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Post by EvilVodka on Jun 28, 2020 15:15:53 GMT
Hollywood has lost steam the last few years because they started interjecting political viewpoints into everything. Now we are seeing the same happen in ALL sports.
The latest bit of news is that the NBA will allow players to put social messages on their jerseys where their names would be, so expect a lot of BLM patches. Their shortened season starts at the end of July I believe.
Personally, I don't want basketball players that have made millions their whole lives pursuing political narratives. If you don't know by now, it's been proven that A) Black Lives Matter is an actual corporation, B) donating money to Black Lives Matter goes through a company called ActBlue, and C) ActBlue sends tons of money to the democratic party candidates. So how is supporting Black Lives Matter actually helping out black communities again?
So anyways, I see BLM as supporting one half of burning down cities and looting, and the other half as propping up democratic candidates. This is no doubt an antagonistic political movement.
So why the hell would I want to sit down and watch Lebron James (who is starting his own media company), walk around the court like a primadonna?
I'm beyond done with professional sports. No NBA. No NFL. And if I had ever watched soccer, I'd probably be quitting that too.
All of his has gone from ridiculous to beyond-stupid.
College football is having stupid issues as well, as "Woke" attacks on the Longhorn fightsong, no more Gator Chomp, Oregon-Oregon State renaming their "Civil War" game, the Mike Gundy garbage, and Kansas State players refusing to play until some student is removed from campus for his tweets.
Why are athletes running the country now?
I will try and hold on to my love for college football and college sports, but it's becoming much harder.
By the way, Clay Travis is having some interesting shows lately. His show is a great alternative to ESPN coverage, which is turned into utter crap.
I don't usually listen to him, but it is refreshing to see someone attempt to hold on to truth
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Post by Kentflash_05 on Jun 29, 2020 2:30:12 GMT
To me,and maybe I'm being overly dramatic here.....but its hard to think of a positive future for America nowadays. I'm just sitting back thinking when's it all gonna finally fall apart? I dont if its the constant bombardment of negative news via the media, or the infusion of politics into ever facet of our society that's been wearing me down....
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Post by EvilVodka on Jun 29, 2020 12:46:25 GMT
To me,and maybe I'm being overly dramatic here.....but its hard to think of a positive future for America nowadays. I'm just sitting back thinking when's it all gonna finally fall apart? I dont if its the constant bombardment of negative news via the media, or the infusion of politics into ever facet of our society that's been wearing me down.... I've always seen the media as less than truthful. I've never been a big Fox News person. Years ago, I would go to CNN as sort of a neutral news source
Today, mainstream media is a toxic soup of negativity. It fosters emotional, knee-jerk reaction. I would say "don't watch it", but it's become such a negative presence in today's culture. And I don't feel like ANY of our "leaders" (whether it's presidents, congressmen, governors, mayors, etc.) make any rational decisions based off of what people want. It's all reaction mode to the latest crisis the media has thrown out there
Ratings continue to go down for major networks. It is non-thinking TV with no rational thought or attempt at fixing any real problems. It's reaching a boiling point of insanity
I mean if black people think that removing Aunt Jemima is going to fix any problems at all, they've really got deep psychological problems. Our society has lost the ability to discern the truth and think rationally
Mainstream media has become the Eye of Sauron. Wherever the eye points at, the media shitstorm rains down chaos and negativity
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jun 29, 2020 17:35:56 GMT
The is clearly a difference from the phrase BLM and the organization. In the BLM mission statement they actually say that they want to disrupt the tradition family and replace it with extended family and villages raising our kids??? I think it is safe to say the 90% of those people who hold up those signs have no clue to what the BLM movement is.
Clearly the media continues to pollute the minds of anyone who is willing to be persuaded. I did spend one evening focusing on MSNBC and CNN when the riots were taking place. CNN and MSNBC would constantly focus on mostly peaceful riots with a few shots of Police Officers using there Billy Clubs. When I turned on to Fox News they showed the same city at the same time where building were set on fire and looters were running around with stolen goods.
