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Post by ajbuckeye on Sept 11, 2017 13:43:57 GMT
Pac12: 19 - 4 (4-1 vs P5) USC posted an impressive win with over 600 yds of offense. Washington held serve as well. Rosen had a 5 TD day and the conferense overall has been impressive with the exception of the Arizona's
BIG 20 - 6 (6 - 5 vs P5) Make or break week for the Big 10 with 7 P5 OOC games going 4 - 3. Penn St looks to be the real deal as they continue to live up to lofty expectations. The exact opposite can be said of Ohio St who was completely dominated by Oklahoma on both sides of the ball. To defend Hen's position, how can this team be in the top 25 let alone top 10 after the ugly first half of week one and the shellacking they took on Saturday night? Overall the conference has performed reasonably well as the bottom looks to be a bit better then the ESPN pundits give them credift for.
SEC 21 - 4 (3 - 4 vs P5) Only bright spot of the week was UGA with a nice win over ND. I did not see the Auburn/Clemson game but initially thought that Auburn would be the best bet to take out Bama. Total offense for Auburn was 117 yds and at the moment it will take a lot more than a transfer QB to fix this offense. Arky laid an egg against TCU so it was a 0 - 2 week vs the P5 and a bunch of wins against the FCS. The separation from Alabama and the rest of the field continues to widen.
ACC 16 - 7 (4 - 6 vs P5) Clemson is starting to convince me more and more that there program is in elite state. After the losses they took on offense they clearly have a defense that is lights out. Once the offense gets up to speed could be very dangerous. Clearly on a crash course with another appearance in the CFP. Duke didn't just beat NW it was a domination of a team that many picked to be second in the B1G West.
B12 - 13 -6 (2 - 3 vP5) B12 was on the ropes of making the conference relevant in the CFP and TCU and Oklahoma both answered the bell big time. Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, and TCU have been impressive. Keep a watch out for WVU as Grier looked amazingly good and will be a tough out for all of the contenders.
Current Top 4
Alabama
Oklahoma
Clemson
Penn St
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Post by bluehen on Sept 11, 2017 13:53:23 GMT
A sub .500 SEC again ? ( vs so called P5s)
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Post by EvilVodka on Sept 12, 2017 16:31:21 GMT
Clemson is starting to convince me more and more that there program is in elite state. After the losses they took on offense they clearly have a defense that is lights out. Once the offense gets up to speed could be very dangerous. Clearly on a crash course with another appearance in the CFP. I've been telling you for awhile that Clemson is for real, even after they stomped Ohio State in the playoffs. Dabo is for real, and winning a NC will only give them more confidence and boost recruiting |
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Post by EvilVodka on Sept 12, 2017 16:34:02 GMT
BIG 20 - 6 (6 - 5 vs P5) Make or break week for the Big 10 with 7 P5 OOC games going 4 - 3. Penn St looks to be the real deal as they continue to live up to lofty expectations. The exact opposite can be said of Ohio St who was completely dominated by Oklahoma on both sides of the ball. To defend Hen's position, how can this team be in the top 25 let alone top 10 after the ugly first half of week one and the shellacking they took on Saturday night? Overall the conference has performed reasonably well as the bottom looks to be a bit better then the ESPN pundits give them credift for. Right this down AJ!!!! I still think the B1G conference is the best this year...although PAC 12 isn't looking too shabby ACC is down a little. SEC is still recovering |
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Post by bluehen on Sept 12, 2017 21:31:02 GMT
Clemson is starting to convince me more and more that there program is in elite state. After the losses they took on offense they clearly have a defense that is lights out. Once the offense gets up to speed could be very dangerous. Clearly on a crash course with another appearance in the CFP. I've been telling you for awhile that Clemson is for real, even after they stomped Ohio State in the playoffs. Dabo is for real, and winning a NC will only give them more confidence and boost recruiting After counting up Clemson's 36 opening day NFLers ( tied for 3rd most ) 'elite' is now common knowledge |
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Post by tigercpa on Sept 14, 2017 18:40:02 GMT
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Post by tigercpa on Sept 14, 2017 19:01:06 GMT
Another
Jailbreak LB blitz and Stidham has nowhere to go with the ball - gotta throw it away in that situation
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Post by EvilVodka on Sept 14, 2017 19:43:55 GMT
can they do that against Lamar Jackson though? It will be a good match up
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Post by tigercpa on Sept 14, 2017 20:54:20 GMT
can they do that against Lamar Jackson though? It will be a good match up Yes, I think they can. Jackson is gonna Jackson, but Clemson's DL will eat too.
