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Post by Bevo on Feb 13, 2019 17:09:15 GMT
Kentucky lost a heartbreaker, at home, to LSU last night on yet another "controversial non-call"... It's a pattern for UK. A couple of years ago, they lost a Final Four game against Wisconsin when three refs all missed a shot clock violation. The shooter clearly had the ball in his hands with ZERO on the shot clock. Refs said, "Sorry... that's not reviewable". The rule was changed the next year. Now, it IS reviewable.
Last night, LSU had 6 seconds to go the length of the floor to try to win. A shot was thrown up, missed... but, the ball was dancing around the rim when an LSU big man tipped it in. It was VERY CLEAR that the ball, AND his hand were well inside "the cylinder"... a very clear case of offensive interference. The refs reviewed to see whether ball was released before the buzzer. So, they SAW the interference. But, told Cal, "Basket interference is NOT reviewable". Sorry, you lose.
In the post game interview, Cal said... "Kentucky is like Wilt Chamberlain, we cause rule changes".
In the greater picture, I'm actually GLAD that Kentucky lost. As we all know, because of the BLOATED post-season tournament, the regular season in college basketball means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Kentucky was on a 10 game win streak. It's actually BETTER for Cal to get that monkey off their backs before the tournament. Now, he can beat on them some more in practice and use this as a motivating factor. It's pretty unheard of in college football, for it to be BETTER to lose, than to win. (The only case I can remember is Bama losing to Auburn last year?) But, that's because EVERY game matters.
What happened after than was even more sad. Louisville was just wiping the floor with Duke for the first 75% of that game. It was AWESOME. I very nearly posted something here last night about Chris Mack being the greatest coach in the game today. The Cards were up by 23 with about 10 to play. Still up by 20 with 8 to play. It was STILL 19 points with about 6 to play. But, the wheels came TOTALLY OFF the wagon and Duke just stormed back to beat them. It might have been the saddest thing I've seen on a basketball court. Louisville couldn't do ANYTHING! They couldn't inbound the ball.. couldn't pass, wouldn't shoot... It was embarrassing. During a critical time out with about 1:30 to play, Mack was just standing there.. saying nothing, while one of his assistants was talking to the players. I couldn't believe it.
I mean.. really.. your team is DISINTEGRATING in front of a wild home town crowd, and you've got NOTHING TO SAY? It was awful.
Oh well... Mack has the Nation's #2 recruiting class coming in next year.. and that was all done BEFORE he started winning with this rag tag bunch of nothing.
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Post by tigercpa on Feb 13, 2019 20:04:21 GMT
Reminds me of Clemson Duke game in 1991-92 at Clemson. Tigers were up 70-51 in second half. Coach K benched his starting five and Duke went on an 8-0 run to get back in the game, and the wheels came completely off and they lost 98-97.
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Post by bluehen on Feb 14, 2019 3:58:44 GMT
There are 347 NCAA D1 men's basketball teams, Bevo. Only 19.5 % are permitted to compete for a national championship. The regular season might mean more than you perceive, Bevo. 19.5 % is not all that bloated compared to many other team sports.
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Post by doc on Feb 14, 2019 14:10:58 GMT
I've always said a game is 40 minutes long so if you want to make sure you don't get screwed by the refs, don't let it be close at the end - it's your own fault for not taking care of business before the last seconds of the game. This, of course, does not apply to games involving Ohio State - all refs are out to screw them!
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Post by Bevo on Feb 14, 2019 18:45:27 GMT
There are 347 NCAA D1 men's basketball teams, Bevo. Only 19.5 % are permitted to compete for a national championship. The regular season might mean more than you perceive, Bevo. 19.5 % is not all that bloated compared to many other team sports. It's WAY bloated.... no question. Teams can lose HALF their regular season games and still make it. It's like that for entertainment purposes.... and, for money. Nothing to do with competitive fairness.
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Post by tigercpa on Feb 14, 2019 19:40:17 GMT
Yep...apparently a .500 record, or worse, is golden. 3 teams have made the NCAA tournament with 11-18 records. 2 with 12-18 1 with 13-18 12 more with sub .500 records 6 more with .500 records All 16 seeds all lost 1st round
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Post by bluehen on Feb 14, 2019 20:33:22 GMT
There are 347 NCAA D1 men's basketball teams, Bevo. Only 19.5 % are permitted to compete for a national championship. The regular season might mean more than you perceive, Bevo. 19.5 % is not all that bloated compared to many other team sports. It's WAY bloated.... no question. Teams can lose HALF their regular season games and still make it. It's like that for entertainment purposes.... and, for money. Nothing to do with competitive fairness.
Your beef should be about how leagues determine their champion ( reg season records vs tournaments) as that could occasional yield a mediocre record in the 68 team field
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Post by Bevo on Feb 14, 2019 20:55:07 GMT
It's WAY bloated.... no question. Teams can lose HALF their regular season games and still make it. It's like that for entertainment purposes.... and, for money. Nothing to do with competitive fairness.
Your beef should be about how leagues determine their champion ( reg season records vs tournaments) as that could occasional yield a mediocre record in the 68 team field
No Hen... I've seen teams with near 50-50 records INVITED in.. not just division winners.
It doesn't matter in BB. They can play games on back to back nights. They can have over-kill if they want. Harder to justify in a sport played weekly.
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Post by bluehen on Feb 15, 2019 3:07:18 GMT
Can you give a bunch of examples of .500 teams 'invited' to the NCAA tournament that didn't win their conference's tournament ?
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Post by Bevo on Feb 15, 2019 4:21:24 GMT
Can you give a bunch of examples of .500 teams 'invited' to the NCAA tournament that didn't win their conference's tournament ? I said, "Near 0.500".. 2018 - Bama 19-15, OU 18-13, 2017 - Three teams at 19-14 It's normal
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Post by bluehen on Feb 15, 2019 13:13:25 GMT
Very generous use of 'near'
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Post by Bevo on Feb 15, 2019 13:35:58 GMT
Very generous use of 'near' They all have a "5 handle" on the front.
Bama had won only 55.9% of their games.
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Post by stumpystew on Feb 15, 2019 14:37:08 GMT
These "near .500" teams all come from power conferences, because "they play a tough schedule" while teams with much better records go to the NIT, because they are from non-power conferences and "don't play anybody." Sounds like the logic for the current football playoff where an undefeated team is left out, but a non division, non conference champ is invited. All about money
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Post by Bevo on Feb 15, 2019 15:51:05 GMT
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Post by bluehen on Feb 19, 2019 14:32:17 GMT
200% yes - TV money
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