I returned from a Vacation to Siesta Key over a week ago. On they way home my family set next to an African American and just starting talking football as he saw my OSU gear and he was a huge Nebraska fan. We talked about our families where he had several kids and what would do to keep them inline as he raised them. He was in his 50 and his wife passed away last year with cancer. He went through his issues being a rebel growing up but eventually went to school and got his masters and is now a teacher. During that conversation we stayed away from politics almost the entire time. At the very end he did share with me that he was totally against defunding the police and then I shared with him that what happened in Minnesota was tragic and that can certainly learn from what happened to do better. I also shared that I was aware that poeple of color do get treated differently at times and that we can also do better but the way things are right now we can't even add our voice in the conversation. In the end we were really both on the same page and it was a very healing conversation for my family and hopefully for him.
I think what I am getting at is that the media does nothing but pollute peoples minds and if you just tune it out then you will see that this world is not all that bad. Just go out in your neighborhoods and see how people of all races are treat each other and it will give you a whole new perspective. I know that we all have a desire to get informed but pick your resources carefully and stick to them. Then just go out and live your life.
I completely tuned out of ESPN and refuse to listen to Clay Travis because he completely botched the Urban Meyer story and never apologized. When it comes to news I did find out that Bill O'Reily has made it back on the air at first tv. As far as media goes I tune into the updated corona numbers for Ohio once a day and Tune into O'Reily at 8 pm when I can. You will find that this world is a much much better place when you live it as opposed to being told how it is.
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Post by doc on Jun 29, 2020 17:53:51 GMT
I never watch the news...I get all my info from Facebook and People Magazine, if it’s there it has to be true, right?😉
As for athletes being as bad politically as entertainers, I think now is just magnified by the media. Some have always been vocal but now there’s social media and when you tweet or whatever people see it instantly. I also think people go on rants without taking some time to decompress and let emotions ease. Once you push that send button, you’ve said it and someone somewhere is going to rip your opinion to shreds. I hate Twitter and the like, it’s horrible.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jun 29, 2020 18:54:58 GMT
My facebook account got hacked just before the virus. I tried to get it reinstate but now looking back it was probably the best thing that happened to me.
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Post by Kentflash_05 on Jun 30, 2020 0:12:24 GMT
My facebook account got hacked just before the virus. I tried to get it reinstate but now looking back it was probably the best thing that happened to me. My wife and I went on our Kayak's last night.......wife forgot to bring all the ratchet straps we needed to secure everything down, so a couple black kids whom saw us struggling actually came over and offered us theirs! The one kid actually said dont worry about taking it because they were cheap. Very cool.....I then proceeded to let them know the fishing hot spots in the area...... I just wish Trump would invoke a 30 media blackout because right now they're making everuthing worse
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Post by Bevo on Jul 1, 2020 0:42:38 GMT
You guys are inspiring. Candles bravely burning on a dark, dark night.
I've read... I love.... and, will respond when I can properly collect and organize my own thoughts.
But for now, thank you.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 1, 2020 13:58:38 GMT
If we don't follow Docs lead by using facebook and people magazine to get our news then I think we will be fine:)
Just be thankful you don't live in cities like NY Seattle or the entire left coast. Those cities are going to pay a hefty price for some bad decisions which we will get to learn from.
