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Post by ajbuckeye on Jan 10, 2018 18:45:05 GMT
Even though the BIG teams were not invited to the invitational the conference had a huge impact on who won The BIG got the referee assignment for the Championship Game and they certainly made the most of their opportunity to make an impact on who won. Check this link below www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/1/8/16866514/georgia-alabama-referees-missed-calls-national-championship-facemaskThere were 5 calls or missed calls that had a huge impact on this game and they all went against UGA. The facemask by Alabama and the play where the Alabama player pushed the head of an UGA player to the ground well after the play was over were simply inexcusable. Alabama needs to send those guys to Disney.
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Post by EvilVodka on Jan 10, 2018 19:14:56 GMT
I thought the reffing was weird...I don't know how the refs missed the facemask
There was a kick return where an Alabama player tackled the Georgia player high, almost a clothesline. That should have been a foul as well
The head push? I wouldnt have called that one
The punt block should have been reviewed
I didnt even see the false start of the Alabama WR during the 4th down play
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 10, 2018 20:39:05 GMT
Like Duke in basketball
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Post by doc on Jan 10, 2018 20:58:36 GMT
It borders on criminal. I was watching the OSU/Michigan state game on Sunday. Normally Izzo gets all the calls but he wasn't on Sunday and he didn't like it one bit. I don't mind Izzo but to watch the MSU play you'd think his players never commit a foul or violation. He's incredulous every time a whistle is blown. it was nice to watch the Buckeyes beat them, and beat them pretty soundly. Now they need to follow up the big win with a solid effort on Thursday vs Maryland. Back to Duke - they're the Notre Dame of basketball for me.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jan 10, 2018 21:38:34 GMT
I thought the reffing was weird...I don't know how the refs missed the facemask There was a kick return where an Alabama player tackled the Georgia player high, almost a clothesline. That should have been a foul as well The head push? I wouldnt have called that one The punt block should have been reviewed I didnt even see the false start of the Alabama WR during the 4th down play I was thinking the same thing about the Kick return when it happened which was another no call. I still think the head push was pretty bad especially since the play was over and it was right in front of the referee. The 4th down offiside play was hard to spot initially because it was the far outside receiver but the side judge should have been right next to him and he should have seen it. I totally get the missed call on the offisdes for the blocked punt as the player was moving forward prior to the ball being snapped but in slow me he clearly did not cross the LOS prior to the ball being snapped.
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Post by Hero on Jan 11, 2018 1:06:44 GMT
After every play we should allow a few minutes to review all tapes in super slow and make every call. When the game is over, every play should be reviewed again and if a call is missed the game would be replayed.
We must have perfection.
And don't use B1G referees, they are proven to be imperfect.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 11, 2018 2:45:28 GMT
After every play we should allow a few minutes to review all tapes in super slow and make every call. When the game is over, every play should be reviewed again and if a call is missed the game would be replayed. We must have perfection. And don't use B1G referees, they are proven to be imperfect. lol I thought the B1G refs were helping GEORGIA!
