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Post by Bevo on Nov 1, 2017 0:07:49 GMT
Not that it means much, but...
1) Georgia
2) Bama
3) Notre Dame
4) Clemson
5) Oklahoma
6) Ohio State
No love for the undefeated teams. Clemson gets credit for their terrific SOS. OU still getting credit for beating the SNOT out of Ohio State. And just in case there was ANY doubt, Notre Dame is STILL loved by the 'powers that be".
I watched the Top 25 show on ESPN... at least, the first 20 minutes, as the announcements were made. They talked about EVERY TEAM... except, UCF.
too funny.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 1, 2017 0:17:12 GMT
Not that it means much, but... 1) Georgia 2) Bama 3) Notre Dame 4) Clemson 5) Oklahoma 6) Ohio State No love for the undefeated teams. Clemson gets credit for their terrific SOS. OU still getting credit for beating the SNOT out of Ohio State. And just in case there was ANY doubt, Notre Dame is STILL loved by the 'powers that be". I watched the Top 25 show on ESPN... at least, the first 20 minutes, as the announcements were made. They talked about EVERY TEAM... except, UCF. too funny. No UCF? They are undefeated, same as Bama and Georgia.
Puzzling.
Also, I love these fools on twitter and facebook writing these violent 6 paragraph screeds on this team should be #x and that team should be #x, and end with well, none this matters anyway...
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Post by Bevo on Nov 1, 2017 0:31:21 GMT
Not that it means much, but... 1) Georgia 2) Bama 3) Notre Dame 4) Clemson 5) Oklahoma 6) Ohio State No love for the undefeated teams. Clemson gets credit for their terrific SOS. OU still getting credit for beating the SNOT out of Ohio State. And just in case there was ANY doubt, Notre Dame is STILL loved by the 'powers that be". I watched the Top 25 show on ESPN... at least, the first 20 minutes, as the announcements were made. They talked about EVERY TEAM... except, UCF. too funny. No UCF? They are undefeated, same as Bama and Georgia.
Puzzling.
UCF is getting penalized for playing one less game... and, nobody. ;-)
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 1, 2017 0:43:10 GMT
Clemson, Alabama and tOSU only schools to appear in all 20 CFP rankings.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 1, 2017 12:13:43 GMT
1. Georgia (8-0; SOR 1 / SOS 36)
I don’t think anybody outside of Athens is going to tell you they think Georgia is a better team than Alabama, but this is the correct team to have at No. 1 in the rankings at this point of the season. Georgia’s profile is just objectively better than Alabama’s right now and hinges on the Bulldogs win at No. 3 Notre Dame, but that’s light-years better than anything the Tide can claim right now.
2. Alabama (8-0; SOR 4 / SOS 51)
As stated above, not enough meat on Alabama’s resume right now to objectively rank them above Georgia. Like most of you guys, I think the Tide would beat the Bulldogs head to head, and you can bring something like that into the conversation when resumes are similar enough.
3. Notre Dame (7-1; SOR 7 / SOS 13)
Three wins against CFP top-25 teams and a one-point loss to the No. 1 team - credentials to slot the Irish comfortably in the top 4. It’s perhaps feasible that lacking a conference championship could force Notre Dame out of the field in a specific scenario, but odds are the Irish - with four games remaining against quality competition - like Bevo said a while back - are a Playoff guarantee if they win out.
4. Clemson (7-1; SOR 3 / SOS 5)
Clemson has the No. 3 strength of record, two wins over top-15 teams, and the No. 5 strength of schedule. Aside from Notre Dame (13), no other team close to the Tigers in the poll cracks the top 20 SOS. The Tigers have by far the worst loss of any team in the top-4 conversation, but it simply doesn’t outweigh the other factors at play.
5. Oklahoma (7-1; SOR 5 / SOS 24)
I think they will crash and burn sooner rather than later. That said, although people may be surprised to see them ranked this highly, it’s about where they should be. A No. 5 strength of record, the nation’s second best win, and a loss that is looking better each passing week warrants this kind of positioning as it stands right now. This week’s Bedlam matchup with Oklahoma State will be a Playoff eliminator for one of the participants.
6. Ohio State (7-1; SOR 9 / SOS 35)
The Buckeyes jumping into the top 4 in the first poll were unfounded, if you removed the recency bias of their win at Penn State this past week. That single victory wasn’t enough to lift up a resume that includes a bunch of meaningless wins and a 15-point home loss to Oklahoma - a team which is rightfully ranked ahead of Ohio State.
