
Good apology try and excuse as usual. For those 3 digit IQ folks not brainwashed by Newsmax, Fox etc. it's just more unhinged gibberish from the guy.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 29, 2024 21:40:45 GMT
Good apology try and excuse as usual. For those 3 digit IQ folks not brainwashed by Newsmax, Fox etc. it's just more unhinged gibberish from the guy. Not apologzing, just the truth to anyone who has not been hornswaggled by the "news".
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Post by aufan on Jul 29, 2024 21:52:25 GMT
All I did was provide a link of an active complaint that was submitted to the Georgia SEB. Instead of addressing the complaint you call me a liar and throw out a couple of links from a liberal fact checker.
BTW the fact checkers debunking efforts are pretty weak.
The first link claims false but instead of debunking the claim, they speculate to why it could be false. The second link claims missing context. Then states regardless of the claim it still would not have been enough votes to overturn the election.
Just another example where that demonstrates your inability to process any information that does not fit your narrative.
You have claimed that the election was stolen through fraud. This is the lie. You keep posting things that are not evidence that the election was stolen through fraud, asking me to debunk them. When I debunk them, the source is left wing. You are the one claiming that the election was stolen through fraudulent votes. Why do you keep posting your “doubts”. Post the hard evidence please. The funny thing is, if you were actually moderate in your approach, and said that you have doubts about the integrity of the election and want things investigate… I would totally agree with you. But you instead are claiming, as fact, that the election was stolen, and there simply isn’t hard evidence of that. Your misunderstanding of the accuracy of cellphone location data, or how poll tapes aren’t official voting records is not evidence of fraud.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 29, 2024 22:13:07 GMT
Ok cpa, Thanks.I also was trying to get opinions about the 1/6 rioters that damaged US property and injured Capital law officers. As trump declares, are they great 'American patriots' and 'hostages' among those convicted ?
Do you and extreme right wing propaganda outlets confirm trump's claim ?
As far as our other topic....it just seems that with every ridiculous, moronic, hateful, evil, blatantly false ,disrespectful, incinerating and ignorant thing he says in his unhinged rants, admirers and apologists, like yourself, claim he meant something else or never said it at all. It's a long and ever increasing pattern. I think he's an extreme weirdo and getting worse...very dangerous.
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Post by aufan on Jul 29, 2024 23:25:02 GMT
Honest question for you trump fanatics: What is with his obsession with Hannibal Lecter ??.....who he refers to as the "late great Hannibal Lecter" ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Do we really need a 'way too old' , fat geezer in the WH with nonsensical ramblings like this and rapidly declining mental acuity ? Transcript: DONALD TRUMP: Has anybody seen Silence of the Lambs? Hannibal Lecter. How great an actor was he? It's not a nonsensical rambling. He's drawing a parallel between other countries emptying their insane asylums and jails. These people will prey on US citizens the way LEcter preyed on people. Trump is confusing political asylum with insane asylums. The difference is tricky to be fair. Do you understand the difference?
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