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Post by tigercpa on Oct 29, 2015 19:11:40 GMT
www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/10/28/9630824/sec-west-sec-east-division-rankings-advanced-stats?_ga=1.95326236.1834615417.1442549664
The SEC is still the best conference in college football, but it's clear now that the conference was overrated in the offseason, as statistically, it is much closer to its peers in the ACC and Big Ten than previously expected.
But the SEC West is incredible! Yes, that's still true. But the SEC East is drastically pulling down the rest of the conference. In fact, according to Bill Connelly's S&P+ ratings, the SEC East is the worst power five division, and it's closer in strength to the AAC West than it is to even the Big Ten East.
Rank Division S&P+ 1 SEC West 11.9 2 ACC Atlantic 10 3 B1G East 8 4 B1G West 6.7 5 Pac-12 South 6.4 6 ACC Coastal 5.2 7 Pac-12 North 4.2 8 SEC East 4 9 AAC West 0.4 10 MAC West -0.2 11 MWC Mountain -1.9 12 AAC East -2.6 13 CUSA East -4.5 14 MAC East -5.3 15 MWC West -7.6 16 CUSA West -10.9
The disparity between the SEC divisions is striking, but it makes sense given the records between the two so far this season. The SEC West is 8-1 against the East so far this season.
The East only has non-conference losses to Western Kentucky and Oklahoma, but its teams have also played just about nobody -- they are 1-1 against power conference opponents -- and had close calls against Eastern Kentucky, UConn, East Carolina, Bowling Green and Middle Tennessee. Florida is the only team in the East that's ranked in the AP poll, and Georgia is the only other one receiving votes.
But the SEC East can take solace in knowing that if the Big 12 North were still around, it would be far, far worse. Those teams -- Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa State, Kansas State, Missouri and Colorado -- would have an S&P+ of -4.7, according to Connelly, which would rank 14th. That's worse than both AAC divisions, the MAC West, the MWC Mountain and Conference USA East.
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Post by bluehen on Oct 29, 2015 21:25:44 GMT
Maybe do a 'best division' list after the PSEGs. Everybody said the SEC W was all dominant last season until it got badly exposed and spanked around in the post season. If quality of talent is any indicator of quality of play than the SEC E & W are about the same because they produce about the same amount of NFL players.
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Post by Bevo on Oct 30, 2015 1:11:20 GMT
Past performance is no guaranteed prediction of future performance. you have NO IDEA how many current SEC East or West members will be in the NFL.
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Post by bluehen on Oct 30, 2015 13:49:53 GMT
Past performance is no guaranteed prediction of future performance. you have NO IDEA how many current SEC East or West members will be in the NFL. Will you wager me that the NFL player count in 3 years will show a huge numerical advantage from SEC W programs ?
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Post by Bevo on Oct 30, 2015 14:25:28 GMT
Will you wager me that the NFL player count in 3 years will show a huge numerical advantage from SEC W programs ?
For played in THIS class? Yea... I would. Depending on how you define "huge". I think the West has more NFL caliber players this year.
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Post by bluehen on Oct 30, 2015 20:25:00 GMT
Will you wager me that the NFL player count in 3 years will show a huge numerical advantage from SEC W programs ?
For played in THIS class? Yea... I would. Depending on how you define "huge". I think the West has more NFL caliber players this year.
I would contend that in any year the W count would be 10% or less more than the E count. According to 2015 opening day roster counts by ESPN ( including practice squad players) " 39- LSU 39- Alabama 39- Florida 35 -Georgia 32- Auburn 26- Tennessee 26- S.Carolina 24- Texas A&M 23- Missouri 19- Miss State 16-Arkansas 16- Ole Miss 14- Kentucky 09- Vanderbilt Looks like 185 West and 172 East....OR 4.8% difference. Maybe it's coaching or something else but the two divisions are quite equal in talent ...at least by NFL standards. So Bevo are we on for a 2018 count for $1000 over 10 % difference - you win. Under 10% - I win.
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Post by Bevo on Oct 31, 2015 2:19:22 GMT
For played in THIS class? Yea... I would. Depending on how you define "huge". I think the West has more NFL caliber players this year.
I would contend that in any year the W count would be 10% or less more than the E count. According to 2015 opening day roster counts by ESPN ( including practice squad players) " 39- LSU 39- Alabama 39- Florida 35 -Georgia 32- Auburn 26- Tennessee 26- S.Carolina 24- Texas A&M 23- Missouri 19- Miss State 16-Arkansas 16- Ole Miss 14- Kentucky 09- Vanderbilt Looks like 185 West and 172 East....OR 4.8% difference. Maybe it's coaching or something else but the two divisions are quite equal in talent ...at least by NFL standards. So Bevo are we on for a 2018 count for $1000 over 10 % difference - you win. Under 10% - I win. Looking at total players in the NFL averages out the differences over many years. Let's bet on how many players from THIS year's teams are still in the NFL in 5 years. I'll wager you $1000 that the West has more.
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Post by Hero on Oct 31, 2015 21:53:51 GMT
Maybe do a 'best division' list after the PSEGs. Why include exhibition games?
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Post by Hero on Oct 31, 2015 21:56:00 GMT
Past performance is no guaranteed prediction of future performance. you have NO IDEA how many current SEC East or West members will be in the NFL. Will you wager me that the NFL player count in 3 years will show a huge numerical advantage from SEC W programs ? LMAO
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