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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 30, 2020 17:05:55 GMT
When the BIG nixed the season I recall stating that this had a lot of political motivation to this decision. Now that we are getting closer to the election we now have the first add blaming Trumps covid "lack of leadership" has lead to the cancellation of this season? 
This add comes from Joe Biden who continues to state that he is prepared to shut the country down and we need to have nationwide uniform policies to address this??? I'm sorry but New York City and small town North Dakota should in no way shape or form should be forced to comply to the same policies.
In January Trump Shut down flights to China. He was criticized for this and labeled a xenophobe.
In March Foucci and Peolosi where still telling people that it was OK to be out in public as Pelosi was trying to get people to come down to Chinatown.
The initial plan was to level the curve and when the NY mayor and governor went into panic mode, Trump provide all of the hospitals and ventilators that were needed. Even then the New Yorkers still send covid positive patients back to assisted care facilities???
Trump has done an incredibly good job beefing up test, getting ventilators, and accelerating a vaccine.
So what is Biden response??? He is essentially going to do the exact same thing as Trump but will double testing???
The only real criticism that I have heard on Trump is that he did not encourage the usage of masks soon enough and that one is debatable considering we were initially told that masks won't help.
Oh well just needed to get that one off my chest but when I saw the NCAA commercial I just about lost it.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 30, 2020 19:09:05 GMT
If that wasn't enough to make you mad, how about these two stories: 1) The CDC is reporting that only 6% of all US COVID deaths have COVID listed as the only cause. 94% had at least 1 co-morbidity. Most had 2-3 other on-going issues. fox8.com/news/coronavirus/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/2) Apparently, the NYT has published an article that suggests up to 90% of positive COVID tests should not have been listed as "positive"?? WTF? I can't read the entire NYT article, so.. I can't be sure. Just going by the interpretation in the article below. townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/08/29/it-looks-like-a-lot-of-those-positive-covid-tests-should-have-been-negative-n2575305?utm_source=thdaily&utm_Those are pretty big numbers... which point to what many of us have suspected for a long time. The numbers are grossly over-stated. To this day, I still personally know only TWO people who have been hospitalized by COVID. One is still in the hospital, and is in very bad shape. Going on 24 days now. I barely know more people than that who have actually had COVID at all, at least, confirmed. I know DOZENS of people who are out of work, have lost businesses, or are fearful of losing their house. For something supposedly so wildly contagious and deadly, the numbers have just never seemed to match reality? |
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Post by aufan on Aug 30, 2020 22:34:14 GMT
The co-morbidity stat isn't too surprising, considering most people over 55 in the US have at least one chronic health condition. Doesn't mean they were going to keel over dead in the next week if they didn't get COVID.
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Post by aufan on Aug 30, 2020 22:36:06 GMT
I have a hard time believing a football season was canceled to give material for a political ad. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 31, 2020 1:00:42 GMT
I have a hard time believing a football season was canceled to give material for a political ad. Maybe I'm wrong. Just look at the extent that these politicians have gone to to invalidate Trump or remove him from office. The whole FISA issue should have resulted in mass convictions. I get it why people don't like Trump but I the extent that these politicians have gone to would not surprise me if this was all part of the plan. The latest commericial certainly seems to support my claim. |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Aug 31, 2020 1:02:58 GMT
If that wasn't enough to make you mad, how about these two stories: 1) The CDC is reporting that only 6% of all US COVID deaths have COVID listed as the only cause. 94% had at least 1 co-morbidity. Most had 2-3 other on-going issues. fox8.com/news/coronavirus/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/2) Apparently, the NYT has published an article that suggests up to 90% of positive COVID tests should not have been listed as "positive"?? WTF? I can't read the entire NYT article, so.. I can't be sure. Just going by the interpretation in the article below. townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/08/29/it-looks-like-a-lot-of-those-positive-covid-tests-should-have-been-negative-n2575305?utm_source=thdaily&utm_Those are pretty big numbers... which point to what many of us have suspected for a long time. The numbers are grossly over-stated. To this day, I still personally know only TWO people who have been hospitalized by COVID. One is still in the hospital, and is in very bad shape. Going on 24 days now. I barely know more people than that who have actually had COVID at all, at least, confirmed. I know DOZENS of people who are out of work, have lost businesses, or are fearful of losing their house. For something supposedly so wildly contagious and deadly, the numbers have just never seemed to match reality? I personally know of 1 person that has tested positive and it was not bad for him. I have known a fair amount of people of someone who knows someone. Considering our governor test negative then positive then negative makes you wonder.
