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Post by Bevo on Jan 8, 2021 13:30:47 GMT
Correct me, please, on these simple observations, I pray I'm dead wrong. At this point in time the POTUS is ..... -Mentally ill, depressed, and dilusional -Emotionally disturbed and unhinged -Morally bankrupt - abandoned by the hour on a shrinking isolated island with only a few family and nut case associates as his council -Very dangerous for the next 13 days to the point of necessary and immediate removal from office Thanks, I'm open for all corrections and opinions. . You are very wrong. It's now only 12 days. Trump is still fine, and very much supported by >74,000,000 people. What you should be worried about is; A VERY large % of people in this country no longer have faith in the integrity of our elections.
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 8, 2021 17:42:34 GMT
Correct me, please, on these simple observations, I pray I'm dead wrong. At this point in time the POTUS is ..... -Mentally ill, depressed, and dilusional -Emotionally disturbed and unhinged -Morally bankrupt - abandoned by the hour on a shrinking isolated island with only a few family and nut case associates as his council -Very dangerous for the next 13 days to the point of necessary and immediate removal from office Thanks, I'm open for all corrections and opinions. . You are very wrong. It's now only 12 days. Trump is still fine, and very much supported by >74,000,000 people. What you should be worried about is; A VERY large % of people in this country no longer have faith in the integrity of our elections. Pelosi's delusion: She claims she called the CJCS and told him to prevent Trump from launching a nuclear strike before he leaves office. But you are correct, BEVO - it's the very large portion of people who have now lost faith in the integrity of elections. Rasmussen polled and 80% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats believed that there was fraud in this election, and in sufficient amount to throw the election to Biden.
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Post by bluehen on Jan 8, 2021 18:21:58 GMT
Sure - the low faith is all based on lies and mis-information which easily fools dumbth. 'Dumbth' is the problem and all this confirms what most of the industrialized nations of the planet have known....Americans are dumb. Dumb people are more prone to buy snake oil (peddled by a snake oil salesman and his radical right wing nut conspiracy enablers ) than intelligent people are. Heck, look at the trump inspired idiots that attacked the US Govt on Wednesday. They commit crimes and break the law and take selfies of themselves in the very act and post them on social media !!!! That is all you need to know about the intelligence level of those people.....an intelligence level that will land many of them in jail. Those type idiots can easily be conned into believing that the Earth is flat, that covid is a hoax, that the moon landing was filmed in a Hollywood studio etc etc. and that the election was stolen from their cult deity. All snake oil sales and non sales in history have been based on gullibility and intelligence levels. The sellers are evil and the buyers are dumb.
Although you're not a psychologist, Bevo, or a psychiatrist or a counselor of any kind I sure hope you're right that trump is 'all right' and not a dangerous mentally ill lunatic with 12 days left to reek havoc on the nation or the Earth.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 8, 2021 20:28:38 GMT
Sure - the low faith is all based on lies and mis-information which easily fools dumbth. 'Dumbth' is the problem and all this confirms what most of the industrialized nations of the planet have known....Americans are dumb. Dumb people are more prone to buy snake oil (peddled by a snake oil salesman and his radical right wing nut conspiracy enablers ) than intelligent people are. Heck, look at the trump inspired idiots that attacked the US Govt on Wednesday. They commit crimes and break the law and take selfies of themselves in the very act and post them on social media !!!! That is all you need to know about the intelligence level of those people.....an intelligence level that will land many of them in jail. Those type idiots can easily be conned into believing that the Earth is flat, that covid is a hoax, that the moon landing was filmed in a Hollywood studio etc etc. and that the election was stolen from their cult deity. All snake oil sales and non sales in history have been based on gullibility and intelligence levels. The sellers are evil and the buyers are dumb. Although you're not a psychologist, Bevo, or a psychiatrist or a counselor of any kind I sure hope you're right that trump is 'all right' and not a dangerous mentally ill lunatic with 12 days left to reek havoc on the nation or the Earth. Well, I guess I don't think you're all that smart, either Hen. Anyone who thinks this was a "perfect election" has not bothered to look at ANY of the evidence to the contrary. And yes, there is plenty. Some of it was being presented by House members on Wednesday. Their presentation was cut short by the "breach". Good timing, that. People have been predicting that Trump would 'reek havoc' for the past 4 years. The world, and our nation have managed to survive. Let me just add... Having visited more than 65 countries in the past 20 years, I can assure you that America has not cornered the market on "dumbth".
