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Post by tigercpa on Mar 12, 2016 12:56:37 GMT
I see the moveon.org idiots had a protest in Chicago last night...
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Post by GatorGrad on Mar 12, 2016 13:55:57 GMT
This is the kind of nonsense that folks are sick of and why so many people are telling the establishment to take a hike. Really, now we are telling people to NOT vote for the candidate that they wanted to vote for just to stop another guy? Romney suggested this as well. This solidifies my decision to vote for Cruz in Florida over Rubio. Cruz is the candidate that I most align with when reviewing his stance on everything. He has no chance of winning Florida but it is my right to vote for the candidate that checks most of my boxes. I don't want to be told to vote for Rubio just because I am in Florida and we need to stop Trump. And if I were a Rubio supported in Ohio, and the Rubio camp told me to vote for Kasich, that would lose me completely. Are you running for POTUS or are you just trying to stop Trump? If your goal is just to stop Trump then get out of the race. Just let everyone vote for who they prefer and let the chips fall where they may - isn't that the point of an election? This attempt to manipulate is garbage. No wonder the establishment folks like Jeb, Kasich, and Rubio have not gotten any traction while Trump and Cruz are 1 & 2. People are sick of the silliness. The old establishment folks just don't get it.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 12, 2016 16:09:05 GMT
I have no doubt that the Chicago protests were professionally organized and coordinated, most likely spearheaded by Move On. The signs were professionally printed and the protesters were wearing identical custom shirts.
However, "mister tough guy" Donald Trump has repeatedly incited hatred and violence with his anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim rhetoric, and his comments about physically attacking protesters.
If Trump appears to be on his way to the Republican nomination, I can foresee a strong potential for major street riots during the Republican Party convention, perhaps similar to those at the 1968 Democrat Party convention.
Donald Trump is the most polarizing political candidate of my lifetime. A Trump presidency could tear our country apart. Trump has crossed the line between anger and hate, big time, and that is not a good thing.
Ronald Reagan was a strong leader, and so was Adolph Hitler. Reagan was a uniter, and Hitler was a divider.
Donald Trump is a divider.
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Post by Bevo on Mar 12, 2016 16:50:22 GMT
Donald Trump is a reaction to political machine manipulation. Trump is NOT "anti-immigrant"... He is "anti ILLEGAL immigrant"... And so are a lot of other people in the country. You show your own bias when you characterize him that way.
I see Trump not as a Hitler, but as an Andew Jackson. The Washington fat-cats HATED Jackson... And for good reason. He hated them too. But, the people loved Jackspn, cause he talked and acted like they did. Trump is pushing back against the PC bullshit that infects our culture... And, yes, the PC culture is fighting back.
The police were missing in action last night. There should have been 100+ arrest. Everyone has a right to protest, peacefully, No one has the right to disrupt a public event,
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 12, 2016 17:25:08 GMT
I have no doubt that the Chicago protests were professionally organized and coordinated, most likely spearheaded by Move On. The signs were professionally printed and the protesters were wearing identical custom shirts. However, "mister tough guy" Donald Trump has repeatedly incited hatred and violence with his anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim rhetoric, and his comments about physically attacking protesters. If Trump appears to be on his way to the Republican nomination, I can foresee a strong potential for major street riots during the Republican Party convention, perhaps similar to those at the 1968 Democrat Party convention. Donald Trump is the most polarizing political candidate of my lifetime. A Trump presidency could tear our country apart. Trump has crossed the line between anger and hate, big time, and that is not a good thing. Ronald Reagan was a strong leader, and so was Adolph Hitler. Reagan was a uniter, and Hitler was a divider. Donald Trump is a divider. Trump is a uniter, not a divider. He's bringing a bigger tent than the Republicans have had in quite some time. The elites of both parties truly fear him, because they can see their gravy train coming to an end.
Blaming the riots at his rally on Trump is like blaming the bank branch manager for a robbery becuase he "had all that money in the vault". It won't hurt Trumps totals, and will most likely help them, as he can now use this to be the "free speech President".
Even Cruz said the protestors brought the violence and they are solely responsible for it.
“The responsibility for that lies with protestors who took violence in to their own hands”. Trump was smart to cancel. He's leading the weekend news cycle heading into Tuesday and doesn't need videos of people getting hurt on the alphabets. He doesn't need videos of Secret Service agents having to take action against protestors in hs rally or maybe even rushing the stage.
You are correct too, this was purely a moveon.org thing, organized on social media (the scourge of the 21st century).
I do believe there will be blood before this is over, Obama has set the tone of the landscape.
FWIW, two weeks ago, the liberal media said it was "very bad" to be angry or have anger at political rally...
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 12, 2016 17:27:01 GMT
Donald Trump is a reaction to political machine manipulation. Trump is NOT "anti-immigrant"... He is "anti ILLEGAL immigrant"... And so are a lot of other people in the country. You show your own bias when you characterize him that way. I see Trump not as a Hitler, but as an Andew Jackson. The Washington fat-cats HATED Jackson... And for good reason. He hated them too. But, the people loved Jackspn, cause he talked and acted like they did. Trump is pushing back against the PC bullshit that infects our culture... And, yes, the PC culture is fighting back. The police were missing in action last night. There should have been 100+ arrest. Everyone has a right to protest, peacefully, No one has the right to disrupt a public event, Agreed. Americans are fed up with supporting the ne'er do wells and their lifestyles as well as the elites. They know with a Trump presidency it's game over.
