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Post by Hero on Jul 3, 2017 18:48:11 GMT
I think I was HACKED! Muh Russians! BAHAHAHAHAAHA!
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Post by Hero on Jul 3, 2017 18:51:56 GMT
You devised a grand conspiracy theory -- out of thin air. Pure speculation, without a shred of supporting evidence. I didn't create this theory. It's one that's been circulated by many in the "right leaning" media. It does require SOME speculation, but there IS supporting evidence. Not that "anonymous" kid either... it's from named journalist who had open access to the Clinton campaign. Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign Book by Amie Parnes and Jonathan Allen www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/21/shattered-revelation-clinton-campaign-hatched-russian-hacking-narrative-24-hours-after-hillarys-loss/My own theories are FAR MORE creative. I think, the Podesta email leaks were an inside leak, from a pissed off Bernie backer. For which he paid dearly.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 3, 2017 19:54:54 GMT
That is further evidence of Trump's paranoia. Nothing more. Sick puppy. Or, far more likely than your assessment of his state, that Rogers indicated that Trump Tower was subject to surveillance.
If Trump was under surveillance, why hasn't his administration been unable to uncover it? Ineptitude or it didn't happen. Which?
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 3, 2017 19:59:16 GMT
Bevo: Actually, yes - it was only 4 agencies, as per the NYTimes correction, that prepared the analysis and report.
FHF: That doesn't mean that other intelligence agencies were not involved! You are still ducking my question: can you show that no other U.S. intelligence agency participated in the investigation and analysis?
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 3, 2017 20:24:36 GMT
You devised a grand conspiracy theory -- out of thin air. Pure speculation, without a shred of supporting evidence. I didn't create this theory. It's one that's been circulated by many in the "right leaning" media. It does require SOME speculation, but there IS supporting evidence. Not that "anonymous" kid either... it's from named journalist who had open access to the Clinton campaign. Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign Book by Amie Parnes and Jonathan Allen www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/21/shattered-revelation-clinton-campaign-hatched-russian-hacking-narrative-24-hours-after-hillarys-loss/My own theories are FAR MORE creative. I think, the Podesta email leaks were an inside leak, from a pissed off Bernie backer. IF Russia was involved at all? It was only to send a message to Hillary that they had access to ALL of HER emails, and were planning to blackmail her with them. I don't believe for a second that the Russians ever thought Hillary would lose to Trump. I also believe the press is ignoring the REAL "scandal of the century"... the "worse than Watergate" scandal. I think Obama was using the "USIC" to spy on the Trump campaign. Clapper, Brennan, and yes... beloved Comey were all well aware of what was going on. And, they invented, and/or hyped the "Russian Hacking narrative" to cover their tracks. That's MY theory. I suspect, one day... the truth will be revealed. Heaven only knows how long that will take. You avoided my simple question. Are you contending that no U.S. intelligence agency, beyond the four, participated in the investigation and analysis of the Russian hackings and interference in the election? I'm not avoiding anything... I've already answered this, with the quotes from NYT and AP. You, apparently, just don't bother to read my posts? You also ducked my question as to who supposedly duped me. Further evidence that you don't read my replies. Nothing wrong with having theories, as long as you don't portray theories as fact. But, that is exactly what you did: "The TRUTH was, this lie was started by Brennan, Clapper and Comey. It helped add "gravitas" to their claims... which, many doubted because of their well-known high level of partisanship." As you have admitted, it is speculation! There is a simple way to find out. There is nothing stopping a congressional committee from investigating, and issuing subpoenaes to Clapper, Comey and Brennan, along with the heads of all other intelligence agencies. Why isn't this being done? Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence. Does that mean that no one else participated in its creation? Four of the intelligence agencies wrote the assessment. Does that mean that none of the other 13 agencies participated in the investigation and analysis? You can't name the person or persons who supposedly duped me for one simple reason: I wasn't duped! Each and every one of the 17 intelligence agencies is under the umbrella of the Trump administration. How many of the heads of the remaining 13 agencies have come forward and denied that their agencies did not participate in the investigation and analysis? All work for Donald Trump.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 4, 2017 11:33:50 GMT
Or, far more likely than your assessment of his state, that Rogers indicated that Trump Tower was subject to surveillance.
If Trump was under surveillance, why hasn't his administration been unable to uncover it? Ineptitude or it didn't happen. Which? How do you know they haven't uncovered it?
The Obama admin recently filed and self-reported to the FISA court that that had been illegally spying on US Citizens for years.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 4, 2017 11:56:03 GMT
Bevo: Actually, yes - it was only 4 agencies, as per the NYTimes correction, that prepared the analysis and report. FHF: That doesn't mean that other intelligence agencies were not involved! You are still ducking my question: can you show that no other U.S. intelligence agency participated in the investigation and analysis? So we need to prove a negative?
Liken this to the Declaration of Independence....many people signed the document, but a committee of 5 actually crafted it...
Brennan and Comey and Clapper kept the group small - easier to conceal and control what was happening and the flow of information.
Unfortunately for Comey, he's been left holding the smoldering bag of excrement, as Brennan and Clapper already made their way to the exits.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 4, 2017 12:10:15 GMT
Bevo: How do you know they haven't uncovered it?