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Post by Hero on Jan 11, 2018 3:22:41 GMT
After every play we should allow a few minutes to review all tapes in super slow and make every call. When the game is over, every play should be reviewed again and if a call is missed the game would be replayed. We must have perfection. And don't use B1G referees, they are proven to be imperfect. lol I thought the B1G refs were helping GEORGIA! Laughing www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NNo3o6v-yw
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Post by doc on Jan 11, 2018 14:17:06 GMT
After every play we should allow a few minutes to review all tapes in super slow and make every call. When the game is over, every play should be reviewed again and if a call is missed the game would be replayed. We must have perfection. And don't use B1G referees, they are proven to be imperfect. lol I thought the B1G refs were helping GEORGIA! I don't know, I didn't watch much of the game but by all accounts there were 5 huge calls that went in Alabama's favor and had several been called, the outcome would have probably been different. I didn't see so I'm only going by what the 'experts' on the radio had to say. I'll also say that 4th down TD pass that tied the game was one of the luckiest plays of the season. I don't think he was throwing to the guy who caught it and the Georgia defender missed tipping the ball by about a fingernail.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 11, 2018 17:17:22 GMT
lol I thought the B1G refs were helping GEORGIA! I don't know, I didn't watch much of the game but by all accounts there were 5 huge calls that went in Alabama's favor and had several been called, the outcome would have probably been different. I didn't see so I'm only going by what the 'experts' on the radio had to say. I'll also say that 4th down TD pass that tied the game was one of the luckiest plays of the season. I don't think he was throwing to the guy who caught it and the Georgia defender missed tipping the ball by about a fingernail. That last TD was the only score that I didn't see. I started watching from bed in the second half, and fell asleep for a bit in the 4th quarter. Woke up in time to see the missed FG and the OT. On the facemask missed call that all are crowing about, I didn't think it was that big a deal. Watching it, "real time", I remember thinking.. "Oh, that looks like a facemask, but... oh, no... the hand is on the jersey". The defender let go of the facemask pretty quickly, and as the RB was spinning around, it was hard to tell if he actually had hold of the facemask, depending on your angle. On slow-mo, it's obvious the mask was grabbed, briefly... but, I can easily see how a ref missed it. There were definitely a couple of calls in the first half that benefitted UGA. But, nothing egregious.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 11, 2018 17:34:50 GMT
The offsides on the blocked punts was a HUGE call. Again, watching it live, I thought he was offside. When I saw the replay, I was thinking.. "oh... wow, I don't think he'd crossed the line yet??". He started early, but.... he was a couple of yards back, so.. hadn't crossed the line.
it was a QUICK call... but, one where the refs USUALLY get it right. That was probably the BIGGEST miss of the game. In watching the Gif's, it's apparent the center was just a hair late in snapping the ball. Pretty much everyone else was moving.
Had they called illegal procedure (which COULD have been called) the play would've been stopped, with NO block. So, I'm not sure calling it correctly would have changed the outcome that much. Had they ignored the offensive movement and allowed the block? That would obviously have been HUGE.. but, that would have been a blown call too. A worse one that what was made.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jan 11, 2018 17:56:13 GMT
I don't know, I didn't watch much of the game but by all accounts there were 5 huge calls that went in Alabama's favor and had several been called, the outcome would have probably been different. I didn't see so I'm only going by what the 'experts' on the radio had to say. I'll also say that 4th down TD pass that tied the game was one of the luckiest plays of the season. I don't think he was throwing to the guy who caught it and the Georgia defender missed tipping the ball by about a fingernail. That last TD was the only score that I didn't see. I started watching from bed in the second half, and fell asleep for a bit in the 4th quarter. Woke up in time to see the missed FG and the OT. On the facemask missed call that all are crowing about, I didn't think it was that big a deal. Watching it, "real time", I remember thinking.. "Oh, that looks like a facemask, but... oh, no... the hand is on the jersey". The defender let go of the facemask pretty quickly, and as the RB was spinning around, it was hard to tell if he actually had hold of the facemask, depending on your angle. On slow-mo, it's obvious the mask was grabbed, briefly... but, I can easily see how a ref missed it. There were definitely a couple of calls in the first half that benefitted UGA. But, nothing egregious. The facemask was no big deal, seriously? ? His head was turned to the side and was held for 3 steps. I have no dog in this race but stating that UGA benefited more from the ref calls is almost laughable. Just do an internet search on bad calls in the championship game. You will find that maybe 99.999% of the articles and opinions are against your view of the game. If you could provide us a similar link that shows calls going the other way then maybe we can put a bit more credibility into your opinion.