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Post by bluehen on Jan 8, 2021 21:02:50 GMT
Mr Cleese explains trump snake oil buying dumbth far better than I can :
This is known in the psychology world as the 'Dunning-Kruger' effect .....where some people are too stupid to even know what stupid means therefore can't remotely comprehend how stupid they are. This is the segment of our population that trump has successfully mind controlled into a cult.
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Post by bluehen on Jan 8, 2021 21:19:17 GMT
Bevo, this made up evidence has been rejected by about 50 assorted district courts, state courts and the Supreme Court Of The United States. The judges that preside at these courts are intelligent people ( again, intelligence vs dumbth ). Just because somebody claims 50,000 dead people voted here or there doesn't mean 50,000 dead people voted. There are words and there is tangible proof. The intelligent people prefer the proof. You should know that well being a chemical engineer (right ? ) The dumb people like those that post selfies of themselves committing crimes, can be persuaded by words alone.....basically trump's dumb cult sheep. So Bevo, I know how intelligent you have to be.....far more intelligent than myself I think. Don't buy the trump snake oil, friend.
In your travels to advanced , modern, educated industrialized nations what is the general view of American intelligence ?
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 8, 2021 21:20:25 GMT
Sure - the low faith is all based on lies and mis-information which easily fools dumbth. 'Dumbth' is the problem and all this confirms what most of the industrialized nations of the planet have known....Americans are dumb. Dumb people are more prone to buy snake oil (peddled by a snake oil salesman and his radical right wing nut conspiracy enablers ) than intelligent people are. Heck, look at the trump inspired idiots that attacked the US Govt on Wednesday. They commit crimes and break the law and take selfies of themselves in the very act and post them on social media !!!! That is all you need to know about the intelligence level of those people.....an intelligence level that will land many of them in jail. Those type idiots can easily be conned into believing that the Earth is flat, that covid is a hoax, that the moon landing was filmed in a Hollywood studio etc etc. and that the election was stolen from their cult deity. All snake oil sales and non sales in history have been based on gullibility and intelligence levels. The sellers are evil and the buyers are dumb. Although you're not a psychologist, Bevo, or a psychiatrist or a counselor of any kind I sure hope you're right that trump is 'all right' and not a dangerous mentally ill lunatic with 12 days left to reek havoc on the nation or the Earth. Well, I guess I don't think you're all that smart, either Hen. Anyone who thinks this was a "perfect election" has not bothered to look at ANY of the evidence to the contrary. And yes, there is plenty. Some of it was being presented by House members on Wednesday. Their presentation was cut short by the "breach". Good timing, that. People have been predicting that Trump would 'reek havoc' for the past 4 years. The world, and our nation have managed to survive. Let me just add... Having visited more than 65 countries in the past 20 years, I can assure you that America has not cornered the market on "dumbth". ABout that breach - there are videos now surfacing that show Capitol Police letting people in the building - literally opening the doors and letting them inside. No evidence of any concern on their faces. One of the guys charged during the Capitol siege just told the judge that he's a federal employee. Many are telling the judge, when questioned, thought they were allowed to be there because they were allowed in by police. This wasn't a siege, this was a setup.
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Post by bluehen on Jan 8, 2021 21:54:09 GMT
I sure agree, cpa, that there was some crazy law enforcement failures but I can see you're back on those radical right wing -nut sites buying more conspiracy crap.
