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Post by Bevo on Nov 25, 2017 15:04:33 GMT
Maryland looked pretty good when we played them. But, playing two games less than everyone is a killer. I think the committee has intentionally ranked them lower than they deserve to prevent them from getting any expectations. Some teams get by on the eyeball test ( Bama) although not playing top competition. BAMA gets by because: 1) They've been in the CFP three years in a row, and have performed as well as anyone. Winning it all once. Playing well in a finals loss last year. 2) They've been #1-3 in recruiting for how many years? 3) They've dominated pretty much everyone they've played, even though they've suffered many losses. Bama has EARNED respect, with year after year of proven success. If UCF were to stay highly competitive, year after year, they'll also start to earn respect.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 25, 2017 15:30:11 GMT
Some teams get by on the eyeball test ( Bama) although not playing top competition. BAMA gets by because: 1) They've been in the CFP three years in a row, and have performed as well as anyone. Winning it all once. Playing well in a finals loss last year. 2) They've been #1-3 in recruiting for how many years? 3) They've dominated pretty much everyone they've played, even though they've suffered many losses. Bama has EARNED respect, with year after year of proven success. If UCF were to stay highly competitive, year after year, they'll also start to earn respect. That agrees with my point. Other teams get eliminated based on SOS. Bama is exempt from a weak SOS because Bama is Bama. Of course Bama has earned its reputation but it is definitely a double standard system...agree or disagree ? BTW, as long as UCF has an AAC patch on its jerseys it can win its next 40 games by 40 points each and still not get a sniff of an Invitational opportunity. The CFP is absolutely NOT an FBS championship. Its a P5 club Invitational event only.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 25, 2017 17:15:25 GMT
Agree. UCF would likely be a 3-4 loss team with Clemson's schedule. Wrong. UCF would still be undefeated with Clemson’s schedule. The fact is that no one has any idea. But, we ido know how UCF has performed vs. the teams on its schedule. Actually we have data and stats that can estimate that. There’s only a 3 % chance UCF would be undefeated with Cle sons schedule Bama Auburn Clemson and Oklahoma would beat UCF handily. I’m not sure UCF would beat GT
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 25, 2017 17:36:32 GMT
Some teams get by on the eyeball test ( Bama) although not playing top competition. BAMA gets by because: 1) They've been in the CFP three years in a row, and have performed as well as anyone. Winning it all once. Playing well in a finals loss last year. 2) They've been #1-3 in recruiting for how many years? 3) They've dominated pretty much everyone they've played, even though they've suffered many losses. Bama has EARNED respect, with year after year of proven success. If UCF were to stay highly competitive, year after year, they'll also start to earn respect. And recruiting is the biggest and most strongly correlated factor to infield performance.
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Post by Bevo on Nov 25, 2017 17:58:29 GMT
That agrees with my point. Other teams get eliminated based on SOS. Bama is exempt from a weak SOS because Bama is Bama. No... it doesn't agree with your point. It's not just that "Bama" is "Bama". It's the fact that Bama has been DOMINATING this sport for the past 10 years, at least. A little longer ago than that? They weren't. And, they didn't get the same benefit of the doubt. Two years ago, UCF was 0-12. Surely Hen, you can comprehend the difference? UCF has not established themselves yet. If Frost stayed, they probably would in the next couple of years. But, he won't.... why? Cause of one thing: MONEY. The P5 has it, the G5 doesn't. it is definitely a double standard system...agree or disagree ? If by "double standard" you mean, teams that are consistently dominating get preference over up-start teams with one good season? yea. Double standard. BTW, as long as UCF has an AAC patch on its jerseys it can win its next 40 games by 40 points each and still not get a sniff of an Invitational opportunity. The CFP is absolutely NOT an FBS championship. Its a P5 club Invitational event only. Your opinion. Some people believe Harvey Oswald was a Russian spy. Others believe Hillary Clinton is a human being and not a droid. To each his own. There are NO RULES... NONE... that prevent a G5 team from qualifying for the CFP. All they have to do is, meet the same criteria that other teams do. So far, no G5 school has been able to do it. UCF is certainly NOT doing that this year... albeit through no fault of their own. I still believe Houston would have made it last year, had they run the table. Sadly, they couldn't do it. If they play in this system long enough, it will happen.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 26, 2017 12:16:08 GMT
The system does what it was designed to.... What complaints are there? It’s been so well done. Best team has always gotten in.
