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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 15, 2016 11:38:51 GMT
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 15, 2016 13:02:18 GMT
This is not rocket science.
Connect the dots.
The media and establishment are anti-Trump. They will try anything to slow his progress, he represents change, and the establishment doesn't like change. The entrenched pols like their gravy train and will attack anyone who tries to end it.
Remember, nothing in politics happens by coincidence.
Leading up to this, we have trump is a racist...trumps people are "thugs" (I notice you've assumed that parlance as well)...they are violent...they are anti-women...they are anti-immigrant....ad infinitum.
Terris is working on a Trump hit piece for the Washington Compost. Fields, a known prevaricator, is a woman of Hispanic origin, IIRC. She does not normally cover Trump's campaign, she covers Cruz. Field's boyfriend is also rabidly anti-Trummp and writes at another anti-Trump site. Fields goes up and asks a question about....affirmative action, of all things. Well, now, we've covered all of the anti-Trump bases here, haven't we? All of the elements are present - earth, wind , fire.
Fields has a book coming out in June, Lord knows why.
This coup would be icing on the cake, except for the fact that it blows up in their faces. Which is why the WaPo photographer initially lied about being there, deleted his tweet, but then got called on it by some astute folks who actually pay attention and do not fall for media BS. They noticed that despite his "not being there", he had a photo copyrighted and credited to his name. Hmmm.
www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/11/washington-post-caught-in-huge-media-cover-up/jabin-botsford-journalism-fraud-29-am/
Then he changed his story when called on his BS:
www.dangerandplay.com/2016/03/11/washington-post-caught-in-huge-media-cover-up/jabin-botsford-journalistic-fraud-57-am/
Here he is camera at the ready, IF something had happened, but as he admitted, no assaults took place:
a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3344/9937/original.jpg
But nothing happened of any significance. Meh, maybe next time guys.
Now, Terris and Fields, disappointed, continue their ruse on "audio" (audio?) which is not definitive of anything, except their bullshit.
Fields, grief stricken and wandering in a sea of confusion, goes to every talk / opinion show and spouts her nonsense, and everyone falls for it.
Lewandowski confess to the assault, except he didn't. The email between Boyle and Lewandowski shows that supposed confession never occurred.
Terris wrote his piece in the WaPo anyway, noting that he saw bruises begin form on her arm. Hmmm. How could you, she was wearing long sleeves.
This went nicely with all of the protests in Chicago, the old guy hitting a protestor. And then Cruz, Kasich, Rubio, Megyn snake in the grass Kelly condemning him for the atmosphere of "violence"... Then looney-tunes Beck and the RINOs at National Review going on and on about "Brownshirts" and "thugs"....
The theme, Trump and his supporters are "violent".
Just one man's opinion...
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Post by Bevo on Mar 15, 2016 13:52:27 GMT
If you mean that my agenda is to save America from Donald Trump, I would plead guilty if I had sufficient interest and clout to do something about it. However, my assistance is not necessary, because Michelle Fields' criminal complaint against Lewandowski is prima facie a slam dunk winner. The key evidence is the audio recording. It was indisputably spontaneous and contemporaneous. That gives it very powerful standing. With the eyewitness account and the various videos, it is also indisputable that Lewandowski grabbed and pulled Fields, which is fully consistent with the audio recording. Not one person has come up with a plausible rationale of how and why this audio recording could have been pre-planned. Cry conspiracy all you want, but unless and until you have evidence you have nothing. The bruises on Fields' arm are the nails in Lewandowski's coffin. That, by legal definition, is bodily harm and a firm basis for a Class A battery misdemeanor. That puts Lewandowski at risk of being incarcerated. While that might not be highly likely, I would advise Lewandowski to be on his best behavior in court. A simple apology from Lewandowski would have ended this before it had a chance to fester. But, Lewandowski is a thug, which is not surprising considering his man who hired him.
Herd, I am decidedly NOT a Trump fan. There are am million things you can and should criticize him about. This, is NOT one of them.
1) The audio tape proves NOTHING. She doesn't even say "Ow", or have her speech interrupted. 2) There is ZERO video evidence that actually shows Lewandowsky touching Fields... none. 3) There is considerable video evidence that show Fields was not seriously forced to move anywhere. At worst, she was tugged because she was impeding Trump's exit. That's something that happens at every political rally, ever.... if they have more than 50 people.
You truly sound delusional on this.
