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Post by bluehen on Dec 28, 2021 14:41:15 GMT
.......who know the difference between a playoff and a post season invitational bowl event and the difference between real and mythical.
The alma mater teams of these guys have been allowed to compete for and have actually won division 1 national football championships :
Florida Herd Fan (Marshall)
Blue Hen (Delaware)
Stumpy Stew ( Appalachian State )
Bucs90 (Furman)
So hats off to the Herd, the Mountaineers, the Hens and the Paladins. They did it without the help of one single, opinionated conference room vote or any media hyping .
Hope I didn't forget and leave out anybody .
Now, many of you good posters keep referring to these BCS and CFP events as playoffs......because Disney marketing execs and ESPN tell you to call them 'playoffs' (knowing that they really aren't)
...but some of us know and have experienced real CF playoffs. , ....and it has been virtuous and good
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 28, 2021 16:23:30 GMT
I just posted a 24 team playoff and you said "too many teams"
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Post by bluehen on Dec 28, 2021 16:47:36 GMT
Good point Evil. However your plan is based strictly on opinionated rankings (known as mythical) and disregards regular season champions as auto qualifiers, and is primarily chock full of 'ranked' at large teams. The NCAA D1 national championship is open to all the FCS champs* + some 'at large' entrants. That said, I think there may be too many 'at large' teams in the NCAA D1 playoffs.
* The MEAC and SWAC choose to play a PSEG and the Ivy League doesn't permit post season football
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Post by Bevo on Dec 28, 2021 17:25:48 GMT
.......who know the difference between a playoff and a post season invitational bowl event and the difference between real and mythical.
The rest of us FULLY UNDERSTAND the difference between a playoff and an invitational bowl event. And the difference between Real and Mythical. "Mythical" is the belief that the G5 and P5 conferences are equivalent. "Real" is the dominance that the P5 has shown, in competition. The Big name schools are just NOT going to give up high revenue regular season games just so you can have your desired "INCLUSIVE" playoff that grants an auto-bid to the Champion of the Sun Belt conference. Sun Belt teams have LOST 91.8% of ALL games played again P5 competition. They are NOT at the same level. Not a knock on them. Some of them play great, spirit filled football. They're just NOT at the competitive level, overall. The CFP IS a playoff whether or not the Blue Hen seal of approval is applied. For sure, the field is small and the rules for entry are somewhat arbitrary and subjective. But, there ARE rules. All teams know them. And, ALL TEAMS have the possibility to be invited if they do the necessary. Of course, the chances are much higher for teams playing in a P5 conference. Getting into one of those conferences is a good way to start. And yes, it IS possible. After the CFP this year, we will have a worthy FBS Champion. A Champion who played well in the regular season, against good competition, and then won a 4-team playoff against the other highest performing teams in the country. Everyone outside of "Hen Holler Virginia" will accept them as the 2021 Effed-up Season Champions. Unless, of course... the Omicron head cold ruins everything. But, that has nothing to do with playoff format.
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Post by bluehen on Dec 28, 2021 19:53:29 GMT
You've never experienced a real national championship so how do you know ? I know the answer - because ESPN tells you the CFI is a playoff ....bought hook line and sinker
and Bevo, of course the CFI features very worthy teams. Three of them would have been auto qualifiers and the 4th a 'lock' at large selection if there was a championship playoff so no debating that there will be a worthy CFI champ. Just sayin there are 7 other FBS leagues out there not permitted to play in an Invitational event but would be playing in a FBS national championship playoff event.
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Post by Bevo on Dec 28, 2021 20:33:33 GMT
You've never experienced a real national championship so how do you know ? I know the answer - because ESPN tells you the CFI is a playoff ....bought hook line and sinker What makes you think I haven’t ? I’ve been a fan of Georgia Southern, McNeese St, and Sam Houston at one point in time or another. I know how big playoffs work.
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 28, 2021 20:36:51 GMT
This feels less like a playoff analysis thread and more of a "hen told you so" thread
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Post by bluehen on Dec 28, 2021 20:40:01 GMT
Well Bevo, I didn't know or think you cared about the D1 championship or FCS teams at all. My bad.
Anyway, Bevo, did you enjoy the 3rd straight bowl victory by a vastly inferior , so called, G5 team over the supremely talented SEC ?
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Post by bluehen on Dec 28, 2021 21:02:10 GMT
This feels less like a playoff analysis thread and more of a "hen told you so" thread Should I completely shut up about Playoffs vs Invitationals ?
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Post by Bevo on Dec 28, 2021 21:27:03 GMT
This feels less like a playoff analysis thread and more of a "hen told you so" thread Should I completely shut up about Playoffs vs Invitationals ? yes. We ALL fully understand the difference, and why we've ended up this way. You're beating a dead mule in front of people who have compassion for the mule.
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Post by Bevo on Dec 28, 2021 21:28:06 GMT
Well Bevo, I didn't know or think you cared about the D1 championship or FCS teams at all. My bad. Anyway, Bevo, did you enjoy the 3rd straight bowl victory by a vastly inferior , so called, G5 team over the supremely talented SEC ? I was born in Houston. I always root for Cougar High! I hope they get to play 6-6 SEC teams, missing 10 scholarship athletes EVER year!
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Post by bluehen on Dec 28, 2021 21:32:33 GMT
Well Bevo, I didn't know or think you cared about the D1 championship or FCS teams at all. My bad. Anyway, Bevo, did you enjoy the 3rd straight bowl victory by a vastly inferior , so called, G5 team over the supremely talented SEC ? I was born in Houston. I always root for Cougar High! I hope they get to play 6-6 SEC teams, missing 10 scholarship athletes EVER year! When these SEC teams 'try' and beat these no hype teams how come excuses are not mentioned on behalf of the defeated teams ?
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Post by Bevo on Dec 28, 2021 21:39:12 GMT
I was born in Houston. I always root for Cougar High! I hope they get to play 6-6 SEC teams, missing 10 scholarship athletes EVER year! When these SEC teams 'try' and beat these no hype teams how come excuses are not mentioned on behalf of the defeated teams ? How many players is Houston missing? Houston in only what? 2, or 3 years removed from JUST MISSING the CFP? They have a good program. Not representative at all of most G5 programs. Which is why, they've been accepted by the Big 12.
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Post by doc on Dec 29, 2021 15:16:18 GMT
It just depends on what you're willing to accept. I do think they'll expand the field in the next several years but for now it is what it is and given the winners in the playoff era I don't think you could make a case for any other team besides the one that eventually won. In several years it was obvious that only two teams deserved to be in the playoff. JUst keep the playoff teams away from COVID for a couple more days...except Michigan....
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Post by bluehen on Dec 29, 2021 15:51:23 GMT
Should I completely shut up about Playoffs vs Invitationals ? yes. We ALL fully understand the difference, and why we've ended up this way. You're beating a dead mule in front of people who have compassion for the mule. Bevo, if this is true and everybody understands the difference between TV driven, mythical, post season, invitational exhibitions and real, on field, inclusive team sports championships......well , my work on Earth is done.
So any suggestions about what I can rant about from here on out ?? Thanks.
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