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Post by tigercpa on Jul 17, 2018 23:27:55 GMT
What say ye?
ACC – Clemson over Miami
Big 10 – Ohio State over Wisconsin
Big 12 – Texas over OU PAC 12 – Washington over Arizona
SEC – Auburn over UGA
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Post by kentflash_05 on Jul 18, 2018 0:31:40 GMT
I'll bite.
ACC) Clemson over Virginia Tech
Big Ten) Ohio State over Wisky
Big 12) Oklahoma over Texas
Pac 12) Washington over Utah
SEC Georgia over Alabama
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Post by bluehen on Jul 18, 2018 2:22:45 GMT
In either of these scenarios above Saban still gets voted into the Dr.Pepper Invitational
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Post by Hero on Jul 18, 2018 12:53:44 GMT
In either of these scenarios above Saban still gets voted into the Dr.Pepper Invitational I can live with that. |
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 18, 2018 13:41:04 GMT
I went contrarian in the SEC and Big 12 and Pac 12
I think Arizona, with their backfield can make some noise. Tate is a highlight reel at QB.
I didn't pick TCU or WV in the B12, which seem to be the trendy picks. But OU still needs to prove they aren't just Baker Mayfield.
The SEC West has some intrigue this year, with Jimbo at A&M and Morris at Arkie.
The problem is Jimbo is one of the slowest play callers in CFB over the last few seasons, and A&M doesn't have the players yet for his style of play. Even with the loads of talent Jimbo had at FSU....and A&M doesn't have that type of roster.
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Post by EvilVodka on Jul 20, 2018 22:54:35 GMT
What say ye?
ACC – Clemson over Miami
Big 10 – Ohio State over Wisconsin
Big 12 – Texas over OU PAC 12 – Washington over Arizona
SEC – Auburn over UGA
I tend to agree with this except I think Georgia over Alabama for the SEC |
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Post by redwood on Jul 23, 2018 23:13:46 GMT
Fla State over Miami
Ohio State over Nebraska
Alabama over Georgia
USC over Stanford
Oklahoma over Texas
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Post by Bevo on Jul 24, 2018 0:09:42 GMT
Ou HAS to be favored over Texas. They have much more proven talent.
The Horns have a shot, but..... We need a big step forward in performance.
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Post by Bevo on Jul 24, 2018 14:23:17 GMT
ACC- Clemson... and, no others. They've got a dynasty building there.
B1G- Ohio State... same, they are even MORE loaded this year than last. It's a SHOCK when they lose a game in-conference.
B12- It's OU's to claim, until someone can knock them off the perch. I think Kyler Murray is going to make people forget about Baker pretty fast. Texas has a shot (I hope). I expect TCU to be strong this year as well, and Iowa State is building a good foundation. They could make some more noise.
PacXII- I NEVER know what to think about those guys... I'll root for Washington. But, really... they should play in the afternoon if they want to be noticed.
SEC - Boy, it's going to be a slugfest in the SEC this year. I think we're getting back to day in the past where, they beat each other up. I'd be SHOCKED if any SEC makes it through the season undefeated. I could see a two-loss team winning the SEC title this year. Could be interesting for them... if some other conferences get undefeated teams. Hard to envision the SEC being left out of the CFP. But, it could happen... especially if, they lose several of those early season inter-conference matchups.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 24, 2018 19:19:40 GMT
The days of The SEC "beating each other up" is one of the great SEC myths, Bevo. It's strictly a popular perception. Specifically, the difficulty of running the SEC season gauntlet is SEC myth #22C.
Fact - there have been 60 undefeated SEC teams in 84 SEC football seasons....71.4 % chance that a team runs the SEC table....much higher chance than 5 of the other 'major' conferences ( including BE history).
Those 60 SEC in conference undefeated teams own a 369-0-9 record vs SEC competition ( .991 success rate vs SEC competition)
Those 60 SEC in conference undefeated teams own a 223-56-7 record vs the rest of college football in those unbeaten SEC seasons ( a .791 success rate out of conference )
.991 IN
.791 OUT
Significant difference in winning difficulty for those unbeaten SEC teams outside the relative safety of the SEC.
Another related SEC myth is the 'great difficulty of winning on the road in the SEC '. SEC visiting teams have a higher composite success rate than visiting teams in any other , so called, P5 league.
Let me know if I can help out with any other SEC mythology.
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Post by Bevo on Jul 24, 2018 20:26:36 GMT
The days of The SEC "beating each other up" is one of the great SEC myths, Bevo. It's strictly a popular perception. My recollection of the "day in the past when the SEC beat up each other" doesn't include ALL TIME data Hen. I was thinking more about the 1980's. During that time, SEC teams seemed to always lose 2-3 games in-conference, and take themselves out of the National Title hunt.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 25, 2018 1:45:34 GMT
The days of The SEC "beating each other up" is one of the great SEC myths, Bevo. It's strictly a popular perception. My recollection of the "day in the past when the SEC beat up each other" doesn't include ALL TIME data Hen. I was thinking more about the 1980's. During that time, SEC teams seemed to always lose 2-3 games in-conference, and take themselves out of the National Title hunt.
Bevo, buddy, your 'recollection' of the SEC 80s inspired me to research it.
There was no more SEC self cannibalization in the 1880s than anywhere else in CF....probably less. Dominating the SEC was still relatively easy for all the SEC champions and co-champions of that decade. No 2 or 3 loss SEC champs all decade long. Not picking on you...SEC mythology is rampant....very myth and perception driven..a product of the hype, folklore and imagery.
There were 14 SEC champions in the 1980s including 4 co-champions. The in conference composite record of those 14 champs/co champs was 80-7-2 ...a .910 success rate vs SEC competition. ( and 7 teams went unbeaten in the conf)
The SEC champs/co champs of the 80s posted a 5-7-1 bowl record vs the rest of college football....an underwhelming .392 success rate...showing one again that it was significantly tougher out of the conference than in the relatively safety of conference play.
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Post by Bevo on Jul 25, 2018 2:28:31 GMT
Lol. I’m not retired. So, it might be awhile before I find time to research. But, I have a pretty good recollection of that time. I lived in SEC country in 86-88... I don’t recall the SEC winning many titles back then. Auburn deserved it in 1983, but the fraud Miami team was awarded instead.
Bowl records are not always reliable measures of relative conference strengths... although, they often were the ONLY data we got. The TOP teams could be strong in other conferences, even though they played weaker inconference opponents. When top teams met in a bowl, it’s more a measure of how the TOP teams compare. Nothing more.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 25, 2018 3:45:36 GMT
Lol. I’m not retired. So, it might be awhile before I find time to research. But, I have a pretty good recollection of that time. I lived in SEC country in 86-88... I don’t recall the SEC winning many titles back then. Auburn deserved it in 1983, but the fraud Miami team was awarded instead. Bowl records are not always reliable measures of relative conference strengths... although, they often were the ONLY data we got. The TOP teams could be strong in other conferences, even though they played weaker inconference opponents. When top teams met in a bowl, it’s more a measure of how the TOP teams compare. Nothing more. Don't worry about research, Bevo...I'll take care of all that for ya 
If those 7 unbeaten SEC teams ( in conf) had looked better in PSEGs maybe some of them could have claimed more of those make believe/mythical national titles but 2-3-1 was the best they could do. ( 84 Florida, 5-0-1, was on probation and bowl ineligible). As was, UGA, Auburn and Florida were named pretend national champs in the 1980s by various mythical selectors.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 31, 2018 18:31:27 GMT
When cross-divisional scheduling doesn't go your way:
Boston College this year gets:
Clemson
FSU
VT
MIA
uggg....
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