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Post by tigercpa on May 31, 2016 14:23:00 GMT
College baseball regional playoffs are all set.
www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2016-05-30/ncaa-division-i-baseball-committee-announces-field-64-teams
Clemson and FSU played a weird championship game in Durham on Sunday. I picked my daughter up at RDU Sunday evening after her Maymester in Italy.
Clemson led 13-1 before the multiple rain delays, and won 18-13 in a nearly 9-hour duration game.
Definitely appears that all the good baseball was played in the SEC and ACC this year. 7 SEC hosts, 6 ACC hosts, 2 Big XII hosts, and then ULa-La.
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Post by GatorGrad on May 31, 2016 15:02:01 GMT
NCAA Baseball Tournament seeding process is a joke. They seed the top 8 overall 1-8 but then for 9-16 overall, which decides who matches up with who during super regionals, they go by geography. So rather than the super regionals having 1v16, 2v15, 3v14, etc if seedings hold true, you could have the #1 overall seed hosting #9 overall while a #8 overall hosts a #16 overall. Florida is almost always matched up with FSU or Miami in super regionals if one is a national top eight seed and the other is not. This year, we would host FSU. I would rather drop down to the 2 or 3 overall seed. Also interesting that Florida is the #1 overall seed but failed to win their SEC East Division, SEC Conference, and SEC Tournament.
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Post by tigercpa on May 31, 2016 17:54:11 GMT
NCAA Baseball Tournament seeding process is a joke. They seed the top 8 overall 1-8 but then for 9-16 overall, which decides who matches up with who during super regionals, they go by geography. So rather than the super regionals having 1v16, 2v15, 3v14, etc if seedings hold true, you could have the #1 overall seed hosting #9 overall while a #8 overall hosts a #16 overall. Florida is almost always matched up with FSU or Miami in super regionals if one is a national top eight seed and the other is not. This year, we would host FSU. I would rather drop down to the 2 or 3 overall seed. Also interesting that Florida is the #1 overall seed but failed to win their SEC East Division, SEC Conference, and SEC Tournament. Agree on your thoughts.
Clemson again paired with SCAR in potential super-regional action, assuming neither screws up.
Why not change it up a little, have Clemson and FLA pair, and then SCAR and FSU pair...
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Post by Bevo on May 31, 2016 23:54:23 GMT
NCAA Baseball Tournament seeding process is a joke.
You must be mistaken. The NCAA is infallible.
It is known.
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Post by Hero on Jun 1, 2016 0:43:11 GMT
NCAA Baseball Tournament seeding process is a joke.
You must be mistaken. The NCAA in infallible.
It is known.
It is known |
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Post by GatorGrad on Jun 1, 2016 13:12:07 GMT
NCAA Baseball Tournament seeding process is a joke.
You must be mistaken. The NCAA is infallible.
It is known.
Ha. Thing is, I actually think that they do a pretty good job seeding the basketball tournament for the most part. I don't know why they don't follow the same guidelines when it comes to baseball. If you are going to pre-determine 16 hosts for regionals, why wouldn't you seed all 16 of them? Instead, they only seed 1-8 and they do whatever they please with the super regional pairings. |
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Post by Bevo on Jun 1, 2016 13:27:11 GMT
You must be mistaken. The NCAA is infallible.
It is known.
Ha. Thing is, I actually think that they do a pretty good job seeding the basketball tournament for the most part. I don't know why they don't follow the same guidelines when it comes to baseball. If you are going to pre-determine 16 hosts for regionals, why wouldn't you seed all 16 of them? Instead, they only seed 1-8 and they do whatever they please with the super regional pairings.
Ha! You won't find many Kentucky fans who agree with you on NCAA BB Seeding. We got SCREWED this year... just because they wanted a UK-Indiana matchup.
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Post by GatorGrad on Jun 1, 2016 17:20:29 GMT
Ha. Thing is, I actually think that they do a pretty good job seeding the basketball tournament for the most part. I don't know why they don't follow the same guidelines when it comes to baseball. If you are going to pre-determine 16 hosts for regionals, why wouldn't you seed all 16 of them? Instead, they only seed 1-8 and they do whatever they please with the super regional pairings.