7. Penn State (7-1; SOR 6 / SOS32)
After falling just one point shy of being in great position to make the Playoff, the Nittany Lions are now in very bad position, largely because they are the only team in the top 15 that doesn’t control its own destiny in a conference championship race.
8. TCU (7-1; SOR10 / SOS48)
The Horned Frogs turned in a terrible performance in their first loss of the season at Iowa State, but they are far from out of the running and can notch a Big XII title if they win out.
9. Wisconsin (8-0; SOR11/ SOS80)
Cmmittee made a clear statement that it will not give you the benefit of the doubt if you are undefeated and haven’t played anybody (see also: UCF)Seriously, The Badgers are five games into conference play and still rank just 80th nationally in strength of schedule, with only a home triumph over Northwestern as something you could even remotely describe as a “quality win.” Upcoming games against Iowa and Michigan could help some, but this team basically has to go 13-0...
10. Miami (8-0; SOR2 / SOS38)
Miami should be treated about the same as Wisconsin, as their undefeated record doesn’t include any great win(s) to hang that their hat on. The anomaly regarding the Hurricanes, however, is their strength of record (which is incredibly No. 2 behind only Georgia). Now, the committee obviously doesn't truist Miami, and recent games would support that.
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 1, 2017 14:35:38 GMT
FSU should be a top win for Alabama, but they're not!!!! because we suck hahahahahaha eh....
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Post by Bevo on Nov 1, 2017 15:14:12 GMT
FSU should be a top win for Alabama, but they're not!!!! because we suck hahahahahaha eh.... Maybe, they suck cause Bama put a beatdown on them!
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 1, 2017 15:42:43 GMT
FSU should be a top win for Alabama, but they're not!!!! because we suck hahahahahaha eh.... Maybe, they suck cause Bama put a beatdown on them! everyone has put the beatdown on FSU though
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Post by doc on Nov 1, 2017 15:46:40 GMT
FSU should be a top win for Alabama, but they're not!!!! because we suck hahahahahaha eh.... Maybe, they suck cause Bama put a beatdown on them! BC kicked their ass worse than Alabama, basically the 'Noles have quit - they will most likely go 4-8 or worse.
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Post by Bevo on Nov 1, 2017 16:35:42 GMT
Maybe, they suck cause Bama put a beatdown on them! everyone has put the beatdown on FSU though Yes... but they are all "sloppy seconds" after BAMA took out Francois.
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 1, 2017 19:34:26 GMT
everyone has put the beatdown on FSU though Yes... but they are all "sloppy seconds" after BAMA took out Francois. the offense has actually been playing ok at times...Blackman is good what's really hurting FSU is the weak coaching. Jimbo is a good offensive coach, but his coaching staff is horrible... Charles Kelly (D. Coordinator) doesn't know how to effectively get the most out of a very good defense. They are unfocused and undisciplined. Derwin James will be an NFL starter...He's one of the best players in the nation. Charles Kelly isn't the guy FSU had for the National Championship...that guy is the Bama D. Coordinator now The O-line coach is a guy named Trickett...he was under Bowden towards the end and got absorbed into the Jimbo coaching staff. His glory days are behind him, and the O-line has been a joke for a couple of seasons now. Francois has been beaten to a pulp very early in his career Special Teams is really stupid...very undisciplined The bad coaching has been covered up by Jimbo's offensive playcalling and the sheer talent FSU puts out every year, but it's finally rearing it's ugly head. Jimbo is going to have to make changes or else it is going to sink him So I think pointing at Bama as the cause is incorrect. These problems started back in '14 when FSU had to come from great deficits to win games. OLine blocking has steadily gone down hill. FSU started out last season in the crapper and got annihilated by Lamar Jackson, but Dalvin Cook emerged and sort of saved the season Hurt QB, postponed games, etc. have hurt FSU, but finally exposed the failure of coaching in several key areas...I personally think FSU would do fine without Jimbo. They could pick up another coach and keep rolling
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 1, 2017 20:03:09 GMT
I think Jimbo has lost this team....players talking about doing whatever they want on the field, etc.
FSu is 3 games under .500 for the first time since '76.
Kicker Ricky Aguayo summed it up pretty well when he stated that “I just feel like we’re scared to lose now”.
That being said, I bet they lay like the Patriots when they come to Clemson.
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 1, 2017 20:25:51 GMT
That being said, I bet they lay like the Patriots when they come to Clemson. Haha, you know they will....Clemson is FSU's bowl game now I agree, Jimbo has lost the team...I think there will be lots of changes in the offseason
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