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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 12, 2020 17:51:03 GMT
Not sure about all of you but I simply am just fed up with all what I view as politicking going at many of our major college institutions.
There is simply no reasonable argument that can be made that somehow our college athletes will be more susceptible to catching covid 19 compared to the rest of the student population. These college athletes would get tested every day. They can enforce social distancing on them in every aspect of there lives during this season. All players remain in the same dorm, eat at the same cafeteria, isolate from the student population.... Considering all classes are on-line this would be pretty simple to do. Then when it comes to game time they will be playing against players that would be under a similar protocol.
So now what do they do with the rest of the student body??? They force all on-line classes on virtually if not all students but then they decide to pack them back into the dorms like sardines. If you have concerns about student athletes with all of the safety features that could be put in place then how in the HELL CAN YOU HAVE NO CONCERN FOR THE STUDENT POPULATION? 
There a 2 things that I feel are driving this:
Money money money. The universities need to get the almighty dollar and greed is clearly in play over health concerns of the student population. Living on campus generates as much money as tuition does for in state students.
We have this thing call the presidential election coming up. Not sure if many of you are aware but our University faculty\staff\president... tend be very very very liberal. What is the one thing that is mention 3,000,000 times on TV? Trump mishandled the covid or chinese virus. Gee what could these grossly liberal universities do to enhance this view point. Gee let me guess LETS CANCEL THE FOOTBALL SEASON. That will send a message. Regardless of your position on Trump this should frustrate all of us.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 12, 2020 18:03:51 GMT
Agree on both points. My opinion is the money issue is more between P5 / G5 / FCS, etc. At least to a large extent.
The longer this goes, the more prevalent the money issue will be.
How many schools can go potentially 1.5 years with no revenue?
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Post by doc on Aug 12, 2020 18:22:06 GMT
Not sure about all of you but I simply am just fed up with all what I view as politicking going at many of our major college institutions.
There is simply no reasonable argument that can be made that somehow our college athletes will be more susceptible to catching covid 19 compared to the rest of the student population. These college athletes would get tested every day. They can enforce social distancing on them in every aspect of there lives during this season. All players remain in the same dorm, eat at the same cafeteria, isolate from the student population.... Considering all classes are on-line this would be pretty simple to do. Then when it comes to game time they will be playing against players that would be under a similar protocol.
So now what do they do with the rest of the student body??? They force all on-line classes on virtually if not all students but then they decide to pack them back into the dorms like sardines. If you have concerns about student athletes with all of the safety features that could be put in place then how in the HELL CAN YOU HAVE NO CONCERN FOR THE STUDENT POPULATION?
There a 2 things that I feel are driving this:
Money money money. The universities need to get the almighty dollar and greed is clearly in play over health concerns of the student population. Living on campus generates as much money as tuition does for in state students.
We have this thing call the presidential election coming up. Not sure if many of you are aware but our University faculty\staff\president... tend be very very very liberal. What is the one thing that is mention 3,000,000 times on TV? Trump mishandled the covid or chinese virus. Gee what could these grossly liberal universities do to enhance this view point. Gee let me guess LETS CANCEL THE FOOTBALL SEASON. That will send a message. Regardless of your position on Trump this should frustrate all of us.
I can only speak from what I’ve seen from the university where I work but I’ll say that they have gone to great lengths to make sure our students are as safe as possible. I’m not going to list everything but there was a task force that put together a plan to return over the past 5 months and the document has close to 50 pages. You are right in that the faculty and staff are the most concerned. Staff has been given permission to continue working remotely but faculty need to be accessible for the students - this makes them very nervous. We have plans for in class instruction with class sizes being reduced and there will also be on-line classes. Students will not return after Thanksgiving because we have no control over where they go and what they do over the break. Finals will be done remotely. Older faculty, unhealthy faculty and faculty with compromised immune systems have every reason to be concerned. I think that’s the biggest issue here. And I’ll add that when students were sent home last semester we had to refund close to $7 million in room and board fees, that was devastating for a school our size and would be catastrophic if it happens in the fall. I’m glad I’m retiring in 16 months! |
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Post by Hero on Aug 12, 2020 19:49:22 GMT
The majority of what is going on in our country is politically motivated.
The Democrats would have us think of ANYTHING rather than the fact they have NO candidate.
If the cities have to burn to accomplish their goal...burn baby burn.
