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Post by bluehen on Dec 4, 2023 22:57:28 GMT
....or more like SEC reality.
When it was announced that Oklahoma and Texas were joining the conference I remember so many SEC blowhards ( both fans and media types) predicting how those teams will get dominated in their new rough and tough league.....with a whole new higher level of competition. ..."welcome to a real conference" etc etc. Well, to this point in time the SEC teams have played 88 games vs OU and Texas and won exactly 31 of them for a whopping, dominant 35% success rate. Fairy tale perceptions and reality don't always click. The SEC has a lot of catching up to do vs Texas and OU.
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2023 23:17:26 GMT
....or more like SEC reality.
When it was announced that Oklahoma and Texas were joining the conference I remember so many SEC blowhards ( both fans and media types) predicting how those teams will get dominated in their new rough and tough league.....with a whole new higher level of competition. ..."welcome to a real conference" etc etc. Well, to this point in time the SEC teams have played 88 games vs OU and Texas and won exactly 31 of them for a whopping, dominant 35% success rate. Fairy tale perceptions and reality don't always click. The SEC has a lot of catching up to do vs Texas and OU.
you still hear that today..."the Big XII is a weak conference, Texas and Oklahoma better get ready for real competition"
Its just idiot internet nonsense
Texas and Oklahoma are bluebloods...I don't think they are intimidated by anyone in the SEC
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Post by aufan on Dec 5, 2023 3:11:32 GMT
....or more like SEC reality.
When it was announced that Oklahoma and Texas were joining the conference I remember so many SEC blowhards ( both fans and media types) predicting how those teams will get dominated in their new rough and tough league.....with a whole new higher level of competition. ..."welcome to a real conference" etc etc. Well, to this point in time the SEC teams have played 88 games vs OU and Texas and won exactly 31 of them for a whopping, dominant 35% success rate. Fairy tale perceptions and reality don't always click. The SEC has a lot of catching up to do vs Texas and OU.
Similar to basically every other post on this forum, this has no evidence provided and is wrong. Oklahoma has played Missouri 96 times, for example, yet Texas and Oklahoma together have only played 88 games against SEC teams? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri–Oklahoma_football_rivalry |
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Post by bluehen on Dec 5, 2023 3:40:57 GMT
Nope, aufan.
Oklahoma and Texas records vs SEC only.
OU is 15-10-2 vs SEC, all time
Texas is 38-21-2 vs SEC all time
All those OU and Texas games vs Missouri while it was in the B8 and B12 not counted.
Source is Mcubed.net.
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Post by aufan on Dec 5, 2023 4:16:20 GMT
Nope, aufan. Oklahoma and Texas records vs SEC only. OU is 15-10-2 vs SEC, all time Texas is 38-21-2 vs SEC all time All those OU and Texas games vs Missouri while it was in the B8 and B12 not counted. Source is Mcubed.net. You are excluding games against current SEC teams, got it. |
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Post by bluehen on Dec 5, 2023 13:34:39 GMT
Nope, those 88 games reflect Texas and Oklahoma vs SEC all time and up to date including current SEC members. Aufan, I know it's difficult for an SEC supremacist to except how badly your conference has been bullied by the Horns and Sooners over the years but if you're still in disbelief take up the facts dispute with M3cubed .net and its statistical record data. It's an amazing place for historical sports records.
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Post by aufan on Dec 6, 2023 22:20:10 GMT
Why would you not count games against current SEC members?
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Post by bluehen on Dec 7, 2023 3:31:09 GMT
Aufan,I don't count anything. Go to mcubed.net and see the game history between OU , Texas and all SEC teams. If you can't accept their facts let 'm know about it...not me. They are probably open for corrections. Texas vs SEC all time, for example :
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Post by aufan on Dec 7, 2023 17:05:38 GMT
You need new numbers because they don’t make sense for your argument. Why is Texas vs Tulane relevant to your argument?
Surely you can search by current conference alignment, which would fit your argument better.
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Post by bluehen on Dec 7, 2023 17:34:30 GMT
. My original post states that "to this point in time" here is the historical record of OU and Texas vs SEC teams...plain and simple. AuFan, I guess you can pretend that Tulane was never an SEC team. What if Tulane had a dominant H2H record vs Texas ? In that case, I somehow suspect you wouldn't be offering these objections to historical fact. Like I said, please take any historical fact questions up with Mcubed.net. Offer them the true, new and improved AuFan Texas vs SEC record.
I say accept historical records without any'what ifs' or spins by you , me or anybody. For fun , check out Texas vs Arkansas and Missouri all time, and even Texas vs Sewanee. Sewenee (future SEC member) actually beat Texas 3 out of 7.....that's much better than all the SEC members past and present, collectively.
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Post by aufan on Dec 8, 2023 14:16:32 GMT
You were arguing that people claim Texas and OU will get dominated in their new conference.
Your argument against that are numbers that include games against Tulane, who is not in the conference, and excludes games against Missouri, who is in the conference.
Makes no sense.
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Post by bluehen on Dec 8, 2023 15:07:43 GMT
Right, Aufan, I noted that many SEC types are predicting doom and gloom for Oklahoma and Texas in their new conference , and I simply referenced what the historical, all time results 'to this point in time' have been when OU and Texas have played SEC teams......no predictions , whatsoever, about future games vs current SEC teams. The only reference to anything 'future' in my post is that "the SEC has a lot of catching up to do vs Texas and Oklahoma " (in W-L records) What's illegitimate about that ? Your denial that SEC team , Tulane, should be counted in SEC historical/factual data makes zero sense to me. Honest question for you : If Tulane had a historically dominant record vs OU and Texas would you even be bringing up the Tulane part of the equation ? You're a thoughtful, honest fellow so I expect an honest answer.
For fun, if you'd like to do some more Tulane denial/pretending you could deny that Tulane won SEC football championships in 1934 and 1949. Heck, Aufan, you can even pretend that Auburn winning only 15 of 39 games vs Tulane, all time, is a myth.
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Post by aufan on Dec 8, 2023 23:39:16 GMT
Then it’s not fairy tale perception, yet, since they aren’t in the SEC yet.
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Post by bluehen on Dec 9, 2023 0:49:40 GMT
Yeah, Ok AuFan
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