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Post by Aufan on Jan 8, 2021 23:27:42 GMT
Correct me, please, on these simple observations, I pray I'm dead wrong. At this point in time the POTUS is ..... -Mentally ill, depressed, and dilusional -Emotionally disturbed and unhinged -Morally bankrupt - abandoned by the hour on a shrinking isolated island with only a few family and nut case associates as his council -Very dangerous for the next 13 days to the point of necessary and immediate removal from office Thanks, I'm open for all corrections and opinions. . You are very wrong. It's now only 12 days. Trump is still fine, and very much supported by >74,000,000 people. What you should be worried about is; A VERY large % of people in this country no longer have faith in the integrity of our elections. And why do you think a large portion of our population has lost faith? Because an idiot president can say whatever he wants and people are believing it. Not because there is any evidence. Every court case was lost or dismissed, there was no evidence. Even Trump anointed judges and Trump lawyers agreed on this. Meanwhile you have someone who you would presume to be a smart numbers guy in TigerCPA. Yet he posts reports where they claimed some election results had a 1% chance of happening, yet he posted it had a 0.000000000000001% chance of happening. And outright lie posted as ‘evidence’. It took two minutes to fact check this, but he is an otherwise smart person that is just believing the narrative without doing simple fact checking. Never mind that low probability of occurrence does not prove something did not happen. Our president repeating this nonsense is a huge cause of the distrust, not actual election fraud. Tiger also referenced the MIT PHD who had ‘evidence’ of wrong doing. Except it was simple algebra to produce a line with a negative slope, that was no evidence of wrong doing, just middle school algebra. You cannot decouple Trump from the faith lost in our elections. MOST of the faith lost is because of Trump. You have smart people like TigerCPA believing everything he sees on Twitter, even though some ‘evidence’ takes 2 minutes and a 6th grade math education to debunk. But as long as there is leadership that is spewing this nonsense, even smart people will be duped, as this thread has clear evidence.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 9, 2021 4:00:33 GMT
Bevo, this made up evidence has been rejected by about 50 assorted district courts, state courts and the Supreme Court Of The United States. The judges that preside at these courts are intelligent people ( again, intelligence vs dumbth ). Just because somebody claims 50,000 dead people voted here or there doesn't mean 50,000 dead people voted. There are words and there is tangible proof. The intelligent people prefer the proof. You should know that well being a chemical engineer (right ? ) The dumb people like those that post selfies of themselves committing crimes, can be persuaded by words alone.....basically trump's dumb cult sheep. So Bevo, I know how intelligent you have to be.....far more intelligent than myself I think. Don't buy the trump snake oil, friend.
In your travels to advanced , modern, educated industrialized nations what is the general view of American intelligence ?
Hen, no court, except one, actually agreed to HEAR evidence. They simply dismissed suits based on questionable technical issues. They DONT WANT to hear the evidence. The one court that did, in Wisconsin, accepted the evidence of illegal voter registration, but refused to do anything about it. In all of these disputed states, the elections were not carried out as prescribed by law, as set by the legislatures. Thousands of illegal votes were cast. And NO ONE seems to care, or be willing to do anything about it. The vote totals and results in this election were unlike any election in our history. In several of these Democrat precincts, voter turnout was 90-110%. That is self-evident fraud. If there is to be ANY hope of a return to civility in this country, there MUST be a real investigation and some significant reforms in voting procedures. Dems didn’t believe the 2016 election and they have refused to accept Trump’s legitimacy for 4 years. Now, Republicans have no faith either. And no amount of gas-lighting from the “no evidence” main stream media will change any minds. They have ZERO credibility. As a country, we’re in a world of hurt. And Biden is doing NOTHING to make things better. Rather, he’s making it worse.
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Post by bluehen on Jan 9, 2021 5:05:08 GMT
For the first time ever I went to the Newsmax TV channel tonight and watched for about an hour. It was enlightening in that I now see how some people are instructed to think. I felt like all the content was directed at HS drop outs. All those district and state courts have zero credibility. The SCOTUS has zero credibility. The State governors, the election officials including many repubs have zero credibility. All the Republicans jumping off the trump clown car have no credibility. VP Pence has no credibility. AG Barr has no credibility. McConnell has no credibility. Lindsey Graham and that Leuffler bimbo now have no credibility. All those former aids and cabinet people that refused to suck on trump's tiny penis to the end now have no credibility. I could type for 10 hours straight about the no credibility list. The capitol invaders ( and now murderers ) have credibility...the proud boys, the KKK, the Neo Nazis and other assorted like intellectual groups, that worship trump ...the true patriots of the US probably have real credibility. There are definitely different definitions of credibility among us so I agree with you that we are in a world of hurt.If only all Americans could have the great credibility of Donald trump we would be fine.
In the meantime, I need to get out some hunting firearms and find some ammo and set up my home defense because trump jr (true credibility there) says he and the intellectual MAGA army are coming after anybody that doesn't worship at the alter of his father (like me) and will be in my backyard and "have fun doing it". I don't know what "it" is but I have to assume it's violence...maybe even homicide. I'm wore out on this , Bevo. Have the last word.