I am glad my grandfather did not live to see this sad day.
The one thing we can say is we have the MOST HONEST PRESIDENT EVER.
I know this because he has been the subject of every conceivable investigation honest and otherwise 24/7/365.
They have found NOTHING.
My hope and prayer is every thinking person will be able to fight through this smoke screen.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 12, 2020 20:07:49 GMT
My daughter is going to UC and she has several of her friends going to OSU as freshmen this upcoming school fall semester. From what I gather from UC, they are certainly doing what they can to try to make this semester work. They have designated rooms and set aside for those that test positive for the covid. This is plan for the moment unless it this spreads like wild fire which certainly is a possibility. In the end you still have 18 year old kids coming in from all over to country to share dorm rooms. My daughter has a suite with 6 people in it and she will be sharing a bedroom. Multiply her situation a thousand times over and that is what UC will be dealing with. We need to get back to normalcy at some point and that is why I am good with sending her at the moment.
Now apply this to Ohio State who will have roughly twice as many on campus students as UC. If they are so concerned about the football season and the covid that they cancel the season, then what they are putting their student students though is either grossly negligent or it does not have the same impact on their political agenda.
I really try to limit political discussions especially on social media formats because it tends to serve no other purpose than to frustrate me. My facebook account is deleted and never use twitter. This decision by the BIG has really turned frustration into anger because I truly believe there is a political agenda behind this decision.
Glad that you get to retire in 16 months. I know I am a bit younger but probably looking at another 10 years. Thanks for the recommendation on the shows as I will need something to fill the void.
I reaaly would love to see the SEC, ACC, and B12 make a go of it. I will need to search for some teams to latch on to. WVU in the BIG12 is a given. In ACC maybe North Carolina and Virgina (or anybody who plays Clemson or ND). The SEC is going to be a challenge. With my well known hatred for the conference I am going to need to latch on the one or 2 teams. I thinking UK as they are the northern most SEC team. It is hard to root against coach O and the Ohio Boy that lead the tigers last year. I also have nieces that graduated from USC and Florida.
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Post by Hero on Aug 12, 2020 20:29:02 GMT
I reaaly would love to see the SEC, ACC, and B12 make a go of it. I will need to search for some teams to latch on to. WVU in the BIG12 is a given. In ACC maybe North Carolina and Virgina (or anybody who plays Clemson or ND). The SEC is going to be a challenge. With my well known hatred for the conference I am going to need to latch on the one or 2 teams. I thinking UK as they are the northern most SEC team. It is hard to root against coach O and the Ohio Boy that lead the tigers last year. I also have nieces that graduated from USC and Florida. Come on AJ, give BAMA a chance.  |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 12, 2020 22:24:58 GMT
I reaaly would love to see the SEC, ACC, and B12 make a go of it. I will need to search for some teams to latch on to. WVU in the BIG12 is a given. In ACC maybe North Carolina and Virgina (or anybody who plays Clemson or ND). The SEC is going to be a challenge. With my well known hatred for the conference I am going to need to latch on the one or 2 teams. I thinking UK as they are the northern most SEC team. It is hard to root against coach O and the Ohio Boy that lead the tigers last year. I also have nieces that graduated from USC and Florida. Come on AJ, give BAMA a chance. At this point I would much rather see BAMA win it all as to scrappping the season. That being said rooting for BAMA is not part of my DNA. |
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Post by Bevo on Aug 12, 2020 22:27:59 GMT
I thinking UK as they are the northern most SEC team. Coach Stoops is an Ohio native! :-) If you can spell C-A-T-S, you can be a UK fan! |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 13, 2020 1:46:32 GMT
I thinking UK as they are the northern most SEC team. Coach Stoops is an Ohio native! :-) If you can spell C-A-T-S, you can be a UK fan! As well as get your degree  CATS it is! |
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 13, 2020 12:37:15 GMT
My daughter is going to UC and she has several of her friends going to OSU as freshmen this upcoming school fall semester. From what I gather from UC, they are certainly doing what they can to try to make this semester work. They have designated rooms and set aside for those that test positive for the covid. This is plan for the moment unless it this spreads like wild fire which certainly is a possibility. In the end you still have 18 year old kids coming in from all over to country to share dorm rooms. My daughter has a suite with 6 people in it and she will be sharing a bedroom. Multiply her situation a thousand times over and that is what UC will be dealing with. We need to get back to normalcy at some point and that is why I am good with sending her at the moment. Now apply this to Ohio State who will have roughly twice as many on campus students as UC. If they are so concerned about the football season and the