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Post by EvilVodka on Aug 12, 2020 14:17:17 GMT
...according to a Twitter source. Take it for what it's worth
Also, Michigan still practicing.
I think you're going to see some revolt in the Big 10 decision
If Nebraska says F-it and plays in the Big XII this season, how long before Michigan and Iowa are clamoring, and then how long before Ohio State decides they want to play after all?
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 12, 2020 14:46:53 GMT
This is going to cost in terms of recruiting as well.
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Post by EvilVodka on Aug 12, 2020 15:01:40 GMT
This is going to cost in terms of recruiting as well. If the Big 10 tries to block Nebraska from playing their season, I expect huge fall out
The Nebraska-Big 10 marriage has been bad...Nebraska has been tucked away into the "western division", while the Big 10 went out and got huge eastern markets for #13 and #14. The Cornhuskers have become irrelevant to the point of extinction
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Post by doc on Aug 12, 2020 15:50:45 GMT
Here's the thing...
Baseball has already seen outbreaks of this stuff. They also have seen players leave hotels and be sent back to their home city. I think the Cardinals have played about 10 games less than everyone else - same with the Marlins. These are guys who at least are making $500,000 a year, not college kids on scholarship.
The NBA and NHL have gone the bubble route - the players are quarantined in Orlando, Toronto and Edmonton. I think that's worked fairly well but they're stuck in hotels for about 60 days depending on how long the playoffs last.
College football is a different animal all together. Plus, you can't just play college football and cancel all the other fall sports. If one sport plays, they all have to play. Some teams would probably do very well distancing their players, my guess is many would only have on-line classes. But we're talking about having 18-22 year olds being completely disciplined for 4-5 months, it's a recipe for disaster. I want to see college football as much as anyone but there's no one they'll be able to keep all these athletes under wraps for 4-5 months. There will be outbreaks. And none of the kids are making $500,000 plus to play.
I work at a university. I'm going to lunch on Friday with a member of our athletic staff to talk about a gift with a potential donor. He specifically asked that we go to a restaurant with outside seating or he can't go. He is around athletes and he has to be careful not to expose them to the virus. He said I know we can keep our athletes safe but can we depend on the teams we're playing making the same precautions. And as has been pointed out, the athletes are at a very low risk for serious complications, but what about the faculty or university staff that they may come in contact with?
I think it's going to take a ballsy move on the part of individual conferences to go on with the season knowing the consequences that could happen should something other than smooth sailing occur. Right now everyone is saying the BIG 10 and PAC 12 have destroyed themselves but what happens if outbreaks occur throughout the conferences that do decide to play? I want to see college football but I don't think it will happen.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 12, 2020 16:41:31 GMT
Here's the thing... what happens if outbreaks occur throughout the conferences that do decide to play? . Speaking of "perspective", it's important to keep this number in mind: The % of 15-24 year old people who have died from COVID so far. It's 0.0005% That means, 99.9995% haven't. These odds are, literally in line with being hit by lighting. Do we cancel seasons because they play outside and MIGHT get hit by lightning? No. If there are outbreaks, they'll quarantine the sick players, monitor the rest, and keep going. The 'sick' players will almost all be back playing again in 2 weeks. And, yes.. I know the argument. They might infect their parents. So, how many of their parents (adults 35-54) have died? 0.01%. The risks are not zero. But, they really are VERY low. There is no guarantee we EVER have a vaccine that can stop this. At some point, we're going to have to learn to accept these very low risks, and continue living our lives. Treatment is getting better, which is driving these numbers even lower. Many people are starting to come to grips with the numbers and deciding to move forward. Just as many (maybe more, I don't know) are still not willing to accept ANY risk and want to stay holed up. Ok... let them. But, those of us who like to live want to get on doing it. |
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Post by jameshowell on Aug 12, 2020 16:47:32 GMT
It would take litigation for Nebraska to play in the Big 12; no time. The Big 12 already said no to BYU. The Big 12 released their new schedule this morning. Six of the ten teams have their OOC team set.
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Post by jameshowell on Aug 12, 2020 16:54:59 GMT
I expect BYU and NMSU to pull the plug soon; BYU is down to 3 games and NMSU 4. Army is also down to 4, but they "possibly" could take Old Dominion's place in CUSA. Liberty is the only independent still with a reasonable number of games (8).
BYU has Navy, Houston, and North Alabama.