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 26, 2017 12:56:52 GMT
The system does what it was designed to.... What complaints are there? It’s been so well done. Best team has always gotten in. The problem is that no one really knows what they have to do to get in. College football is the only sport where nobody knows where the finish line is
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Post by bluehen on Nov 26, 2017 13:32:41 GMT
The system does what it was designed to.... What complaints are there? It’s been so well done. Best team has always gotten in. Prove it, CPA...you or the committee can only speculate who the best teams are. "Best' is a guess only. 'Champion" can, indeed be proven and FBS does not have a playoff to yield an undisputed proven champion. An exclusive, 'voted' 4 team invitational does not get it done.
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Post by doc on Nov 26, 2017 15:39:53 GMT
I think they should move ahead of 2-loss teams They have one of the hottest offenses in the country, they should be part of the conversation for the playoff [br So they beat a lower ranked team next week and jump everyone ahead of them, ain't gonna happen! Every other championship game has higher ranked teams except possibly Stanford and they would pound UCF like they did ND. I will say the game on Friday was one of the best I've watched all year.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 26, 2017 16:01:46 GMT
I think they should move ahead of 2-loss teams They have one of the hottest offenses in the country, they should be part of the conversation for the playoff [br So they beat a lower ranked team next week and jump everyone ahead of them, ain't gonna happen! Every other championship game has higher ranked teams except possibly Stanford and they would pound UCF like they did ND. I will say the game on Friday was one of the best I've watched all year. You have no clue who would "pound" UCF. That kind of perception and speculating is why we have this moronic voted mythical system instead of a competition based championship.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 26, 2017 20:32:33 GMT
[br So they beat a lower ranked team next week and jump everyone ahead of them, ain't gonna happen! Every other championship game has higher ranked teams except possibly Stanford and they would pound UCF like they did ND. I will say the game on Friday was one of the best I've watched all year. You have no clue who would "pound" UCF. That kind of perception and speculating is why we have this moronic voted mythical system instead of a competition based championship. UCF has faced some killer defenses during the season...#129 ECU, #126 UCONN, #122 SMU, #111 MEM...on average they've faced the #92 ranked defense, according to NCAA.com But the chatter is UCF has a "high flying offense" though..... I'm reasonably certain the group I mentioned would "pound" UCF. The only team they played with a pulse on offense and defense...they nearly lost.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 26, 2017 22:36:09 GMT
You have no clue who would "pound" UCF. That kind of perception and speculating is why we have this moronic voted mythical system instead of a competition based championship. UCF has faced some killer defenses during the season...#129 ECU, #126 UCONN, #122 SMU, #111 MEM...on average they've faced the #92 ranked defense, according to NCAA.com But the chatter is UCF has a "high flying offense" though..... I'm reasonably certain the group I mentioned would "pound" UCF. The only team they played with a pulse on offense and defense...they nearly lost. Well, if UCF does win out it will draw some name brand P5 club team which will certainly pound UCF...therefore lets have a serious wager $$$$$ and I expect about 35 points and UCF since you're reasonably certain that UCF will get pounded. Can't wait. LSU was supposed to pound something called Troy.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 26, 2017 22:45:07 GMT
UCF has faced some killer defenses during the season...#129 ECU, #126 UCONN, #122 SMU, #111 MEM...on average they've faced the #92 ranked defense, according to NCAA.com But the chatter is UCF has a "high flying offense" though..... I'm reasonably certain the group I mentioned would "pound" UCF. The only team they played with a pulse on offense and defense...they nearly lost. Well, if UCF does win out it will draw some name brand P5 club team which will certainly pound UCF...therefore lets have a serious wager $$$$$ and I expect about 35 points and UCF since you're reasonably certain that UCF will get pounded. Can't wait. LSU was supposed to pound something called Troy. You said getting pounded was mythical, so I will spot you 35 mythical points.
If you are so confident, let's wager straight up...you don't need any points.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 26, 2017 23:57:42 GMT
The system does what it was designed to.... What complaints are there? It’s been so well done. Best team has always gotten in. The problem is that no one really knows what they have to do to get in. College football is the only sport where nobody knows where the finish line is Sure they do - go undefeated, or win as many games as possible and more games than your peers
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Post by Bevo on Nov 27, 2017 2:52:03 GMT
The problem is that no one really knows what they have to do to get in. College football is the only sport where nobody knows where the finish line is Sure they do - go undefeated, or win as many games as possible and more games than your peers Exactly. Everyone KNOWS what to do, they just struggle doing it. Win all your games against decent competition... Or, do the best you can, and hope everyone else does worse.
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