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Post by tigercpa on Sept 17, 2017 15:17:05 GMT
Your current S&P+ top 5 if there were no preseason projections:
1. Miss State
2. Penn State
3. Okla State
4. Washington
5. Wake Forest |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Sept 17, 2017 15:54:16 GMT
Your current S&P+ top 5 if there were no preseason projections:
1. Miss State
2. Penn State
3. Okla State
4. Washington
5. Wake Forest Good point. The preseason polls prejudice the polls for the entire season. |
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Post by Hero on Sept 17, 2017 16:25:58 GMT
Your current S&P+ top 5 if there were no preseason projections:
1. Miss State
2. Penn State
3. Okla State
4. Washington
5. Wake Forest I would be shocked to say the least. Alabama and Oklahoma with top ten wins and Clemson with two top thirty wins...all three teams undefeated. |
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Post by EvilVodka on Sept 17, 2017 19:12:03 GMT
Your current S&P+ top 5 if there were no preseason projections:
1. Miss State
2. Penn State
3. Okla State
4. Washington
5. Wake Forest Wake Forest should be #1 |
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Post by bluehen on Sept 17, 2017 20:20:22 GMT
The free head start system of these polls stinks
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Post by Bevo on Sept 18, 2017 2:32:36 GMT
Your current S&P+ top 5 if there were no preseason projections:
1. Miss State
2. Penn State
3. Okla State
4. Washington
5. Wake Forest Bunk |
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Post by Hero on Sept 18, 2017 11:31:05 GMT
Your current S&P+ top 5 if there were no preseason projections:
1. Miss State
2. Penn State
3. Okla State
4. Washington
5. Wake Forest Wake Forest should be #1 I'll have what he's having. Laughing  |
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Post by bluehen on Sept 18, 2017 12:41:14 GMT
If there were no pre-season polls ......maybe a little less fun but the average CF fan's IQ would increase by 10 points. All 130 0-0 records should have exact equal value in August before a single FB is snapped.
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Post by Hero on Sept 18, 2017 20:51:29 GMT
If there were no pre-season polls ......maybe a little less fun but the average CF fan's IQ would increase by 10 points. All 130 0-0 records should have exact equal value in August before a single FB is snapped. Who said they didn't have equal value? |
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Post by bluehen on Sept 18, 2017 21:15:31 GMT
If there were no pre-season polls ......maybe a little less fun but the average CF fan's IQ would increase by 10 points. All 130 0-0 records should have exact equal value in August before a single FB is snapped. Who said they didn't have equal value? The pre-season pollsters |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Sept 18, 2017 21:19:17 GMT
The CFP has one thing right - no rankings until the season is well under way.
The influence of the preconceived biases could be reduced considerably if the polls were deferred until the season reached the halfway point.
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Post by Hero on Sept 18, 2017 21:33:20 GMT
There was a time when polls mattered.
Now they don't.
I can't understand the continued interest.
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Post by Bevo on Sept 18, 2017 21:54:35 GMT
Who said they didn't have equal value? The pre-season pollsters The pollsters are ranking the value of the records. They're ranking THEIR PERCEIVED quality of the team. Nothing more. They're "OPINION POLLS".... that's it. It's not impossible to make a considered value judgement... even before a game has been played. |
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Post by bluehen on Sept 19, 2017 2:07:19 GMT
There was a time when polls mattered. Now they don't. I can't understand the continued interest. That's debatable, Hero. Who knows if and to what degree these , so called, DPI committee people are aware of these dopey polls ? They can't pretend they don't exist and isn't it reasonable to think they possibly might be thinking what or how many 'ranked' teams their DPI contenders beat, played, lost to etc.etc  , .Very hard to completely get away from the 145 year old opinion based mythical system of big time CF, no matter what the latest mythical concoction of that system is. PLAYOFF !!!...because playing is better than voting. |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Sept 19, 2017 2:53:40 GMT
Phil Steele predicts the AP poll months before it is first released, with considerable accuracy. But, that prediction is often at significant deviance from his personal projection.
Even with Randy Moss leaving early for the NFL, I was confident that 1999 Marshall had a top-10 team. So did nearly every preseason journal. Most predicted that Marshall would run the table and be ranked in the top-10 by the end of the season, which is exactly what happened. Yet, not one ranked Marshall in the top-25 preseason, and neither did the AP or Coaches polls. Lesser teams were given the benefit of the doubt.
I have oft wondered where Marshall would have ended up in the final rankings if the Herd was ranked #10 at the beginning of the season, rather than being ranked outside of the top-25.
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, .Very hard to completely get away from the 145 year old opinion based mythical system of big time CF, no matter what the latest mythical concoction of that system is.