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Post by ajbuckeye on Mar 26, 2023 16:49:53 GMT
Football has a 4 team playoff for about 130 teams Basketball has 340 teams so the equivalent field would be 12 teams
Of the top 12 teams only 7 made the sweet 16 Of the top 12 teams only 3 would have made the elite eight Of the top 4 teams 0 made the elite 8 Of the top 12 teams only 1 maybe 2 teams made the final 4
This makes me think the college football playoff expansion is the right thing. I say expand to 16 teams with first round at home sites.
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Post by bluehen on Mar 26, 2023 16:55:48 GMT
16 with 10 champs and 6 'at large'. That removes all mythicalness
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Post by EvilVodka on Mar 26, 2023 17:18:11 GMT
Have a 24 team playoff
Top 8 conference champs get byes
First and second rounds at home stadiums
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Post by Bevo on Mar 26, 2023 18:02:24 GMT
why not just have a WHOLE season of tournament? Like basketball, the regular season wouldn't matter anyway.
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Post by EvilVodka on Mar 26, 2023 20:05:46 GMT
why not just have a WHOLE season of tournament? Like basketball, the regular season wouldn't matter anyway. Compared to what we have now? Imagine that we changed the bowl season, except that winners would move on Would that not be better?
What we have now is dying. Cheese and Mayo bowls, opt outs
Moreso though, we'll get more nation-wide matchups
I want to see FSU vs. Texas
Alabama vs. USC Michigan vs. Clemson Etc.
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Post by Bevo on Mar 27, 2023 1:36:08 GMT
why not just have a WHOLE season of tournament? Like basketball, the regular season wouldn't matter anyway. Compared to what we have now? Imagine that we changed the bowl season, except that winners would move on Would that not be better?
What we have now is dying. Cheese and Mayo bowls, opt outs
Moreso though, we'll get more nation-wide matchups
I want to see FSU vs. Texas
Alabama vs. USC Michigan vs. Clemson Etc. I agree.. I just about don't give a crap about it anymore. But, I don't think a huge national tourney will change that.
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Post by bluehen on Mar 27, 2023 13:24:04 GMT
16 teams out of 134 (11 % ) is in no way a "huge national tourney"....come on. You already have over half of the FBS playing meaningless post season exhibition games and when the regular season determines that only 11% of teams qualify for a post season opportunity at a national championship, well, you have a hell of a meaningful regular season, which eliminates 123 teams. I think the 16 team plan is a win-win. It would combine a very meaningful regular season with an all inclusive, fair, national championship playoff........basically catching up with all other team sports, at all levels, on Earth.
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 27, 2023 14:40:23 GMT
Football has a 4 team playoff for about 130 teams Basketball has 340 teams so the equivalent field would be 12 teams Of the top 12 teams only 7 made the sweet 16 Of the top 12 teams only 3 would have made the elite eight Of the top 4 teams 0 made the elite 8 Of the top 12 teams only 1 maybe 2 teams made the final 4 This makes me think the college football playoff expansion is the right thing. I say expand to 16 teams with first round at home sites. It is if you are after the increased entertainment value, or the "tournament champion". But, doesn't make much sense if you are trying to determine the best team of the year.
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Post by aufan on Mar 27, 2023 14:48:58 GMT
Football has a 4 team playoff for about 130 teams Basketball has 340 teams so the equivalent field would be 12 teams Of the top 12 teams only 7 made the sweet 16 Of the top 12 teams only 3 would have made the elite eight Of the top 4 teams 0 made the elite 8 Of the top 12 teams only 1 maybe 2 teams made the final 4 This makes me think the college football playoff expansion is the right thing. I say expand to 16 teams with first round at home sites. It is if you are after the increased entertainment value, or the "tournament champion". But, doesn't make much sense if you are trying to determine the best team of the year. No other sport tries to decide best team. They all determine the winner. The more teams eligible to become the winner, the more games that are meaningful during both the regular and post season.
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Post by bluehen on Mar 27, 2023 15:08:14 GMT
.....yep and with a true national championship playoff just imagine how critical, meaningful and dramatic so many, many late regular season games would become to determine playoff slots. Now , we basically have a relative 'few' of these games that will influence which four teams some conference room committee will 'allow' to compete.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Mar 27, 2023 15:42:58 GMT
Football has a 4 team playoff for about 130 teams Basketball has 340 teams so the equivalent field would be 12 teams Of the top 12 teams only 7 made the sweet 16 Of the top 12 teams only 3 would have made the elite eight Of the top 4 teams 0 made the elite 8 Of the top 12 teams only 1 maybe 2 teams made the final 4 This makes me think the college football playoff expansion is the right thing. I say expand to 16 teams with first round at home sites. It is if you are after the increased entertainment value, or the "tournament champion". But, doesn't make much sense if you are trying to determine the best team of the year. I do think 4 teams is not enough as there are legitimate contenders that would get left out. This year was a good example. Bama had 2 losses both in the waning seconds. Had they won one of those games they would be in and Ohio State would be out. Could Bama have won it all. Sure. Then looking at Ohio State they had UGA on the ropes. If the targeting made on the field stands (which should have) then the Buckeyes put them away. 8 would be the minimum for me and 16 would be ideal. 12 really is not a bad way to go because it benefits the top 4 conference winners.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Mar 27, 2023 15:45:53 GMT
16 with 10 champs and 6 'at large'. That removes all mythicalness I would be good with that but would probably prefer top 8 champs and 8 at large. The problem with all conference champs going is that this format may encourage FCS leagues to make a jump to FBS.
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 27, 2023 16:32:14 GMT
It is if you are after the increased entertainment value, or the "tournament champion". But, doesn't make much sense if you are trying to determine the best team of the year. No other sport tries to decide best team. They all determine the winner. The more teams eligible to become the winner, the more games that are meaningful during both the regular and post season. You don’t have to be the best team in the country to win this thing. You just gotta win six games and just be a little bit better than those six opponents, however you match up against them. It’s super fun, but it doesn’t mean you were the best team in college basketball.
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Post by bluehen on Mar 27, 2023 18:23:15 GMT
It means you're the national champ. Again true 'best team' cannot be proven...only guessed at. Team sports can do better than 'guessed at', opinionated best teams. All but one does.
It can very simply be reduced to 'playing' vs 'voting' to determine a sports champion.
Playing can definitely produce some surprises
Voting will always leave some uncertainty of 'who would really emerge if they played' ? Right ?
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Post by aufan on Mar 27, 2023 19:26:24 GMT
No other sport tries to decide best team. They all determine the winner. The more teams eligible to become the winner, the more games that are meaningful during both the regular and post season. You don’t have to be the best team in the country to win this thing. You just gotta win six games and just be a little bit better than those six opponents, however you match up against them. It’s super fun, but it doesn’t mean you were the best team in college basketball. No other sport even attempts to decide ‘best team’. Why should college football?
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