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Post by Hero on Dec 3, 2022 16:18:54 GMT
A bunch of teams with no business competing for the National Champ title scrambling for a playoff spot … and this is progress ? This changes CF completely. Now it’ll be like every other sport, just the way Hen has always wanted it. Oh well… it was already dead. My idea of college football is dead. I still watch my team but it is dead. Free agency Money NFL Playoff Bring on the 68 team playoff. |
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Post by aufan on Dec 3, 2022 16:30:08 GMT
A bunch of teams with no business competing for the National Champ title scrambling for a playoff spot … and this is progress ? This changes CF completely. Now it’ll be like every other sport, just the way Hen has always wanted it. Oh well… it was already dead. My idea of college football is dead. I still watch my team but it is dead. Free agency Money NFL Playoff Bring on the 68 team playoff. Us capitalists are proud of what has happened to college football. Free agency and money are the root of the American capitalist dream.
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Post by Bevo on Dec 3, 2022 16:46:46 GMT
A bunch of teams with no business competing for the National Champ title scrambling for a playoff spot … and this is progress ? This changes CF completely. Now it’ll be like every other sport, just the way Hen has always wanted it. Oh well… it was already dead. My idea of college football is dead. I still watch my team but it is dead. Free agency Money NFL Playoff Bring on the 68 team playoff. I don’t know why we bother playing regular season at all? We should just have one huge double elimination tourney. |
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Post by aufan on Dec 3, 2022 17:05:26 GMT
My idea of college football is dead. I still watch my team but it is dead. Free agency Money NFL Playoff Bring on the 68 team playoff. I don’t know why we bother playing regular season at all? We should just have one huge double elimination tourney.
If every team eligible cannot win their way into a playoff and thus championship through the regular season, what is the point of a regular season?
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Post by bluehen on Dec 4, 2022 15:24:30 GMT
Those griping about the meaningless regular season are not 'thinking'. Right now the regular season ELIMINATES 128 teams out of 132 teams for Invitational opportunities. That's 97 % elimination via the regular season !!!!!! 97 % !!!!. It's one of the most, if not the most, meaningful regular seasons in all of team sports. 'Micro' thinking vs 'macro' thinking'. The big picture tells you more.
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Post by Bevo on Dec 4, 2022 17:45:56 GMT
It's one of the most, if not the most, meaningful regular seasons in all of team sports. That's the whole point, Hen. It IS... currently.. the MOST meaningful regular season in all of sports. The BIGGER the playoff field gets, the LESS the regular season matters. That's just fact. Make it big enough, like college basketball is now, and you end up with Coaches like Calipari actually HOPING their team loses a game, so he can yell at them and make them work harder. No coach does that in college football today. I can see it happening in the future. Along with key starters sitting, in what used to be HUGE matchups, like OSU vs Michigan. |
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Post by bluehen on Dec 4, 2022 21:14:18 GMT
Well, even with the 12 team format 91 % of all teams will be eliminated from competing for a natty by the regular season. And if it ever goes to an 'all leagues get a shot' 16 team field the regular season will still eliminate 88% of teams . I think that's a pretty nice balance of inclusiveness and meaningful regular season. What do you think, Bevo ?
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Post by aufan on Dec 4, 2022 21:35:18 GMT
It's one of the most, if not the most, meaningful regular seasons in all of team sports. That's the whole point, Hen. It IS... currently.. the MOST meaningful regular season in all of sports. The BIGGER the playoff field gets, the LESS the regular season matters. That's just fact. Make it big enough, like college basketball is now, and you end up with Coaches like Calipari actually HOPING their team loses a game, so he can yell at them and make them work harder. No coach does that in college football today. I can see it happening in the future. Along with key starters sitting, in what used to be HUGE matchups, like OSU vs Michigan.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of mathematics if I have ever seen it. Oh yes I have seen it, where someone arguing against COVID growth rates didn't understand why a natural log was used to calculate exponential growth. Goddamn I missed the golden age of America where being confidently incorrect was the key to success.
Anyways, the math is relatively simple on the front end. The more games that impact the playoff, the more meaningful the regular season is. With some assumptions of non-overlapping games, a 2 team playoff where each team plays 13 games means ~26 games are meaningful. 4 team playoff means ~52 games are meaningful to the playoff. A 12 team playoff means ~156 games are meaningful.
To be fair, there is a cutoff where a more inclusive playoff reduces the amount of regular season games that are meaningful. That happens around 50% of the teams being eligible for a playoff. Even if you exclude all of G5, college football isn't even close to that.
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Post by bluehen on Dec 5, 2022 1:17:17 GMT
I'd say more like 80 % would yield a meaningful regular season AND still offer fairness and inclusiveness.
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