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Post by ajbuckeye on Nov 19, 2019 14:37:02 GMT
#1 tOSU W#12 #17 - Clearly most dominant team both sides of the ball
#2 LSU W #6 #11 #16 #25 - Very good offense and very suspect defense giving up over 600 yards to the #75 team?  #3 Clemson W#24 - Close to moving them up to #2 as they are looking very very good
#4 PSU W #10 #18 L#14 - They have there chance this week but I don't see it happening (or even being close)
#5 UGA W #11 #14 #15 L#70 Lot of nice wins but the loss is getting worse and worse
#6 Bama W#24 L#2 They got a top 25 win but will lose that and the QB loss is devastating
#7 Minny W#4 L#18 Losing a close one at Kinnick is nothing to be ashamed of. Still have everything in front of them
#8 OU W #16 #25 L#35 Very nice comeback but that defense is going to bite them
#9 Oregon W#23 L#15 The loss to Auburn is looking worse every week
#10 Utah No top 25 Wins L#23 Nothing on this resume gets you excited Note: Rankings wer from the Massey composite
Committee top 10 will be
LSU
OSU Clemson UGA Bama
Oregon Utah
PSU OU Minny
When will the committee use the eye test on the LSU defense? Will a dominating win by OSU over PSU be enough on the eye test or will the committee be watching the BAMA West Whatever game so that they can use the eye test on the BAMA QB to keep them in that top 5 spot? Will the committee ever recognize that the P12 contenders have no good wins to take to the bank? Will the committee take the Tua injury into consideration or will it just be BAMA as usual?
The CFP predictor gives them a 44% chance to get in. If they win out, there resume will likely include 1 win over a top 25 team which would be Auburn hovering around 20. That's assuming they win.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 19, 2019 15:26:55 GMT
OSU continues to dominate. My #1 team.
Clemson's defense has been dominant since the first snap of the year. Offense now rolling and demolishing people.
or the stats test on that LSU defense?
When Tua went out they led 35-7. It ended 38-7. 3 points in the second half ain't good for the eye test.
Louisville's going bowling!
VT @ Pitt is must see TV. VT controls their own destiny, so naturally that means they will lose this week. After that Duke loss, Fuentes was a dead man walking. Nice mid-season turnaround.
Utah is a very solid team. They should (but won't) get the same QB sympathy / eye test for the loss to USC from the committee.
Oregon's resume probably doesn't take too much heat for that late game loss to Auburn in week 0 at a neutral site.
PSU at 4 seems generous.
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Post by doc on Nov 19, 2019 15:44:18 GMT
I think the Pitt/VT game is in Blacksburg.
I'm fine with the rankings being...
LSU - has the best wins with Bama, Florida and Auburn
OSU - no games closer than 24 points, so glad Georgia had a 'better' QB
Clemson - only one blip with UNC but has been dominant since
Georgia - Carolina loss is embarrassing but they have a great defense and know who they are offensively
Oregon - Very solid defense and a first round NFL draft pick at QB
Alabama - they just aren't as good without Tua, Auburn game will be a challenge
Utah - PAC 12 expert actually thinks the Utes will beat Oregon
Minnesota - Loss to Iowa was tough but they still control their destiny
Penn State - Can't put them above Minnesota at this point but will if they beat Ohio State
Oklahoma - Their defense has regressed. They've given up close to 120 points their last 3 games
Ohio State has a great chance to get to #1 should they win out. They have 3 top 15 games left - should they continue to dominate as they have I would think that could catapult them to the top spot. We'll see - just be in the top 4 and I'll be content.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 19, 2019 15:48:37 GMT
I think the Pitt/VT game is in Blacksburg. I'm fine with the rankings being... LSU - has the best wins with Bama, Florida and Auburn OSU - no games closer than 24 points, so glad Georgia had a 'better' QB Clemson - only one blip with UNC but has been dominant since Georgia - Carolina loss is embarrassing but they have a great defense and know who they are offensively Oregon - Very solid defense and a first round NFL draft pick at QB Alabama - they just aren't as good without Tua, Auburn game will be a challenge Utah - PAC 12 expert actually thinks the Utes will beat Oregon Minnesota - Loss to Iowa was tough but they still control their destiny Penn State - Can't put them above Minnesota at this point but will if they beat Ohio State Oklahoma - Their defense has regressed. They've given up close to 120 points their last 3 games Ohio State has a great chance to get to #1 should they win out. They have 3 top 15 games left - should they continue to dominate as they have I would think that could catapult them to the top spot. We'll see - just be in the top 4 and I'll be content. Tend to agree with that, Doc. As of now, and with reasonable predictions for the future, I think 2-3 are set - OSU and Clemson will have a game of the century in Phoenix. this game will easily be the hardest of the playoff. The 1-4 matchup harder to say at this point, with so many 1 loss teams and potential for movement to the 4th spot. |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Nov 19, 2019 16:51:53 GMT
I think the Pitt/VT game is in Blacksburg. I'm fine with the rankings being... LSU - has the best wins with Bama, Florida and Auburn OSU - no games closer than 24 points, so glad Georgia had a 'better' QB Clemson - only one blip with UNC but has been dominant since Georgia - Carolina loss is embarrassing but they have a great defense and know who they are offensively Oregon - Very solid defense and a first round NFL draft pick at QB Alabama - they just aren't as good without Tua, Auburn game will be a challenge Utah - PAC 12 expert actually thinks the Utes will beat Oregon Minnesota - Loss to Iowa was tough but they still control their destiny Penn State - Can't put them above Minnesota at this point but will if they beat Ohio State Oklahoma - Their defense has regressed. They've given up close to 120 points their last 3 games Ohio State has a great chance to get to #1 should they win out. They have 3 top 15 games left - should they continue to dominate as they have I would think that could catapult them to the top spot. We'll see - just be in the top 4 and I'll be content. Tend to agree with that, Doc. As of now, and with reasonable predictions for the future, I think 2-3 are set - OSU and Clemson will have a game of the century in Phoenix. this game will easily be the hardest of the playoff. The 1-4 matchup harder to say at this point, with so many 1 loss teams and potential for movement to the 4th spot. Based on what tOSU has in front of them I think there is a very good chance they jump LSU. I certain hope they do because I think tOSU and Clemson are playing the best right now and would prefer to see the top 2 teams on the opposite side of the bracket.