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Post by EvilVodka on Jan 11, 2018 20:41:07 GMT
I don't know, I didn't watch much of the game but by all accounts there were 5 huge calls that went in Alabama's favor and had several been called, the outcome would have probably been different. I didn't see so I'm only going by what the 'experts' on the radio had to say. I'll also say that 4th down TD pass that tied the game was one of the luckiest plays of the season. I don't think he was throwing to the guy who caught it and the Georgia defender missed tipping the ball by about a fingernail. That last TD was the only score that I didn't see. I started watching from bed in the second half, and fell asleep for a bit in the 4th quarter. Woke up in time to see the missed FG and the OT. On the facemask missed call that all are crowing about, I didn't think it was that big a deal. Watching it, "real time", I remember thinking.. "Oh, that looks like a facemask, but... oh, no... the hand is on the jersey". The defender let go of the facemask pretty quickly, and as the RB was spinning around, it was hard to tell if he actually had hold of the facemask, depending on your angle. On slow-mo, it's obvious the mask was grabbed, briefly... but, I can easily see how a ref missed it. There were definitely a couple of calls in the first half that benefitted UGA. But, nothing egregious. The facemask call looked like it went from a facemask to a horsecollar tackle and then he let go...that call would have been a first down
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Post by Bevo on Jan 11, 2018 22:28:39 GMT
The facemask was no big deal, seriously? ? His head was turned to the side and was held for 3 steps. Three steps? Yea, I'd like to see a GIF for that one. Looked damn brief from what I recall. I'll look at it again later this evening. Hard to see videos here at work. I have no dog in this race but stating that UGA benefited more from the ref calls is almost laughable. I didn't say UGA benefitted more. That would be laughable. All I'm saying was, there were times in the FIRST HALF, when I thought the refs might be favoring UGA. Most of the 'controversial' calls were in the second half. Just do an internet search on bad calls in the championship game. You will find that maybe 99.999% of the articles and opinions are against your view of the game. Well, there you go.. 99.999% of the internet sports sites disagree, so... I've got no right to my opinion. Sheesh. I looked at some of those stories, 99% of them lead off with the missed offsides on the blocked punt as their LEAD example of a play that severly hurt Georgia's chances. And, 100% of those articles are DEAD WRONG about that. It was a play that could have changed things, but... the CORRECT CALL would have been, "illegal procedure"... dead play, re-kick. NOT that big a deal.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 11, 2018 23:53:17 GMT
The facemask call looked like it went from a facemask to a horsecollar tackle and then he let go...that call would have been a first down Ok.. the GIF of this play is on the same website AJ first posted. It was pretty much just the way I remembered. 1) The Bama player didn't go from Facemask to Horse-collar to 'LETTING GO". He went from facemask to Horse-collar to HAND FULL OF JERSEY. That matters because, if you look in the GIF, the Ref making the call is BEHIND the play. He had the same angle we all had when first watching it. He NEVER saw the facemask and not really even the Horse-collar (which was VERY short). By the time the runner was turned around, he saw a hand full of jersey. In the FIRST slo-mo replay I saw on TV, that's exactly what I saw. It was only on the opposite angle replay (Same as the GIF) that the facemask was clearly visible. That's why I give the ref a little slack. 2) The facemask was NOT held for "three steps"... as some has said. It was more like a step and a half, two steps AT MOST. The horse-collar was maybe a half-step. It was VERY short. The reason I say it was "no big deal" is... it was early in the 3rd quarter (when I was still awake!). UGA punted, giving Bama a long field... which Bama covered quickly for their first TD. If the penalty had been called, UGA would have had a 1st down, at their own 40. Maybe Bama stops them on the next series? Maybe not. Who knows. There was a LOT of time still remaining in the game. That missed call (and, it clearly was) wasn't a 'game changer' by itself. But, that's just MY OPINION... 99.999% of the internet thinks I'm wrong. For the record, a) The push in the back of the head, I DO remember seeing, although I was groggy then. I thought it looked bad when it happened and that Bama was 'lucky' it wasn't called. Could have been called. I actually liked the non-call, but... wouldn't have begrudged an official who did call it. It was a stupid thing to do. Looks bad on the GIF too. b) The early move on the TD play was clearly a blown call. Inexplicable that a ref wouldn't see that? But, it was the opposite side of the field, had ZERO affect on the actual play. And, Bama would have still had another play. Who's to say they wouldn't have scored anyway from 5 yards further back? As I said before, I didn't see that play live... don't know if it was noticed, or discussed. I do know it DIDN'T AFFECT the play.
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