FHF: Because Trump isn't shouting it from the rooftops.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 4, 2017 12:47:59 GMT
tigercpa: So we need to prove a negative? FHF: Good grief. It is so simple. What is stopping any enterprising reporter, conservative or liberal, from asking each of the heads of the 13 remaining intelligence agencies if their respective agencies participated in the investigation and analysis, and if their respective agencies dissent from the findings? What is stopping any of several congressional committees from inviting the heads of all 13 of the remaining intelligence agencies to appear to answer the same questions? So simple. So quick. Totally conclusive.
tigercpa: Liken this to the Declaration of Independence....many people signed the document, but a committee of 5 actually crafted it... FHF: Do you believe that no one outside of the committee had any input into the Declaration of Independence?
tigercpa: Brennan and Comey and Clapper kept the group small - easier to conceal and control what was happening and the flow of information. FHF: You just made that up.
tigercpa: Unfortunately for Comey, he's been left holding the smoldering bag of excrement, as Brennan and Clapper already made their way to the exits. FHF: None of the three is currently a government official. All, however, can be invited to appear before a congressional committee, or required to do so by subpoena.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 4, 2017 16:20:31 GMT
tigercpa: So we need to prove a negative? FHF: Good grief. It is so simple. What is stopping any enterprising reporter, conservative or liberal, from asking each of the heads of the 13 remaining intelligence agencies if their respective agencies participated in the investigation and analysis, and if their respective agencies dissent from the findings? What is stopping any of several congressional committees from inviting the heads of all 13 of the remaining intelligence agencies to appear to answer the same questions? So simple. So quick. Totally conclusive. tigercpa: Liken this to the Declaration of Independence....many people signed the document, but a committee of 5 actually crafted it... FHF: Do you believe that no one outside of the committee had any input into the Declaration of Independence? tigercpa: Brennan and Comey and Clapper kept the group small - easier to conceal and control what was happening and the flow of information. FHF: You just made that up. tigercpa: Unfortunately for Comey, he's been left holding the smoldering bag of excrement, as Brennan and Clapper already made their way to the exits. FHF: None of the three is currently a government official. All, however, can be invited to appear before a congressional committee, or required to do so by subpoena. Do you need to take the TOEFL test?
The NY Times stated 4 agencies were involved in preparing the analysis. Who cares if the other 13 did, it's all a ruse anyway...they'd probably rather not be associated with it.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 4, 2017 16:22:51 GMT
Just like back in early June:
The MSM attempts to construct a narrative about President Trump interfering with intelligence agencies and investigative agencies took a big hit today as Mike Rogers (NSA), Dan Coats (ODNI), Andrew McCabe (FBI) and Rod Rosenstein (DOJ) each took turns telling the Senate Intelligence Committee that President Trump never attempted to interfere with their efforts.
The fake narrative is collapsing all around.
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Post by Hero on Jul 4, 2017 16:37:42 GMT
Just like back in early June: The MSM attempts to construct a narrative about President Trump interfering with intelligence agencies and investigative agencies took a big hit today as Mike Rogers (NSA), Dan Coats (ODNI), Andrew McCabe (FBI) and Rod Rosenstein (DOJ) each took turns telling the Senate Intelligence Committee that President Trump never attempted to interfere with their efforts. The fake narrative is collapsing all around. Herd will hold it up.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 4, 2017 20:49:30 GMT
tigercpa: Do you need to take the TOEFL test? FHF: Back to the personal insults?
tigercpa: The NY Times stated 4 agencies were involved in preparing the analysis. FHF: Why are you opposed to learning the truth first-hand, from the heads of each of the 13 intelligence agencies?
tigercpa: Who cares if the other 13 did FHF: Until now, I thought that it was important to you.
tigercpa: it's all a ruse anyway... FHF: You don't know that. You might be hoping, but that doesn't make it so.
tigercpa: they'd probably rather not be associated with it. FHF: Back to mind reading? What could possibly be wrong with learning the truth first-hand?
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 4, 2017 20:54:45 GMT
Just like back in early June: The MSM attempts to construct a narrative about President Trump interfering with intelligence agencies and investigative agencies took a big hit today as Mike Rogers (NSA), Dan Coats (ODNI), Andrew McCabe (FBI) and Rod Rosenstein (DOJ) each took turns telling the Senate Intelligence Committee that President Trump never attempted to interfere with their efforts. The fake narrative is collapsing all around. Herd will hold it up. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump attempted to interfere with the intelligence agencies and the FBI, but I haven't seen any evidence that he has attempted to do so -- yet. But, why did you just accuse me of supporting an unsubstantiated allegation?
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Post by Bevo on Jul 4, 2017 21:10:06 GMT
LOL When the New York Times and AP go to the trouble to issue a correction, I think they've got their facts straight. They can admit it, but NOT YOU! You stand firm in your assertion that the Coast Guard and Air Force and Geo-Spatial agencies were fully supportive of the "Russians hacked Hillary to help Trump" meme. Like a shining colossus of ignorance in a desert of shifting sands. I admit I was "duped" (by you) ... I actually thought you'd come around to reality.
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