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Post by tigercpa on Sept 14, 2021 11:42:59 GMT
1860 census data showed 7.4% It's a hard number to define. People have strong political biases to inflate, or deflate the number. I think it's pretty safe to say, MOST people couldn't afford the "luxury" of owning a slave. They could barely take care of themselves! You are correct, sir. Depends on who and why is setting the denominator. If you bias is to have ratio higher, these sources use all "family members", if not, those sources count only the father of the family as the "slave owner".
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Post by bluehen on Sept 15, 2021 13:10:07 GMT
I would think that less than 1 percent of the poor dumb Southern Boys that were duped and recruited to fight that 'rich man's war' owned slaves or could afford to buy slaves.
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Post by stumpystew on Sept 15, 2021 13:44:43 GMT
It wasn't just the "rich man's war" in the South. At first, the Union got a lot of volunteers when the recruiting posters talked of "preserving the Union" when the war was more about the Union government keeping the majority of it's funding (The South paid huge tariffs on it's trade of cotton to fund the Federal government). With the war going bad and volunteers drying up, the Union instituted a draft, and starting drafting the poor and new immigrants. However the wealthy to pay a fee to keep their sons out of the army and the war. This led to the NYC riots of 1863. The rich Northern industrialists were reaping in a lot of money while sending the poor off to fight and have the government buy more of their products.
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Post by Bevo on Sept 15, 2021 15:52:17 GMT
It wasn't just the "rich man's war" in the South. At first, the Union got a lot of volunteers when the recruiting posters talked of "preserving the Union" when the war was more about the Union government keeping the majority of it's funding (The South paid huge tariffs on it's trade of cotton to fund the Federal government). With the war going bad and volunteers drying up, the Union instituted a draft, and starting drafting the poor and new immigrants. However the wealthy to pay a fee to keep their sons out of the army and the war. This led to the NYC riots of 1863. The rich Northern industrialists were reaping in a lot of money while sending the poor off to fight and have the government buy more of their products. War's are seldom good for the poor folk. I read a book once that took a radical view of Lincoln's decision to fight. Their premise was: Given enough time, the South would have abandoned slavery on it's own, as the rest of the world did. Perhaps, in response to global boycotts against their products. But, it would have happened. And then, the Union could have been reunited anyway, on much better terms. I had never thought about it that way. Was shocking to me, at first. But, the more I've considered it, I think that would have happened. And, that would have been far better than 500,000+ dead and who knows how many wounded, and BITTER divisions that continue to this day.
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Post by bluehen on Sept 20, 2021 22:00:04 GMT
Here's that little Confederate deserter song I wrote (well, lyrics only) years ago recorded by Mrs Hen ( bass/chorus vocals ) and I (fiddle) with our music buds... w/a little snip of 'Dixie' at the end. www.youtube.com/watch?v=-edicTzrPJ4
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Post by tigercpa on Sept 22, 2021 13:05:08 GMT
I attended our first luncheon of the season for the Greenville Clemson Lunch Club yesterday, and our speaker was President Clements.
He mentioned that in this age of wokeness and cancel culture that, we, at Clemson pray before every game, we recite the Pledge of Allegiance and sing the National Anthem.
I'm proud that Clemson takes that position.
Clements is also on a NCAA conference alignment group, and he says more changes are coming. In the ACC all money is shared equally, regardless of success. So, if a team goes 15-0 they get the same money as a team that goes 2-10.
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Post by aufan on Sept 23, 2021 23:55:26 GMT
I attended our first luncheon of the season for the Greenville Clemson Lunch Club yesterday, and our speaker was President Clements. He mentioned that in this age of wokeness and cancel culture that, we, at Clemson pray before every game, we recite the Pledge of Allegiance and sing the National Anthem. I'm proud that Clemson takes that position. Clements is also on a NCAA conference alignment group, and he says more changes are coming. In the ACC all money is shared equally, regardless of success. So, if a team goes 15-0 they get the same money as a team that goes 2-10. All money is shared equally, regardless of success? I’m sure there is a word for that.
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Post by tigercpa on Sept 24, 2021 13:51:49 GMT
I attended our first luncheon of the season for the Greenville Clemson Lunch Club yesterday, and our speaker was President Clements. He mentioned that in this age of wokeness and cancel culture that, we, at Clemson pray before every game, we recite the Pledge of Allegiance and sing the National Anthem. I'm proud that Clemson takes that position. Clements is also on a NCAA conference alignment group, and he says more changes are coming. In the ACC all money is shared equally, regardless of success. So, if a team goes 15-0 they get the same money as a team that goes 2-10. All money is shared equally, regardless of success? I’m sure there is a word for that. Is the word "unmeritocracy"?
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