NMSU has UAB, UTEP, Texas State, and Louisiana.
There are only 4 openings for Big 12 OOC games and 6 for the ACC.
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Post by doc on Aug 12, 2020 17:01:03 GMT
Here's the thing... what happens if outbreaks occur throughout the conferences that do decide to play? . Speaking of "perspective", it's important to keep this number in mind: The % of 15-24 year old people who have died from COVID so far. It's 0.0005% That means, 99.9995% haven't. These odds are, literally in line with being hit by lighting. Do we cancel seasons because they play outside and MIGHT get hit by lightning? No. If there are outbreaks, they'll quarantine the sick players, monitor the rest, and keep going. The 'sick' players will almost all be back playing again in 2 weeks. And, yes.. I know the argument. They might infect their parents. So, how many of their parents (adults 35-54) have died? 0.01%. The risks are not zero. But, they really are VERY low. There is no guarantee we EVER have a vaccine that can stop this. At some point, we're going to have to learn to accept these very low risks, and continue living our lives. Treatment is getting better, which is driving these numbers even lower. Many people are starting to come to grips with the numbers and deciding to move forward. Just as many (maybe more, I don't know) are still not willing to accept ANY risk and want to stay holed up. Ok... let them. But, those of us who like to live want to get on doing it. I hope they play. But I also work around and with faculty. I spent 2 hours yesterday on a Zoom call going over procedures and questions surrounding the return of students to campus. We’re a small school and faculty are very nervous about having live classes. Imagine what it’s like at much larger institutions. And if they discover the need to go remote again they’ll have much bigger issues than playing football. I’ve worked at universities for close to 30 years and faculty don’t think athletics are the most important thing on a campus, they think they are. |
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Post by jameshowell on Aug 12, 2020 17:24:57 GMT
American Conference is starting to hedge on whether to play. CUSA is expected to make a decision by Friday with the odds of cancellation increasing by the day.
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Post by jameshowell on Aug 12, 2020 17:26:28 GMT
Big South cancelled the season, but are allowing their teams to play up to 4 non-conference games for contractual obligations. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, running the football department and conditioning athletes for 1-4 games.
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Post by EvilVodka on Aug 12, 2020 19:42:24 GMT
I expect BYU and NMSU to pull the plug soon; BYU is down to 3 games and NMSU 4. Army is also down to 4, but they "possibly" could take Old Dominion's place in CUSA. Liberty is the only independent still with a reasonable number of games (8). BYU has Navy, Houston, and North Alabama. NMSU has UAB, UTEP, Texas State, and Louisiana. There are only 4 openings for Big 12 OOC games and 6 for the ACC. I think BYU will fight to the bitter end...they should be calling C-USA and see if they can fill in for Old Dominion |
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Post by Bevo on Aug 12, 2020 22:34:01 GMT
Speaking of "perspective", it's important to keep this number in mind: The % of 15-24 year old people who have died from COVID so far. It's 0.0005% That means, 99.9995% haven't. These odds are, literally in line with being hit by lighting. Do we cancel seasons because they play outside and MIGHT get hit by lightning? No. If there are outbreaks, they'll quarantine the sick players, monitor the rest, and keep going. The 'sick' players will almost all be back playing again in 2 weeks. And, yes.. I know the argument. They might infect their parents. So, how many of their parents (adults 35-54) have died? 0.01%. The risks are not zero. But, they really are VERY low. There is no guarantee we EVER have a vaccine that can stop this. At some point, we're going to have to learn to accept these very low risks, and continue living our lives. Treatment is getting better, which is driving these numbers even lower. Many people are starting to come to grips with the numbers and deciding to move forward. Just as many (maybe more, I don't know) are still not willing to accept ANY risk and want to stay holed up. Ok... let them. But, those of us who like to live want to get on doing it. I hope they play. But I also work around and with faculty. I spent 2 hours yesterday on a Zoom call going over procedures and questions surrounding the return of students to campus. We’re a small school and faculty are very nervous about having live classes. Imagine what it’s like at much larger institutions. And if they discover the need to go remote again they’ll have much bigger issues than playing football. I’ve worked at universities for close to 30 years and faculty don’t think athletics are the most important thing on a campus, they think they are. I have a couple of friends who work at local convenience stores. One is 84 years old, and has NOT MISSED A DAY of work in the past 5 months. If he got the virus, he never knew it. Of course, that's the norm for about half of the people who get it. This is NOT the plague. Getting sick is NOT an automatic death sentence. It's a spin of the wheel, with odds higher than 99% in your favor. |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 13, 2020 2:05:29 GMT