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Post by EvilVodka on Aug 31, 2020 1:13:47 GMT
Trust me, we will all look back years from now and see the covid pandemic for what it was: bullshit
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Post by Bevo on Aug 31, 2020 2:33:10 GMT
Trust me, we will all look back years from now and see the covid pandemic for what it was: bullshit I have read some articles that suppose China totally lied to the world, then pushed fake social media accounts around the world to try to convince the West to shut down their economies. Supposedly, they targeted Italy, knowing that the rest of the West would follow them. If true, it worked. This sure seems like global mass insanity. |
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Post by aufan on Sept 2, 2020 0:43:38 GMT
I have a hard time believing a football season was canceled to give material for a political ad. Maybe I'm wrong. Just look at the extent that these politicians have gone to to invalidate Trump or remove him from office. The whole FISA issue should have resulted in mass convictions. I get it why people don't like Trump but I the extent that these politicians have gone to would not surprise me if this was all part of the plan. The latest commericial certainly seems to support my claim. I think you are reversing cause and effect. I haven't seen the ad, but politicians will say and blame anything on anyone.
If you think the only reason to cancel an amateur sport during a deadly pandemic is to hope to place blame on a presidential candidate, then maybe this amateur sport plays too significant of a role in your life? More significant than those who voted to cancel it, for sure.
If canceling college football sways voters, then I feel sad for those voters.
You certainly place a higher value on the sport than those who voted to cancel it. I imagine they voted on political grounds, though internal ones. There are plenty of people at universities who believe that college football is over-prioritized, and it wouldn't surprise me if their vote was swayed by this belief.
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Post by aufan on Sept 2, 2020 0:44:52 GMT
Trust me, we will all look back years from now and see the covid pandemic for what it was: bullshit The deaths are bullshit? |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Sept 2, 2020 14:19:02 GMT
Just look at the extent that these politicians have gone to to invalidate Trump or remove him from office. The whole FISA issue should have resulted in mass convictions. I get it why people don't like Trump but I the extent that these politicians have gone to would not surprise me if this was all part of the plan. The latest commericial certainly seems to support my claim. I think you are reversing cause and effect. I haven't seen the ad, but politicians will say and blame anything on anyone.
If you think the only reason to cancel an amateur sport during a deadly pandemic is to hope to place blame on a presidential candidate, then maybe this amateur sport plays too significant of a role in your life? More significant than those who voted to cancel it, for sure.
If canceling college football sways voters, then I feel sad for those voters.
You certainly place a higher value on the sport than those who voted to cancel it. I imagine they voted on political grounds, though internal ones. There are plenty of people at universities who believe that college football is over-prioritized, and it wouldn't surprise me if their vote was swayed by this belief.
I never said it was the only reason to cancel but I do think it was a component in the decision.
Since you are so wise and knowledgeable maybe you should shed some light on why the BIG and P12 did what they did. Keep in mind the following facts:
The B10 Commissioner who made the decision for the BIG made the exact opposite decision for his son who plays for Miss St
The B10 decided to open all campuses and pack in kids dormitories like sardines because apparently that was safe enough regarding the COVID data. But putting athletes of these sports teams into isolated areas where they can test and enforce social distancing somehow is not safe.
Then take a look at the numbers from the CDC and look at the effects of this disease on these athletes.
The BIG has given is next to no information to why this decision was made and when you look at these factors yes I think politics played a part. However with your intellect I am sure you can enlighten us to the real reason why this decision was made.
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Post by Aufan on Sept 2, 2020 22:28:12 GMT
I thought it was a vote of the presidents to postpone? Not a unilateral decision by the commissioner.
I won’t argue that other decisions about the general student body don’t seem consistent.
But you’d have to be extremely cynical to think votes were influenced because it might make Trump look bad. Not everything is a conspiracy to make Trump look bad. He does a perfectly fine job of being a complete clown on his own.
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