When did people think they would start rioting, after the election?
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Post by Hero on Mar 12, 2016 19:03:43 GMT
This should throw several dozen voters into the Kasich Camp. I was going to say Rubio could call all 11 of them personally.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 12, 2016 19:37:12 GMT
Trump is a uniter? Lol. Every poll shows exactly the opposite - that Trump consistently has the highest percentage of voters, even considering Republicans only, who would never vote for him.
Trump has repeatedly threatened protesters with violence, from threats of personally punching protesters to encouraging supporters to attack protesters. His own entourage has heeded his call. His campaign manager assaulted a reporter who, ironically, was a Trump supporter. After Trump called her a liar, she just filed charges against his campaign manager. She is not the only reporter to have been assaulted while covering a Trump rally.
Donald Trump is looking more and more like a thug, and a bigot. It was bad enough when he was a simple schoolyard bully.
I am seriously concerned about the potential for major violence at the Republican convention, a la 1968, if Trump appears likely to become the Republican nominee.
And, in the unlikely event Trump is elected, I can foresee a high potential for violence in the streets all over the country, unlike anything America has seen since the riots in Watts and in other black ghettos, which paralyzed major cities across the country and destroyed thousands of local businesses.
Comparing Trump to Hitler is a stretch, but not a big stretch.
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 12, 2016 20:29:10 GMT
Trump is a uniter? Lol. Every poll shows exactly the opposite - that Trump consistently has the highest percentage of voters, even considering Republicans only, who would never vote for him. Trump has repeatedly threatened protesters with violence, from threats of personally punching protesters to encouraging supporters to attack protesters. His own entourage has heeded his call. His campaign manager assaulted a reporter who, ironically, was a Trump supporter. After Trump called her a liar, she just filed charges against his campaign manager. She is not the only reporter to have been assaulted while covering a Trump rally. Donald Trump is looking more and more like a thug, and a bigot. It was bad enough when he was a simple schoolyard bully. I am seriously concerned about the potential for major violence at the Republican convention, a la 1968, if Trump appears likely to become the Republican nominee. And, in the unlikely event Trump is elected, I can foresee a high potential for violence in the streets all over the country, unlike anything America has seen since the riots in Watts and in other black ghettos, which paralyzed major cities across the country and destroyed thousands of local businesses. Comparing Trump to Hitler is a stretch, but not a big stretch. This country needs a good fight. The die has already been cast.
Comparing Trump to Hitler is a lazy, facile analogy.
His campaign manager didn't assault a reporter, if you watch the video. It was most likely the SS who pushed her out of the way. Breitbart has the video and they have basically confirmed this.
www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/11/trump-presser-ben-terris-misidentified/
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Post by Bevo on Mar 12, 2016 20:51:50 GMT
Comparing Trump to Hitler is a stretch, but not a big stretch. Dude... Hitler gassed more than 6 Million jews.
Anytime you compare somebody to him, YOU LOSE.
It is known.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 12, 2016 21:19:14 GMT
Lol. The very link you provided disputes your claim! "Update 3:55 p.m. ET: A sequence of screenshots, corresponding to seconds 0:09-0:10 in the C-SPAN video, illustrates Lewandowski reaching towards Fields." However, there was an eyewitness, Washington Post reporter Ben Terris, with a clear view: "As security parted the masses to give him passage out of the chandelier-lit ballroom, Michelle Fields, a young reporter for Trump-friendly Breitbart News, pressed forward to ask the Republican front-runner a question. I watched as a man with short-cropped hair and a suit grabbed her arm and yanked her out of the way. He was Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s 41-year-old campaign manager. Fields stumbled. Finger-shaped bruises formed on her arm." www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/inside-trumps-inner-circle-his-staffers-are-willing-to-fight-for-him-literally/2016/03/10/4b2b18e8-e660-11e5-a6f3-21ccdbc5f74e_story.htmlTrump's first instinct was to accuse Michelle Fields, a Trump supporter, of being a liar. Small wonder she has filed a lawsuit.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 12, 2016 22:41:29 GMT
Bevo: I said that comparing Trump to Hitler was a stretch. However, his divisive rhetoric is reminiscent of Hirler's divisive rhetoric in his early days.
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Post by Hero on Mar 13, 2016 0:33:25 GMT
Comparing Trump to Hitler is a stretch, but not a big stretch.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 13, 2016 2:31:12 GMT
In his early days, Hitler railed against the Jews. Trump is railing against the Muslims.
I believe that Islam is an evil religion, but I also believe that the vast majority of Muslims are good and decent people. Trump has not drawn that distinction. Hitler cast all Jews similarly, just as Trump is casting all Muslims similarly.
Do I think that Trump has the potential to become another Hitler? No. But, not many foresaw Hitler becoming a madman.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 13, 2016 2:35:40 GMT
Wake up call: "Donald Trump is asking law enforcement officers to arrest protesters at his rally in Kansas City, Missouri. He argues that fear of an "arrest mark" on people's records may put an end to the near-constant disruptions at his rallies. He says he's "going to start pressing charges against all these people."This, a day after he called off a planned Chicago event because it attracted so many protesters. Trump says arrests would mar their records. That's "going to ruin the rest of their lives," he says. And then, he tells supporters, "we're not going to have any more protesters, folks."" news.yahoo.com/latest-political-world-closely-watching-trumps-events-135802715--election.html
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