covid that they cancel the season, then what they are putting their student students though is either grossly negligent or it does not have the same impact on their political agenda. I really try to limit political discussions especially on social media formats because it tends to serve no other purpose than to frustrate me. My facebook account is deleted and never use twitter. This decision by the BIG has really turned frustration into anger because I truly believe there is a political agenda behind this decision. Glad that you get to retire in 16 months. I know I am a bit younger but probably looking at another 10 years. Thanks for the recommendation on the shows as I will need something to fill the void. I reaaly would love to see the SEC, ACC, and B12 make a go of it. I will need to search for some teams to latch on to. WVU in the BIG12 is a given. In ACC maybe North Carolina and Virgina (or anybody who plays Clemson or ND). The SEC is going to be a challenge. With my well known hatred for the conference I am going to need to latch on the one or 2 teams. I thinking UK as they are the northern most SEC team. It is hard to root against coach O and the Ohio Boy that lead the tigers last year. I also have nieces that graduated from USC and Florida. What the SEC did to Arkie as far as scheduling goes is criminal :-) |
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Post by doc on Aug 13, 2020 14:13:27 GMT
Now apply this to Ohio State who will have roughly twice as many on campus students as UC. If they are so concerned about the football season and the covid that they cancel the season, then what they are putting their student students though is either grossly negligent or it does not have the same impact on their political agenda. I really try to limit political discussions especially on social media formats because it tends to serve no other purpose than to frustrate me. My facebook account is deleted and never use twitter. This decision by the BIG has really turned frustration into anger because I truly believe there is a political agenda behind this decision. Our school is limiting dorm residents to 2 per room. Classes are reduced in size, the dining hall needs reservations, the rec center will not allow showering and equipment will be cleaned and sanitized after every use. We'll only have about 2,000 students living on campus so I have no idea how places like Ohio State or UC are going to make it work. As to the second point, there isn't a school in the country that wants to be the one that has a COVID death, especially the first one. We've set aside some housing for students that may test positive but there's only room for 70. The first 2 weeks are critical. If there's a virus surge I can see kids moving back home, campuses returning to full remote learning and campus dorms closing up. If that happens it will be devastating for many schools. So what happens if they start fall sports (they can't just let football play) and they have to close down campus dorms? I want to see football as much as everyone else but working at a university and seeing everything they've done to make a go of having students on campus this semester has been eye opening. I've only been back in my office for 2 weeks now and many of my colleagues have opted to remain working remotely. We'll see if the other 3 conferences wind up playing, when push comes to shove. |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 13, 2020 15:28:13 GMT
My daughter just got her classes scheduled at UC. Just found out all classes will be on-line. She ended up getting in one of the newer dorms. It has 6 people per room. 2 get there own bedroom and the other 4 will be sharing rooms. Not sure if it used to be a total of 8 or not. The have rooms set aside for covid positive students but like X it is limited. The closer it gets the more concerned I seem to get. The infection fatality rate for her age group is 0.00032% and she is very healthy which makes me breathe a bit easier.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 13, 2020 15:36:42 GMT
I think I have finally made to stage 4 with all of your counseling.
Denial and Isolation (check)
Anger (check check check)
Bargaining (check just today)
Depression (in progress)
Acceptance (TBD)
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Post by doc on Aug 13, 2020 16:09:08 GMT
I just read that Ohio has placed travel warnings on the following states; Florida, Texas, Alabama and Mississippi. South Carolina is very close to the 15% ratio. It's suggested that should you travel to these states that you self-quarantine for 14 days following your routine. Here are the schools that currently still plan to proceed with a football season and sports in the fall that are in these states...
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Alabama
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Texas
Texas A+M
Baylor
TCU
Obviously South Carolina and Clemson are in South Carolina. Our neighbors went to Hilton Head a few weeks ago and they quarantined for 2 weeks.
I realize a lot can change between now and the proposed start of the season but if they were to start play now, based on Ohio, any teams traveling to the states mentioned above would need to quarantine for 2 weeks. How can you play a game the week after you travel if you're quarantined?
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Post by Bevo on Aug 13, 2020 21:19:24 GMT
Just silly. Young people are at more risk from the flu than Covid.
This is mass insanity
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CATS it is!