|
|
Post by GatorGrad on Dec 8, 2016 14:32:53 GMT
NCAA President Mark Emmert:
"I'm kind of old school about that, I guess. It would be really fun to have a model where those five champions all got a crack at moving forward."
|
|
|
|
Post by Bevo on Dec 8, 2016 15:06:20 GMT
Now there is DECISIVE LEEADERSHIP! /sarc
Maybe, it Emmert had tweeted it himself?
|
|
|
|
Post by bluehen on Dec 8, 2016 17:01:58 GMT
Seriously, can anyone think of any sport, anywhere where the league or conference champions within that sport are not permitted to compete for the championship of that sport ?
This CFP event is absolutely NOT a championship playoff.
|
|
|
|
Post by ajbuckeye on Dec 9, 2016 17:25:29 GMT
The SWAC and MEAC do not have autobids for the FCS playoffs. With this being the case we would assume the championship of the FCS Playoff is a mythical Champion:)
I think having 24 teams in the playoffs is way to many. There are several teams that have 4 and 5 losses that qualify. This completely diminishes the regular season as you can lay an egg multiple times and still be OK for the playoffs.
|
|
|
|
Post by Hero on Dec 9, 2016 17:34:14 GMT
The SWAC and MEAC do not have autobids for the FCS playoffs. With this being the case we would assume the championship of the FCS Playoff is a mythical Champion:) I think having 24 teams in the playoffs is way to many. There are several teams that have 4 and 5 losses that qualify. This completely diminishes the regular season as you can lay an egg multiple times and still be OK for the playoffs. Right |
|
|
|
Post by bluehen on Dec 9, 2016 17:54:16 GMT
Clarification necessary : mostly for aj
The SWAC would have an auto bid but elects to play in a bowl game instead of the NCAA championship.
The MEAC has, indeed, been a long time AQ conference but now has elected to send its champion to a bowl game and lost its AQ status accordingly. Its other teams are permitted to participate in the playoffs as 'at large' selections. ( NC A&T was eliminated in Rd 1 this year)
The IVY league does not permit post season football.
So there is a difference between a 'choice' not to participate in the championship and being systematically excluded.
|
|
|
|
Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Dec 9, 2016 21:46:11 GMT
The SWAC and MEAC do not have autobids for the FCS playoffs. With this being the case we would assume the championship of the FCS Playoff is a mythical Champion:) I think having 24 teams in the playoffs is way to many. There are several teams that have 4 and 5 losses that qualify. This completely diminishes the regular season as you can lay an egg multiple times and still be OK for the playoffs. Ironic that the only ones complaining are not associated in any way with FCS, D-II or D-III playoffs. |
|
|
|
Post by bluehen on Dec 9, 2016 23:59:17 GMT
4-4 loss teams
1-5 loss team
Many of the losses of playoff teams were to FBS teams.
|
|
|
|
Post by ajbuckeye on Dec 10, 2016 1:33:49 GMT
4-4 loss teams 1-5 loss team Many of the losses of playoff teams were to FBS teams. FCS teams rarely play more than one game vs FBS and the 5 loss team lost all five games vs FCS. There is no way I would ever want a 24 team playoff like the FCS has. It completely diminishes the regular season. Look at NCAA hoops, as long as teams from the power 5 conferences keep their losses in the single digits they are pretty much in the tournament. I rarely watch a lot of the regular season basketball because the games simply don't mean much. Look at the DUke North Carolina hoops game vs Ohio State Michigan. Sure Duke and NC is a big game but at the end of the day both teams go to the tournament and the outcome of this game has almost no bearing on a championship. On the other hand the Ohio State Michigan game almost always has Big 10 championships and sometimes National Championships on the line. When you look at the end of the season after the tournament, which sport would does the best job crowning a champion. Basketball who had an unranked 7 seed UCONN go on a roll to win a title or the FBS which could potentially have one loss P5 or no loss G5 be left on the outside. Last year Ohio State was a one loss team left on the outside and I was OK with it. At this point I am fine with the 4 team playoff as Ohio State has been on both sides of the fence. I think I would be fine with an 8 team playoff but still would be probably be against autobitds. Since we are probably looking at 4 teams for the next few years, the one change I would make is to keep the selection process as is and if a team like Houston who scheduled tough runs the table can get in. But also have a 4 team playoff for the G5 teams and also crown a G5 champion. |
|
|
|
Post by bluehen on Dec 10, 2016 13:27:15 GMT
I sure agree with you, aj, about the bloated NCAA basketball championship. There are too many 'at large' entries. These conference tournaments used to determine the champions are a big factor in that. I also agree that D1 doesn't need a 24 team football championship with only 10 leagues competing.....same as D1 FBS...10 leagues. A 16 team field ( champs + 6 at large) for both the FBS and FCS gives all the champs a shot and yields an undisputed national champion.