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Post by Aufan on Jan 9, 2021 5:10:29 GMT
Bevo, this made up evidence has been rejected by about 50 assorted district courts, state courts and the Supreme Court Of The United States. The judges that preside at these courts are intelligent people ( again, intelligence vs dumbth ). Just because somebody claims 50,000 dead people voted here or there doesn't mean 50,000 dead people voted. There are words and there is tangible proof. The intelligent people prefer the proof. You should know that well being a chemical engineer (right ? ) The dumb people like those that post selfies of themselves committing crimes, can be persuaded by words alone.....basically trump's dumb cult sheep. So Bevo, I know how intelligent you have to be.....far more intelligent than myself I think. Don't buy the trump snake oil, friend.
In your travels to advanced , modern, educated industrialized nations what is the general view of American intelligence ?
Hen, no court, except one, actually agreed to HEAR evidence. They simply dismissed suits based on questionable technical issues. They DONT WANT to hear the evidence. The one court that did, in Wisconsin, accepted the evidence of illegal voter registration, but refused to do anything about it. In all of these disputed states, the elections were not carried out as prescribed by law, as set by the legislatures. Thousands of illegal votes were cast. And NO ONE seems to care, or be willing to do anything about it. The vote totals and results in this election were unlike any election in our history. In several of these Democrat precincts, voter turnout was 90-110%. That is self-evident fraud. If there is to be ANY hope of a return to civility in this country, there MUST be a real investigation and some significant reforms in voting procedures. Dems didn’t believe the 2016 election and they have refused to accept Trump’s legitimacy for 4 years. Now, Republicans have no faith either. And no amount of gas-lighting from the “no evidence” main stream media will change any minds. They have ZERO credibility. As a country, we’re in a world of hurt. And Biden is doing NOTHING to make things better. Rather, he’s making it worse. They dismissed cases because there was no evidence. Even Trump appointee judges and trump lawyers said as much. Cafe to link this evidence? Tigercpa used to post evidence, then I showed him how wrong he was so he claimed he was being sarcastic. There is tons of evidence until you use half a brain to scrutinize it.
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Post by bluehen on Jan 9, 2021 5:34:46 GMT
Mr Cleese explains trumpism dumbth far better than I can :
This is known in the psychology world as the 'Dunning-Kruger' effect .....where some people are too stupid to even know what stupid means therefore can't remotely comprehend how stupid they are. This is the segment of our population that trump has successfully mind controlled into a cult.
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Post by Bevo on Jan 9, 2021 17:32:53 GMT
In your travels to advanced , modern, educated industrialized nations what is the general view of American intelligence ?
It varies, but most people in other countries think Americans are generally well informed and intelligent. Our higher education system remains highly respected around the world. Here, as in EVERY country, there is a wide range of education. But, Americans have greater access to information than practically ANY place on earth. Of course, that is changing now... as conservative commentators, en masse, are now being banned from Twitter and Facebook. They are trying to 'CANCEL' the thinking of 50% of this country. That doesn't bother you? Even a little bit?
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Post by Bevo on Jan 9, 2021 17:43:45 GMT
Bevo. Have the last word. There is a TON of pure CRAP circulating on the internet. There's been a spike of it since the election. It's one of the reasons I went quiet for a while. It's been overwhelming, and difficult to tell what's true and what's bull. I've been busy knocking down a lot of the crap on conservative sights. I'm convinced this is a propaganda blitz orchestrated by someone, for a reason. But, I can't say for sure who, or why? It's making a lot of people crazy. But, the left isn't helping. There have been irregularities. Just repeating 'Nothing to see here', and decrying, "False claims", is not going to make this go away. Having courts consistently decline to hear cases based on "lack of standing" doesn't help. Election rules were obliterated in this election. And, NO ONE seems to care? One of the biggest problems now is, our media totally lost ALL credibility over the past 4 years. So now, at a time when we could use good journalism, it doesn't exist. We're not out of trouble yet. In the end, I fear 2021 will make people long for 2020. The last year when things were 'normal'. But, that's MY last word on politics. My resolution, here, is to stick to football... or movies... or NON-POLITICAL topics.
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