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Post by Hero on Dec 6, 2017 19:12:24 GMT
All I want is... for this crap to go away. It's been more than a year since the election. It's time to stop the daily quest for impeachment. There has been ZERO evidence of collusion, and no real explanation of why collusion would even be illegal if there was? All I've seen is: Evidence that Obama and his goons used false pretenses to spy on the Trump campaign, and to widely share the things they learned. Years ago, when Clinton was impeached, one of the arguments against doing it that always seemed possible to me was: If we do it, EVERY President in the modern era will continuously face the same threat, and we'll exist in a constant state of impeachment processes. For sure, Dems have been in that mode ever since. With W, and now with Trump. I don't think they'll be placated until they've returned the favor. R's didn't seem so interested in it with Obama. The daily drama is just over-the-top. Zero evidence. Sadly, it will never stop.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Dec 6, 2017 20:25:18 GMT
Here's a theory: FLynn grants an interview to FBI that he is not required to give. Flynn deliberately mis-states a detail that is in conflict with the word-for-word transcripts the FBI already has.... Flynn (and Trumps team) watch to see what Strzok will do with the info. Gotta admit that you have a terrific imagination...
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 6, 2017 20:29:36 GMT
Here's a theory: FLynn grants an interview to FBI that he is not required to give. Flynn deliberately mis-states a detail that is in conflict with the word-for-word transcripts the FBI already has.... Flynn (and Trumps team) watch to see what Strzok will do with the info. Gotta admit that you have a terrific imagination... Like I said, it's just a theory. We will see what happens. We've learned that with Trump, nothing is what it seems. He is a master strategist, bordering on genius. He plays at a very high level. It's refreshing, the only expertise Obama had was looking at himself in the mirror.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Dec 6, 2017 21:07:04 GMT
Just curious. Why all the angst about whether there was collusion?
Collusion would not have been illegal.
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 7, 2017 1:20:08 GMT
May 16 was the key date in this process - the day Trump met with Mueller at the White House to "interview for Comey's position".
My opinion remains that this is where Trump and Sessions gave Mueller 2 options:
1. Go to jail with the rest of the criminals from the previous administration, OR 2. Protect his legacy as the nation's top cop and patriot.
Hmmm.....
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Dec 7, 2017 2:00:58 GMT
“Got (sic) to jail with the rest of the criminals from the previous administration...”?
Say what?
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 7, 2017 12:43:58 GMT
“Got (sic) to jail with the rest of the criminals from the previous administration...”? Say what? Edited to "go"...thanks!
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 7, 2017 12:50:00 GMT
BREAKING: House Ways and Means Committee Votes to Refer Lois Lerner For Criminal Charges.
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Post by Bevo on Dec 7, 2017 13:37:18 GMT
BREAKING: House Ways and Means Committee Votes to Refer Lois Lerner For Criminal Charges. The fact that she's never been prosecuted has always been ALL the proof I needed that our Justice Dept was hopelessly politicized by Obama. Obama was 100% involved with the IRS abuse too. No question about it. I hope the truth is eventually known by all.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Dec 7, 2017 14:43:10 GMT
“Got (sic) to jail with the rest of the criminals from the previous administration...”? Say what? Edited to "go"...thanks!
Lol. I didn’t care about the spelling error. All of us are guilty - and often. What was threatening Mueller with jail all about? If he committed a crime, why should Trump block his prosecution under any circumstance? It smells like Trump was committing extortion.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Dec 7, 2017 14:44:19 GMT
BREAKING: House Ways and Means Committee Votes to Refer Lois Lerner For Criminal Charges. Best news I have heard in a while.
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 8, 2017 14:26:19 GMT
The case against former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn has taken a strange turn, as U.S. District Judge Rudolph Contreras abruptly recused himself Thursday night with no explanation. Contreras is an Obama appointee who also sat on the FISA court while the Trump team was under surveillance by the Obama administration. Judge Emmet Sullivan, an Bill Clinton appointee, was randomly assigned to take over the case after Contreras' recusal.
Of note, Contreras was appointed to the FISA court on May 19, 2016 - before the warrant to surveil one-time Trump advisor Carter Page was issued "in the summer" of 2016. It is unknown whether or not Contreras was involved in the decision, or whether he was involved in surveillance on Michael Flynn.
In fact, every single FISA Court judge was appointed during the Obama administration. How convenient.
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Post by Bevo on Dec 8, 2017 15:05:13 GMT
BREAKING: House Ways and Means Committee Votes to Refer Lois Lerner For Criminal Charges. Just wondering: where did you hear this? I've not seen it confirmed anywhere. Would be welcomed news. But, I doubt they have the balls. Only news I' seeing is: She's asking for ALL of her testimony to be SEALED, forever! She's worried about physical threats from Tea Party people. I bet she is.
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Post by Hero on Dec 8, 2017 17:11:45 GMT
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Post by tigercpa on Dec 8, 2017 19:03:35 GMT
BREAKING: House Ways and Means Committee Votes to Refer Lois Lerner For Criminal Charges. Just wondering: where did you hear this? I've not seen it confirmed anywhere. Would be welcomed news. But, I doubt they have the balls. Only news I' seeing is: She's asking for ALL of her testimony to be SEALED, forever! She's worried about physical threats from Tea Party people. I bet she is. Youa re correct, I missed the date when I saw it yesterday. Old news.
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