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Post by bluehen on Mar 27, 2023 21:50:56 GMT
It means you're the national champ. Again true 'best team' cannot be proven...only guessed at. Team sports can do better than 'guessed at', opinionated best teams. All but one does.
It can very simply be reduced to 'playing' vs 'voting' to determine a sports champion.
Playing can definitely produce some surprises
Voting will always leave some uncertainty of 'who would really emerge if they played' ? Right ?
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 28, 2023 14:41:54 GMT
It is if you are after the increased entertainment value, or the "tournament champion". But, doesn't make much sense if you are trying to determine the best team of the year. No other sport tries to decide best team. They all determine the winner. The more teams eligible to become the winner, the more games that are meaningful during both the regular and post season. For me, the meaningfulness of the regular season can be measured by how quickly that regular season can be erased in the post-season. And that, my friends, is 40 minutes in cillege basketball. See UVa, Bama, etc. |
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Post by bluehen on Mar 28, 2023 15:29:26 GMT
Well, the regular season eliminated 285 basketball teams from competing for a title. That has zero meaning ?
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Post by Bevo on Mar 28, 2023 17:00:23 GMT
Well, the regular season eliminated 285 basketball teams from competing for a title. That has zero meaning ? We don't know... no one watched it. |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Mar 29, 2023 16:05:25 GMT
NCAAF 3% of field make the playoffs soon to be 8%
NCAAM 20% of the filed make the playoffs
MLB 30% of the field make the playoffs
NFL 44% of the field make the playoffs
NHL 44% of the field makes the playoffs
NBA 67% of the field make the playoffs
I disagree that the regular season has no meaning in college hoops. The regular season you are fighting to make sure you get one of the 34 at large slots. If you don't get it then you have a bock door to get in. Sure college football has far more riding on every game but virtually half the field is eliminated before the first snap is taken. Then by the end of September you have maybe 20% of the field that still has a shot.
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Post by bluehen on Mar 29, 2023 17:14:01 GMT
Right, and in FBS CF's late season there are really only a handful of meaningful games that will actually impact who the fortunate 'voted' four will be.
With an all inclusive playoff ( all leagues) there would be way more late season drama and critical games to determine playoff teams. I think that's a good thing for the sport.
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Post by Bevo on Mar 31, 2023 12:39:24 GMT
NCAAF 3% of field make the playoffs soon to be 8% NCAAM 20% of the filed make the playoffs MLB 30% of the field make the playoffs NFL 44% of the field make the playoffs NHL 44% of the field makes the playoffs NBA 67% of the field make the playoffs I disagree that the regular season has no meaning in college hoops. The regular season you are fighting to make sure you get one of the 34 at large slots. If you don't get it then you have a bock door to get in. Sure college football has far more riding on every game but virtually half the field is eliminated before the first snap is taken. Then by the end of September you have maybe 20% of the field that still has a shot. When Texas loses to OU, in football I WATCH, and I cry , or kick the dog. When Kentucky loses to Bama in BBall…. I read about it on the internet, and don’t give a shit. THAT is the difference between a regular season that MEANS something… and one that doesn’t. Look… I’m not saying my way is better. Maybe it’s not? Just don’t try to tell me there’s no difference. |
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Post by bluehen on Mar 31, 2023 14:55:43 GMT
Fine , as long as you acknowledge what is good and meaningful to Bevo, personally, may not be what's best for the sport......and I think you did.
81% of D1 basketball teams are eliminated by the regular season. That's one of the highest elimination % s in all of team sports with legitimate championship playoffs yet all champs of all leagues are still included. The NCAA can be very klutzy in administrative matters but it knows how to offer fair and inclusive team sports championships.
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 31, 2023 15:34:17 GMT
Well, the regular season eliminated 285 basketball teams from competing for a title. That has zero meaning ? We don't know... no one watched it. You beat me to it. |
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Post by aufan on Apr 6, 2023 2:00:39 GMT
No other sport tries to decide best team. They all determine the winner. The more teams eligible to become the winner, the more games that are meaningful during both the regular and post season. For me, the meaningfulness of the regular season can be measured by how quickly that regular season can be erased in the post-season. And that, my friends, is 40 minutes in cillege basketball. See UVa, Bama, etc. So it is 60 minutes in football? All single elimination tournaments will erase the regular season in one game. The meaningfulness of the regular season is defined by how many games impact the lost season. In college football that is 4 teams by about 5 games that they had a chance to lose. The rest of the hundreds of games had zero impact on the post season, this were meaningless. The percent of meaningless games is the highest in college football. |
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