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Post by doc on Jul 1, 2020 14:00:16 GMT
My facebook account got hacked just before the virus. I tried to get it reinstate but now looking back it was probably the best thing that happened to me. Hopefully you recognized the sarcasm in my post about Facebook and People. Facebook is a shit show these days. Everyone spewing off about politics. I can't be 100% sure about this but I'm guessing there are very few people who have voted based on something they read on Facebook - at least I hope that's the case. What a colossal waste of time and yet, there are people who spend their entire day posting political diatribes from both sides - makes me sick. I was thinking about this the other day. Imagine all the inventions and tremendous innovations men and women have come up with through the ages. They've cured diseases, learned how to fly, gone to the moon, sent space probes to Mars, built skyscrapers over 100 stories tall, bridges that span miles, navigated the seas, gone to both poles, scaled the tallest mountains, written stories that have been around for centuries, developed light, created moving pictures, recorded sound, made instruments of all shapes and sizes, figured out how to transplant organs from one person to another and countless other miraculous things - the wonders the human mind has achieved is astounding, they've figured out some pretty amazing things. And yet, there are people who simply can't figure out how to just get along with each other. The fact that there are still people who hate based on skin color just shows how far we have to go. Every choice you make defines who you are but there's one thing none of us had the opportunity to choose and that's the color of our skin (unless you're Michael Jackson). I don't get it. I think I've mentioned this before but I went to Colonel White High School - a very diverse high school in Dayton, Ohio. Whites were definitely the minority. I was scared to death to go to this school - I had only gone to school with 3 or 4 black kids up to that point and everything I had ever heard about black people was bad. My parents had no trouble dropping the 'N' word. It was fairly common for my mom or dad to say, those 'GD 'N' words need to keep their asses on their own side of town. My dad would tell us black jokes that he heard at work. I'm sure that's how they were raised - my grandmothers were the sweetest women I've ever met in my life but they also hated blacks. So I start my freshman year of high school and my dad encourages me to play football. There were about 30 black kids on the team and less than 10 white kids. At first I was a bit scared but I quickly learned the black kids were just as scared of the white kids and we were all just a bunch of 13/14 year old kids trying to go to school - that was one thing we had in common. And I soon learned we had many other things in common. Long story short, they became more than my team mates, they became my friends. Going to that school was one of the most important periods of my life. It allowed me to live the Atticus Finch line - I was able to climb inside their skin and see what it was like to be them. And it was pretty ugly. My senior year we played Greenville High School. Greenville is a community about an hour north of Dayton. A small, farming community - I'm not sure of the number of blacks in Greenville back in the mid-seventies but I can tell you their football team didn't have any and I didn't see one black person in their fan base. So we're getting off the bus and as it happened, I was the first white kid to exit. All their fans were standing around watching us get off the bus as if we were an exhibit at a zoo. So when I got off the bus someone in their crowd yelled, 'Hey they have one white kid!' and they all cheered. That is one moment of my life that I'll never forget and the emotions I felt. i was embarrassed, I was pissed, but mostly I felt bad for my team mates. They played it off and laughed about it but I felt about an inch high. There was a little kid with his parents and he asked if he could get his picture taken with one of my black team mates to which the parent whispered - you can't do that, you'll scare them away! It was unbelievable. I wasn't a very good football player but on that day I had the game of my life. I was in on just about every tackle, the refs told our coaches they needed to calm #62 down. My coaches were shocked because I was never one of the most aggressive players but on that day I wanted to send a message - I was playing for my team mates. I'll never forget that day, it went a long way in shaping me into the person I am today. And 40+ years later I still contend that attending that high school was one of the greatest experiences of my life. I didn't learn a lot about Math or Science but I learned a ton about life.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 1, 2020 16:38:15 GMT