Here's the thing... what happens if outbreaks occur throughout the conferences that do decide to play? . Speaking of "perspective", it's important to keep this number in mind: The % of 15-24 year old people who have died from COVID so far. It's 0.0005% That means, 99.9995% haven't. These odds are, literally in line with being hit by lighting. Do we cancel seasons because they play outside and MIGHT get hit by lightning? No. If there are outbreaks, they'll quarantine the sick players, monitor the rest, and keep going. The 'sick' players will almost all be back playing again in 2 weeks. And, yes.. I know the argument. They might infect their parents. So, how many of their parents (adults 35-54) have died? 0.01%. The risks are not zero. But, they really are VERY low. There is no guarantee we EVER have a vaccine that can stop this. At some point, we're going to have to learn to accept these very low risks, and continue living our lives. Treatment is getting better, which is driving these numbers even lower. Many people are starting to come to grips with the numbers and deciding to move forward. Just as many (maybe more, I don't know) are still not willing to accept ANY risk and want to stay holed up. Ok... let them. But, those of us who like to live want to get on doing it. Unfortunately what you are stating is not part of any main stream media report. I have a very good buddy who teaches at Alter HS in Dayton and he has thrown out some statistics very similar to what you have provided and the risk factor for the athletes is very limited. I ceretainly understand Docs position but you need to be consistent. If the student athletes can't participate and all classes are on line then how can you allow the students to live in dorms. |
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 13, 2020 12:34:42 GMT
I expect BYU and NMSU to pull the plug soon; BYU is down to 3 games and NMSU 4. Army is also down to 4, but they "possibly" could take Old Dominion's place in CUSA. Liberty is the only independent still with a reasonable number of games (8). BYU has Navy, Houston, and North Alabama. NMSU has UAB, UTEP, Texas State, and Louisiana. There are only 4 openings for Big 12 OOC games and 6 for the ACC. I think BYU will fight to the bitter end...they should be calling C-USA and see if they can fill in for Old Dominion Ask BYU to pick up the 6 ACC OOC games, giving them a 9-game season. |
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Post by doc on Aug 13, 2020 12:42:45 GMT
Speaking of "perspective", it's important to keep this number in mind: The % of 15-24 year old people who have died from COVID so far. It's 0.0005% That means, 99.9995% haven't. These odds are, literally in line with being hit by lighting. Do we cancel seasons because they play outside and MIGHT get hit by lightning? No. If there are outbreaks, they'll quarantine the sick players, monitor the rest, and keep going. The 'sick' players will almost all be back playing again in 2 weeks. And, yes.. I know the argument. They might infect their parents. So, how many of their parents (adults 35-54) have died? 0.01%. The risks are not zero. But, they really are VERY low. There is no guarantee we EVER have a vaccine that can stop this. At some point, we're going to have to learn to accept these very low risks, and continue living our lives. Treatment is getting better, which is driving these numbers even lower. Many people are starting to come to grips with the numbers and deciding to move forward. Just as many (maybe more, I don't know) are still not willing to accept ANY risk and want to stay holed up. Ok... let them. But, those of us who like to live want to get on doing it. Unfortunately what you are stating is not part of any main stream media report. I have a very good buddy who teaches at Alter HS in Dayton and he has thrown out some statistics very similar to what you have provided and the risk factor for the athletes is very limited. I ceretainly understand Docs position but you need to be consistent. If the student athletes can't participate and all classes are on line then how can you allow the students to live in dorms. If all classes go remote there's a very high chance the campus will be cleared like it was in March. That would be catastrophic for the university I work at - we'd lose $1 million dollars per week. We've already had staff take voluntary separation, wages have been cut, retirement benefits have been put on hold. We had a Zoom meeting yesterday and as students return to campus the bottom line is we must do everything in our power to make sure we get through this semester with them on campus. They also just announced yesterday that all Big East fall sports have been cancelled with hopes of holding them in the spring semester. As I mentioned earlier, we have a 50 page manual of guidelines to follow - this is through consultation with Tri Health who staffs our student health center. This will be a huge test. I know the stats suggest the chances for students having a fatal case of the virus are very low but there isn't a university in the country that wants to be the one in the news for a COVID death. |
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