While Jackson is better this year, Louisville overall is worse. Compounding the downgrade at coordinator (loss of Grantham and Charlie Strong's recruits), Louisville must replace its best playmakers on this side of the ball. Louisville lost its best defensive lineman in nose tackle DeAngelo Brown, top tackler in linebacker Keith Kelsey, best pass rusher in Devonte Fields, and its best and most versatile athlete in safety Josh Harvey-Clemons.
Also, Jaire Alexander is a great player who is hurt and in pain management. His father said unless he's 100% he won't play. Without Alexander, the whole defense struggles even more. Alexander’s absence made things much easier for UNC to score lots points against LVs weak pass rush and inexperienced secondary.
In addition to the drop off found in Louisville’s defense, Louisville lost a bunch on offense, too. The Cardinals were nothing close to a one man team a year ago; now there’s an argument to be made that they are. Clemson’s front 7 is better than a year ago, Louisville’s offensive line is even less experienced, and the Cards lost most of their top skill players.
OK, so the argument then becomes, well, Clemson lost a lot on offense too. That's very true. But, Clemson had enough talented depth behind its departed stars from a year ago to mitigate a huge drop off, not to mention years of staff and scheme continuity. Louisville’s has neither luxury. But, they do have Jackson and Petrino, which is a scary combo.
I think there are enough factors in Clemson's favor to win, even on the road.
This whole Louisville football "thing" is FSUs fault anyway.  Jimbo went to Taco Bell Stadium with a half-assed gameplan, lack of focus and handed Jackson the Heisman.
Doubtful Clemson turns the ball over 5 times (including twice inside the 5)...Bryant is different from Deshaun in the risk taking regard, and the OCs won't put him in that position on the road. I expect Clemson will come out with heavy run / short pass preference to get Bryant in a rhythm on the road.
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Post by rupturedduck on Sept 15, 2017 11:47:56 GMT
Ohio State has problems,starting with the QB Barrett,he can/t pass gas,3 new secondary players are pathetic.WR cab't get separation,LB
s out of pos on runs,Urban better do something ASAP tho the next 3 games are cup cake city and JT will look like Tom Brady,better get 1 or 2 more QB's in N0W.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Sept 15, 2017 13:28:25 GMT
I've been telling you for awhile that Clemson is for real, even after they stomped Ohio State in the playoffs. Dabo is for real, and winning a NC will only give them more confidence and boost recruiting After counting up Clemson's 36 opening day NFLers ( tied for 3rd most ) 'elite' is now common knowledge It's in the archives. Not sure when I will need to pull this one out:) Big week this week for the B12. They have 5 P5 games this week. Another good week for them and it will go a long way when the CFP make their picks. |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Sept 15, 2017 13:30:26 GMT
can they do that against Lamar Jackson though? It will be a good match up Yes, I think they can. Jackson is gonna Jackson, but Clemson's DL will eat too.
While Jackson is better this year, Louisville overall is worse. Compounding the downgrade at coordinator (loss of Grantham and Charlie Strong's recruits), Louisville must replace its best playmakers on this side of the ball. Louisville lost its best defensive lineman in nose tackle DeAngelo Brown, top tackler in linebacker Keith Kelsey, best pass rusher in Devonte Fields, and its best and most versatile athlete in safety Josh Harvey-Clemons.
Also, Jaire Alexander is a great player who is hurt and in pain management. His father said unless he's 100% he won't play. Without Alexander, the whole defense struggles even more. Alexander’s absence made things much easier for UNC to score lots points against LVs weak pass rush and inexperienced secondary.
In addition to the drop off found in Louisville’s defense, Louisville lost a bunch on offense, too. The Cardinals were nothing close to a one man team a year ago; now there’s an argument to be made that they are. Clemson’s front 7 is better than a year ago, Louisville’s offensive line is even less experienced, and the Cards lost most of their top skill players.
OK, so the argument then becomes, well, Clemson lost a lot on offense too. That's very true. But, Clemson had enough talented depth behind its departed stars from a year ago to mitigate a huge drop off, not to mention years of staff and scheme continuity. Louisville’s has neither luxury. But, they do have Jackson and Petrino, which is a scary combo.
I think there are enough factors in Clemson's favor to win, even on the road.
This whole Louisville football "thing" is FSUs fault anyway. Jimbo went to Taco Bell Stadium with a half-assed gameplan, lack of focus and handed Jackson the Heisman.
Doubtful Clemson turns the ball over 5 times (including twice inside the 5)...Bryant is different from Deshaun in the risk taking regard, and the OCs won't put him in that position on the road. I expect Clemson will come out with heavy run / short pass preference to get Bryant in a rhythm on the road.