My facebook account got hacked just before the virus. I tried to get it reinstate but now looking back it was probably the best thing that happened to me. Hopefully you recognized the sarcasm in my post about Facebook and People. Facebook is a shit show these days. Everyone spewing off about politics. I can't be 100% sure about this but I'm guessing there are very few people who have voted based on something they read on Facebook - at least I hope that's the case. What a colossal waste of time and yet, there are people who spend their entire day posting political diatribes from both sides - makes me sick. I was thinking about this the other day. Imagine all the inventions and tremendous innovations men and women have come up with through the ages. They've cured diseases, learned how to fly, gone to the moon, sent space probes to Mars, built skyscrapers over 100 stories tall, bridges that span miles, navigated the seas, gone to both poles, scaled the tallest mountains, written stories that have been around for centuries, developed light, created moving pictures, recorded sound, made instruments of all shapes and sizes, figured out how to transplant organs from one person to another and countless other miraculous things - the wonders the human mind has achieved is astounding, they've figured out some pretty amazing things. And yet, there are people who simply can't figure out how to just get along with each other. The fact that there are still people who hate based on skin color just shows how far we have to go. Every choice you make defines who you are but there's one thing none of us had the opportunity to choose and that's the color of our skin (unless you're Michael Jackson). I don't get it. I think I've mentioned this before but I went to Colonel White High School - a very diverse high school in Dayton, Ohio. Whites were definitely the minority. I was scared to death to go to this school - I had only gone to school with 3 or 4 black kids up to that point and everything I had ever heard about black people was bad. My parents had no trouble dropping the 'N' word. It was fairly common for my mom or dad to say, those 'GD 'N' words need to keep their asses on their own side of town. My dad would tell us black jokes that he heard at work. I'm sure that's how they were raised - my grandmothers were the sweetest women I've ever met in my life but they also hated blacks. So I start my freshman year of high school and my dad encourages me to play football. There were about 30 black kids on the team and less than 10 white kids. At first I was a bit scared but I quickly learned the black kids were just as scared of the white kids and we were all just a bunch of 13/14 year old kids trying to go to school - that was one thing we had in common. And I soon learned we had many other things in common. Long story short, they became more than my team mates, they became my friends. Going to that school was one of the most important periods of my life. It allowed me to live the Atticus Finch line - I was able to climb inside their skin and see what it was like to be them. And it was pretty ugly. My senior year we played Greenville High School. Greenville is a community about an hour north of Dayton. A small, farming community - I'm not sure of the number of blacks in Greenville back in the mid-seventies but I can tell you their football team didn't have any and I didn't see one black person in their fan base. So we're getting off the bus and as it happened, I was the first white kid to exit. All their fans were standing around watching us get off the bus as if we were an exhibit at a zoo. So when I got off the bus someone in their crowd yelled, 'Hey they have one white kid!' and they all cheered. That is one moment of my life that I'll never forget and the emotions I felt. i was embarrassed, I was pissed, but mostly I felt bad for my team mates. They played it off and laughed about it but I felt about an inch high. There was a little kid with his parents and he asked if he could get his picture taken with one of my black team mates to which the parent whispered - you can't do that, you'll scare them away! It was unbelievable. I wasn't a very good football player but on that day I had the game of my life. I was in on just about every tackle, the refs told our coaches they needed to calm #62 down. My coaches were shocked because I was never one of the most aggressive players but on that day I wanted to send a message - I was playing for my team mates. I'll never forget that day, it went a long way in shaping me into the person I am today. And 40+ years later I still contend that attending that high school was one of the greatest experiences of my life. I didn't learn a lot about Math or Science but I learned a ton about life. Great story and yep I got the sarcasm. What part of Dayton did you grow up in. My guess it was on the North side not to far off of Salem.
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Post by doc on Jul 1, 2020 17:57:51 GMT
We lived off North Main - two blocks north of Hillcrest. Our street was Cliff Street, we were 3 houses away from Sandalwood Park, spent all our summers playing baseball there. That area is very run down and sad these days. I had a pretty good walk to CW...
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Post by Bevo on Jul 8, 2020 18:32:34 GMT
These are definitely crazy times. I love your point, Doc.. about how many incredible achievements humans have made, and yet we still can't get past tribalism. That's what racism is, at it's core: Tribalism. It's really not just color of skin. It's MY tribe against YOUR tribe. There are tons of examples of people with the same color skin hating and fighting against each other. It's been around as long as humans have been on this earth, and it's still alive and well.
The events of the past 6 weeks, since the tragic death of George Floyd, have left me dumbfounded. There is SO MUCH ignorance on display, it's hard to stomach. BLM is an Marxist, radical organization that, from it's founding, has been based on a lie. Remember "Hands up, don't shoot?" It was a LIE. Michael Brown did NOT die that way. Yet, how many people still believe it?
How many believe that Trayvon Martin was an innocent young black kid just walking home from the store, eating his Skittles when he was attacked and killed by the vigilante, George Zimmerman. That is a LIE. It didn't happen that way. Martin was the aggressor and he was well on his way to killing Zimmerman when he was shot. And yet, many of these protestors believe the first version.