Knowing how the committee works.
Making the following assumptions
OSU and Clemson wins out Oregon beats Utah If LSU wins SEC Clemson LSU in Tempe
Ohio State Oregon Atlanta
If UGA beats LSU Ohio State LSU Tempe
UGA Clemson Atlanta
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Post by Hero on Nov 19, 2019 17:21:37 GMT
The last time Mack Jones started for BAMA his QB rating was 200+.
The reports of our death are a bit exaggerated.
I remember (painfully) Ohio State doing pretty well with the next man up plan.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Nov 19, 2019 18:15:23 GMT
The last time Mack Jones started for BAMA his QB rating was 200+. The reports of our death are a bit exaggerated. I remember (painfully) Ohio State doing pretty well with the next man up plan. I don't doubt that Mack Jones can do it. They have more than Tua working against them. They will likely finish with only one win vs a team in the top 25 and that team will be at about 20. If Oregon and Utah win out the regular season they will have extra win conference title and win vs a top 10 team. It does bode well for Bama if they hand it to Auburn. Hard to tell what the committee will use but I sure if it is Oregon I would not be surprised if they focused on common opponents. |
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Post by doc on Nov 19, 2019 18:49:42 GMT
Jones certainly has the players around him to be successful. But he's not playing Arkansas or Western Carolina on November 30 - the Western Kentucky QB had very similar stats against Arkansas (plus being a former Razorback he may have had a little extra incentive)! Anyway, with Nix and Jones at QB I think the defenses may dominate that game and just wait for one of the QB's to make a huge mistake.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 19, 2019 20:56:48 GMT
Tend to agree with that, Doc. As of now, and with reasonable predictions for the future, I think 2-3 are set - OSU and Clemson will have a game of the century in Phoenix. this game will easily be the hardest of the playoff. The 1-4 matchup harder to say at this point, with so many 1 loss teams and potential for movement to the 4th spot. Based on what tOSU has in front of them I think there is a very good chance they jump LSU. I certain hope they do because I think tOSU and Clemson are playing the best right now and would prefer to see the top 2 teams on the opposite side of the bracket.
Knowing how the committee works.
Making the following assumptions
OSU and Clemson wins out Oregon beats Utah If LSU wins SEC Clemson LSU in Tempe
Ohio State Oregon Atlanta
If UGA beats LSU Ohio State LSU Tempe
UGA Clemson Atlanta
I'm fine with that, but doesn't the committee keep geography in mind? Clem / LSU in Atlanta? |
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Post by Hero on Nov 20, 2019 14:47:41 GMT
The last time Mack Jones started for BAMA his QB rating was 200+. The reports of our death are a bit exaggerated. I remember (painfully) Ohio State doing pretty well with the next man up plan. I don't doubt that Mack Jones can do it. They have more than Tua working against them. They will likely finish with only one win vs a team in the top 25 and that team will be at about 20. If Oregon and Utah win out the regular season they will have extra win conference title and win vs a top 10 team. It does bode well for Bama if they hand it to Auburn. Hard to tell what the committee will use but I sure if it is Oregon I would not be surprised if they focused on common opponents. Everything you said is true but as I have said before the committee is simply a poll. Sometimes polls don’t follow logic. |
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Post by bluehen on Nov 21, 2019 4:40:46 GMT
" The committee is simply a poll "
Such a very true story there, Hero. And it's why this CFP event isn't remotely a legitimate FBS championship playoff. Big time CF just can't get away from the ranking/opinion/voting mythical stuff....150 years of it and counting.
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