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Post by Bevo on Mar 15, 2016 15:05:02 GMT
More lies from Megyn. None of these tapes actually show contact between Corey and Michelle. One can infer such... but, it's NOT visible.
Please... just STOP with the Megyn Kelly posts... I may have to block you!
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 15, 2016 16:29:46 GMT
"1) The audio tape proves NOTHING. She doesn't even say "Ow", or have her speech interrupted. 2) There is ZERO video evidence that actually shows Lewandowsky touching Fields... none. 3) There is considerable video evidence that show Fields was not seriously forced to move anywhere. At worst, she was tugged because she was impeding Trump's exit. That's something that happens at every political rally, ever.... if they have more than 50 people."
Fields was physically moved to the right, from the view of the camera, as Lewandowski passed by her.
However, the central issue is not whether she was physically moved, even though she clearly was, but rather how tightly Lewandowski had gripped her forearm. The video could not possibly show that. However, the audio recording together with the photograph of her arm conclusively prove that a battery was committed.
I expect that Trump will pay for the best lawyers to defend Lewandowski. A good attorney should quickly realize the risk of a court case moving forward. That is why I predict a settlement that will cost Trump big bucks, but would sweep the incident under the rug with a non-disclosure agreement. Nobody can talk, and it goes away.
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Post by Bevo on Mar 15, 2016 17:17:16 GMT
"1) The audio tape proves NOTHING. She doesn't even say "Ow", or have her speech interrupted. 2) There is ZERO video evidence that actually shows Lewandowsky touching Fields... none. 3) There is considerable video evidence that show Fields was not seriously forced to move anywhere. At worst, she was tugged because she was impeding Trump's exit. That's something that happens at every political rally, ever.... if they have more than 50 people." Fields was physically moved to the right, from the view of the camera, as Lewandowski passed by her. However, the central issue is not whether she was physically moved, even though she clearly was, but rather how tightly Lewandowski had gripped her forearm. The video could not possibly show that. However, the audio recording together with the photograph of her arm conclusively prove that a battery was committed. I expect that Trump will pay for the best lawyers to defend Lewandowski. A good attorney should quickly realize the risk of a court case moving forward. That is why I predict a settlement that will cost Trump big bucks, but would sweep the incident under the rug with a non-disclosure agreement. Nobody can talk, and it goes away. Fields moves as Lewandowski passes by... That's proof? The SS agent is not visible in this shot. However, we know from other angles that he's over there, somewhere. I'll grant you that it LOOKS LIKELY that Corey grabbed her. But, it is NOT proof. The audio tape proves absolutely nothing. There is no sound of any attack, only two people talking about some perceived slight. Nor are the bruises proof of anything. She could have gotten those bruises at ANY time, from anyone. Frankly, I have a hard time believing she was bruised from being grabbed though the sleeve of the thick coat she was wearing. No one moved her forcefully enough to have caused her any harm. Trump will never settle something like this. She has no prayer of ever winning any judgement on this.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 15, 2016 18:31:46 GMT
You are correct that Fields moving to the right as Lewandowski passes by is not proof. However, it doesn't have to be proof -- it just has to be consistent with the audio recording, the eyewitness account and the photo of her bruises. It more than passes that test.
Either the conversation between Fields and Terris was contrived or it was spontaneous. In order for it to have been contrived, it would have had to have been pre-planned. That would be a conspiracy, which is a felony. A conspiracy requires a motive, such as extortion or perhaps Fields and Terris were seeking to undermine Trump's campaign. A conspiracy would also require communications between Fields and Terris before the incident. We know that it would have to have been very recent communications because Fields was assigned to cover the event at the last minute.
What evidence do you have of such a conspiracy?
Battery is hardly a "perceived slight". It requires bodily harm, which was evidenced by the bruises. I am sorry that you are having a hard time believing that she could have been bruised through her coat sleeve (I would have to see the video again to see if she was wearing a heavy coat at the time). However, your previous attempts at remote medical diagnostics have been demonstrably lame.
Case in point: you claim that Fields wasn't moved forcefully enough to have caused her any harm. That is ludicrous. The bruises could have been the result of Lewandowski's tight grip on Fields' arm even if she was not moved an inch.
I really hope that you are correct that Trump will not settle this case (it would actually be Lewandowski entering into a settlement). A contested court case during a presidential campaign would be delicious.
You would be right that Fields would have no chance of winning -- if a wild conspiracy theory can be substantiated. I ask once again, where is the evidence of such a conspiracy?