BLM, and all these white liberal protestors run around saying cops are disproportionately killing black people. Superstar Lebron James tweeted: "We’re literally hunted EVERYDAY/EVERYTIME we step foot outside the comfort of our homes!". It's a LIE. Nobody is hunting Lebron, except paparazzi. Cops actually kill black men at a LOWER proportion than white men, based on the total number of interactions they have with each. The problem is: Black men are committing a hugely disproportional amount of the violent crime in this country. That's why cops interact with them more. Black culture in this country has a PROBLEM. And, it isn't 'white privilege' that is causing it. Look in the mirror, brothers.
What I don't understand is: How is it that the LIE is so widely believed? Hell, I could lose my job if I tweeted the "Truth". That, is a world gone mad. It is Orwell's 1984, come to fruition.
So much of this madness is nothing more than a part of the "Get Rid Of Trump" mantra of all main stream media outlets. It's sickening, and self-destructive. Don't even get me started on the virus nonsense.
I wish we could fast-forward to the end of this year, when the election is over. But, unfortunately, we have to go through several more months of nonsense and destruction.
I hope our country will survive. It is NOT guaranteed. Not when masses of people can be 100% convinced of a LIE.
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Post by EvilVodka on Jul 8, 2020 18:48:46 GMT
These are definitely crazy times. I love your point, Doc.. about how many incredible achievements humans have made, and yet we still can't get past tribalism. That's what racism is, at it's core: Tribalism. It's really not just color of skin. It's MY tribe against YOUR tribe. There are tons of examples of people with the same color skin hating and fighting against each other. It's been around as long as humans have been on this earth, and it's still alive and well. The events of the past 6 weeks, since the tragic death of George Floyd, have left me dumbfounded. There is SO MUCH ignorance on display, it's hard to stomach. BLM is an Marxist, radical organization that, from it's founding, has been based on a lie. Remember "Hands up, don't shoot?" It was a LIE. Michael Brown did NOT die that way. Yet, how many people still believe it? How many believe that Trayvon Martin was an innocent young black kid just walking home from the store, eating his Skittles when he was attacked and killed by the vigilante, George Zimmerman. That is a LIE. It didn't happen that way. Martin was the aggressor and he was well on his way to killing Zimmerman when he was shot. And yet, many of these protestors believe the first version. BLM, and all these white liberal protestors run around saying cops are disproportionately killing black people. Superstar Lebron James tweeted: "We’re literally hunted EVERYDAY/EVERYTIME we step foot outside the comfort of our homes!". It's a LIE. Nobody is hunting Lebron, except paparazzi. Cops actually kill black men at a LOWER proportion than white men, based on the total number of interactions they have with each. The problem is: Black men are committing a hugely disproportional amount of the violent crime in this country. That's why cops interact with them more. Black culture in this country has a PROBLEM. And, it isn't 'white privilege' that is causing it. Look in the mirror, brothers. What I don't understand is: How is it that the LIE is so widely believed? Hell, I could lose my job if I tweeted the "Truth". That, is a world gone mad. It is Orwell's 1984, come to fruition. So much of this madness is nothing more than a part of the "Get Rid Of Trump" mantra of all main stream media outlets. It's sickening, and self-destructive. Don't even get me started on the virus nonsense. I wish we could fast-forward to the end of this year, when the election is over. But, unfortunately, we have to go through several more months of nonsense and destruction. I hope our country will survive. It is NOT guaranteed. Not when masses of people can be 100% convinced of a LIE. A good question is, how many of these racist "events" are actually real? How many of them are staged Jussie Smollet and Bubba events? There are even bizarre aspects of the Floyd murder that don't make sense throw in other facts, such as where donations to BLM go? They go to Act Blue, and then democratic candidates throw in chaz/chop, taking down the statues (including Frederick Douglas) throw in the fact that BLM is in different countries....including England. Wth??? This is MANUFACTURED OUTRAGE we have a MANUFACTURED race war on the heels of a MANUFACTURED pandemic when are people going to quit letting the media dictate policy and find out who is manufacturing this crap?
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