This is a completely different challenge for Clemson. There Defense will likely be facing the best offense they will see the entire season. On the other side of it, the offense gets to go against a team that gave up 40 to Purdue. This should definitely be one of the more entertaining games of the weekend. |
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Post by tigercpa on Sept 15, 2017 14:42:22 GMT
Yes, I think they can. Jackson is gonna Jackson, but Clemson's DL will eat too.
While Jackson is better this year, Louisville overall is worse. Compounding the downgrade at coordinator (loss of Grantham and Charlie Strong's recruits), Louisville must replace its best playmakers on this side of the ball. Louisville lost its best defensive lineman in nose tackle DeAngelo Brown, top tackler in linebacker Keith Kelsey, best pass rusher in Devonte Fields, and its best and most versatile athlete in safety Josh Harvey-Clemons.
Also, Jaire Alexander is a great player who is hurt and in pain management. His father said unless he's 100% he won't play. Without Alexander, the whole defense struggles even more. Alexander’s absence made things much easier for UNC to score lots points against LVs weak pass rush and inexperienced secondary.
In addition to the drop off found in Louisville’s defense, Louisville lost a bunch on offense, too. The Cardinals were nothing close to a one man team a year ago; now there’s an argument to be made that they are. Clemson’s front 7 is better than a year ago, Louisville’s offensive line is even less experienced, and the Cards lost most of their top skill players.
OK, so the argument then becomes, well, Clemson lost a lot on offense too. That's very true. But, Clemson had enough talented depth behind its departed stars from a year ago to mitigate a huge drop off, not to mention years of staff and scheme continuity. Louisville’s has neither luxury. But, they do have Jackson and Petrino, which is a scary combo.
I think there are enough factors in Clemson's favor to win, even on the road.
This whole Louisville football "thing" is FSUs fault anyway. Jimbo went to Taco Bell Stadium with a half-assed gameplan, lack of focus and handed Jackson the Heisman.
Doubtful Clemson turns the ball over 5 times (including twice inside the 5)...Bryant is different from Deshaun in the risk taking regard, and the OCs won't put him in that position on the road. I expect Clemson will come out with heavy run / short pass preference to get Bryant in a rhythm on the road.
This is a completely different challenge for Clemson. There Defense will likely be facing the best offense they will see the entire season. On the other side of it, the offense gets to go against a team that gave up 40 to Purdue. This should definitely be one of the more entertaining games of the weekend. Yeah, LVs defense is bad on raw stats, but worse when you look at opponent-adjusted stats...see BillC's results here:
www.footballstudyhall.com/pages/2017-louisville-advanced-statistical-profile
Their D ranks 102 in rushing success and 110 in efficiency...2 weeks still a farily small sample though.
It's sort of like Vick against FSU back in 1999. He was clearly the best player on the field, but FSU was superior on both lines, and so it negated Vick's advantage. Even 2 FSU turnovers wasn't enough.
Did Watson help us overcome a talent gap vs. Alabama? Absolutely, but that gap was not as pronounced as the one we will see between Clemson and Louisville.
Clemson isn’t just better in the trenches, they’re better everywhere. Except for that whole quarterback position thing, where I think the Heisman winner might have a slight edge…
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Post by tigercpa on Sept 17, 2017 18:42:36 GMT
I think Card Chronicle summed it up pretty succinctly....there was no turning point, no controversial call...Louisville simply got whipped by a much better team.
Bryant outplayed the reigning Heisman winner all night. Jackson was very frustrated and he let his emotion show.
How bad was it? One twitter poster offered this:
"The coach's true freshman son (Will Sweeney) is playing WR in a top 15 game on the road" - that was Lousiville's night.
Other than a few missed blocks and one overthrow by Bryant, I have no complaints. Blown coverage assignments by 2nd and 3rd stringers late in the 4th quarter, but those will come with time.
Clemson needs one of its TEs to step up and take the leadership role, that's the only weak piece when comparing last year v. this year...Leggett was a great TE.
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Post by EvilVodka on Sept 17, 2017 18:54:25 GMT
I think Card Chronicle summed it up pretty succinctly....there was no turning point, no controversial call...Louisville simply got whipped by a much better team.
Bryant outplayed the reigning Heisman winner all night. Jackson was very frustrated and he let his emotion show.
How bad was it? One twitter poster offered this:
"The coach's true freshman son (Will Sweeney) is playing WR in a top 15 game on the road" - that was Lousiville's night.
Other than a few missed blocks and one overthrow by Bryant, I have no complaints. Blown coverage assignments by 2nd and 3rd stringers late in the 4th quarter, but those will come with time.
Clemson needs one of its TEs to step up and take the leadership role, that's the only weak piece when comparing last year v. this year...Leggett was a great TE.
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Jimbo went to Taco Bell Stadium with a half-assed gameplan, lack of focus and handed Jackson the Heisman.