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 15, 2016 18:34:28 GMT
tigercpa: "This is not rocket science. Connect the dots."
Lol. You have been creating dots that don't exist -- figments of your very fertile imagination!
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 15, 2016 18:45:40 GMT
"1) The audio tape proves NOTHING. She doesn't even say "Ow", or have her speech interrupted. 2) There is ZERO video evidence that actually shows Lewandowsky touching Fields... none. 3) There is considerable video evidence that show Fields was not seriously forced to move anywhere. At worst, she was tugged because she was impeding Trump's exit. That's something that happens at every political rally, ever.... if they have more than 50 people." Fields was physically moved to the right, from the view of the camera, as Lewandowski passed by her. However, the central issue is not whether she was physically moved, even though she clearly was, but rather how tightly Lewandowski had gripped her forearm. The video could not possibly show that. However, the audio recording together with the photograph of her arm conclusively prove that a battery was committed. I expect that Trump will pay for the best lawyers to defend Lewandowski. A good attorney should quickly realize the risk of a court case moving forward. That is why I predict a settlement that will cost Trump big bucks, but would sweep the incident under the rug with a non-disclosure agreement. Nobody can talk, and it goes away. Fields moves as Lewandowski passes by... That's proof? The SS agent is not visible in this shot. However, we know from other angles that he's over there, somewhere. I'll grant you that it LOOKS LIKELY that Corey grabbed her. But, it is NOT proof. The audio tape proves absolutely nothing. There is no sound of any attack, only two people talking about some perceived slight. Nor are the bruises proof of anything. She could have gotten those bruises at ANY time, from anyone. Frankly, I have a hard time believing she was bruised from being grabbed though the sleeve of the thick coat she was wearing. No one moved her forcefully enough to have caused her any harm. Trump will never settle something like this. She has no prayer of ever winning any judgement on this. Trump may give her $100, which is probably closer to her usual nightly fee, given that she is an attention whore.
This will not go anywhere.
I have yet to see a video that erases all doubt as to exactly what happened, and exactly who (Lewandowski? or maybe a security employee?) was involved.
I do wonder why this same reporter always seems to be the victim of such alleged treatment.
1) No one else, among the hundreds of people gathered around (almost all with phone camera or video) noticed this deadly assault.
2) The latest video to surface is the clearest yet. In the worst case, someone brushed the “reporter” with his hand as he moved past her. In a crowd of people I’m guessing he had no idea he had just committed a deadly assault.
3) As I said, this kind of stuff is a staple of the left.
This incident is not about Trump, it's about a lying media.
While I think “someone” had contact with Ms. Fields, it is less than clear that the “someone” is Corey Lewandowski. That certainly has not been shown to be likely to have happened, much less proven beyond a reasonable doubt, the standard relevant to Ms. Field’s criminal complaint. It almost certainly never will be proven to either of these standards.
The fact that a roomful of reporters, who are already atuned to watch for this kind of stuff, saw nothing tells you that this is an attempt to turn a fart into a hurricane. There is still absolutely no objective evidence substantiating it.
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 15, 2016 19:04:25 GMT
tigercpa: "This is not rocket science. Connect the dots." Lol. You have been creating dots that don't exist -- figments of your very fertile imagination! I don't create the dots, the dots are there for all of us. We connect them using our intuition gained from past experience.
The leftist media lies...that's what they do. The preferred narrative must be maintained at any cost.
Hands up, Don't shoot - Lie Skittles and iced tea - Lie It was a spontaneous reaction to a video - Lie I can't breathe - Lie Rough ride - Lie Violent assault against a reporter - Lie Zimmerman had no injuries - Lie Someone spit on Rep. Cleaver and called him n***** - Lie College rape culture - Lie
All of these lies get halfway around the world before the truth can put its shoes on...
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Post by Bevo on Mar 15, 2016 19:08:02 GMT
. I ask once again, where is the evidence of such a conspiracy? There is no need to prove any conspiracy. The onus is on Fields to prove she was assaulted by Lewandowsky. Until now, she can't even prove that he touched her, much less assaulted her.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 15, 2016 20:47:31 GMT
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 15, 2016 20:50:46 GMT
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Mar 15, 2016 21:04:19 GMT
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Post by tigercpa on Mar 15, 2016 21:39:31 GMT
If someone claimed that John Kasich’s or Marco Rubio’s campaign manager had done this, I don’t think the story would have had the same legs.
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