Ha! You won't find many Kentucky fans who agree with you on NCAA BB Seeding. We got SCREWED this year... just because they wanted a UK-Indiana matchup.
I knew you would bring up UK Hoops as an example and I know there are flaws there too. There will always be teams who disagree with their seeding. The problem I have in baseball is that they don't even go by seeding when determining the super regional matchups. If you are going to have national 1-8 seeds, is it really that much work to also seed the 9th - 16th teams so that the all important super regional round is fair and balanced? And speaking of super regionals, the other problem I have with the baseball tournament is that the format changes each round. Teams go from a four-team double-elimination tournament in the first stage, then a two-team super regional where it is best two of three, then in the CWS back to a four-team double-elimination tournament, then for the final series a two-team best two of three. Why do we flip back and forth between two very different formats? No other sports do this round by round. What I wish they would do is open with the four-team double-elimination regionals as they do now, but then have those 16 teams feed into four super regionals, each with their own four-team double-elimination tournament...and then those four super regional champs advance to the CWS to play yet another four-team double elimination tournament to decide the champion. Each of the three rounds would follow the same exact format with a four-team double-elimination tournament. Just like basketball you go from 64 to 16 to 4. Just like in basketball and now football, there is a college "final four." Of course that means that only four teams get to Omaha instead of the traditional eight so it would of course never happen. |
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Post by doc on Jun 1, 2016 17:49:08 GMT
I know northern baseball teams don't populate many of the 64 spots but three teams from Ohio made this year's field; Ohio State, Xavier and Wright State. I work at X and know the coach pretty well - great guy and his team is a pretty cool story. They lost their first 7 and 12 of their first 15 and wound up winning the Big East season and tournament championships. They played some strong teams early which had to help them as the season went on. I think they're 30-28 at this point - they won 17 of their last 21 games. They did lose to both Ohio state and Wright State.
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Post by tigercpa on Jun 1, 2016 21:31:53 GMT
I know northern baseball teams don't populate many of the 64 spots but three teams from Ohio made this year's field; Ohio State, Xavier and Wright State. I work at X and know the coach pretty well - great guy and his team is a pretty cool story. They lost their first 7 and 12 of their first 15 and wound up winning the Big East season and tournament championships. They played some strong teams early which had to help them as the season went on. I think they're 30-28 at this point - they won 17 of their last 21 games. They did lose to both Ohio state and Wright State. Have you seen this kid from Rhode Island pitch? He's 12-1 this year.
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Post by Bevo on Jun 2, 2016 1:58:43 GMT
Hard to say GG, which is worse ? Doing NO seeding at all ? Or, saying you're seeding and then doing it unfairly ?
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Post by bluehen on Jun 2, 2016 2:55:35 GMT
I agree with GG about the seedings being a bit unfair.....and other things are questionable too. The NCAA D1 football championship is also not perfect.... a little too geography driven beyond the top 4 seeds. However, it is all inclusive and no teams get voted directly into champ games or even semi-finals . Teams must play and 'earn' their way into those slots, so it's still much better than the mythical - beauty contest system of big TV college football...and the champion receives an NCAA trophy, not a Dr.Pepper trophy.
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Post by Hero on Jun 2, 2016 3:46:20 GMT
I agree with GG about the seedings being a bit unfair.....and other things are questionable too. The NCAA D1 football championship is also not perfect.... a little too geography driven beyond the top 4 seeds. However, it is all inclusive and no teams get voted directly into champ games or even semi-finals . Teams must play and 'earn' their way into those slots, so it's still much better than the mythical - beauty contest system of big TV college football...and the champion receives an NCAA trophy, not a Dr.Pepper trophy. Do you have a comment about Baseball? Laughing |
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Post by Bevo on Jun 2, 2016 6:02:58 GMT
and the champion receives an NCAA trophy, not a Dr.Pepper trophy.
Let's review the options:
Option 1: NCAA Trophy and a nice pat on the back, Option 2: Dr. Pepper Trophy plus a $60M check for my conference?
I'll take Option 2.
The NCAA has plenty of champions to give trophies to. They don't need the CFP. and, vice-versa.
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Post by bluehen on Jun 2, 2016 18:30:32 GMT
The National Dr. Pepper champion !!!
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