Sorry, but a 'voted-opinionated', very exclusive, TV driven, 4 team event is not a true FBS national championship.
|
|
|
|
Post by stumpystew on Dec 12, 2016 15:03:51 GMT
The reason for the 24 teams and the "bloated" basketball tournament is the NCAA rule that at least 50% of the teams must be at large. That is how the FCS got to 24, more conferences qualified (had enough teams) or elected to participate.
|
|
|
|
Post by GatorGrad on Dec 12, 2016 15:19:26 GMT
The reason for the 24 teams and the "bloated" basketball tournament is the NCAA rule that at least 50% of the teams must be at large. That is how the FCS got to 24, more conferences qualified (had enough teams) or elected to participate. What is the reasoning for requiring that 50% of the teams must be at-large? That doesn't seem necessary. |
|
|
|
Post by ajbuckeye on Dec 12, 2016 16:36:52 GMT
I sure agree with you, aj, about the bloated NCAA basketball championship. There are too many 'at large' entries. These conference tournaments used to determine the champions are a big factor in that. I also agree that D1 doesn't need a 24 team football championship with only 10 leagues competing.....same as D1 FBS...10 leagues. A 16 team field ( champs + 6 at large) for both the FBS and FCS gives all the champs a shot and yields an undisputed national champion. Sorry, but a 'voted-opinionated', very exclusive, TV driven, 4 team event is not a true FBS national championship. No doubt a 4 team playoff for 128 teams is exclusive and eliminates 75% of the G5 teams even before the season started. I do think if Houston ran the table this year they would have been in over Washington. There is a clear separate between the G5 and P5 teams at the moment and to me it just makes sense to have a G5 4 team tournament until they decide to expand the playoffs again. In my perfect world, I am OK with the four team tournament and the selection process as it is light years better than what we had in the BCS era. It does create a few more openings for the post season play and I think really enhances the regular season. If your in a P5 conference and you lose one game then you will be in the mix in terms of the playoff. I was 100% behind going from a 2 team to a 4 team playoff. I think I would be up for the 8 team playoff but don't feel nearly as strong about it. The more teams you add to the postseason the less importance you put on the regular season and at the moment, no sport has a better regular season than College Football. If we would get to 8 I would also like it to remain the 8 best teams and keep the autobids out of the equation. I am totally against a 4 loss team sneaking into a CCG and some how getting into post season. Hen question for you. How are the at large entries selected in the FCS. Is based on computer ratings or is it opinionated like hoops? |
|
|
|
Post by bluehen on Dec 12, 2016 21:34:13 GMT
aj,
opinionated.
|
|
|
|
Post by ajbuckeye on Dec 13, 2016 21:56:55 GMT
I think when selecting the at large teams, the opinionated approach is better than a computer program determining the spots simply because it is human opinion to what is important in the computer selection process. I much prefer a committee with a defined set of guidelines to make the decision as they can take situations into consideration that may have been an over sight by the computer. The CFP does have a guideline and the committee has been consistent with it thus far at least in my mind. On the other hand, I thought the BCS was a disaster in its process because it actually had a significant component being the coaches voting for themselves as part of the process. |
|
