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Post by sc69er on Sept 28, 2015 18:37:20 GMT
I have followed Mark Stoops since he was D coordinator at Az working for his brother Mike. The Az team fell apart when Mark left to be D coordinator at Florida. Now after an uneventfull first year where the Wildcats only won a few games and showed good progress in 2014 where they broke about even it looks like the Wildcats could win as many as 10 games this year. Just goes to show the impact of a really good QB and solid coach can have on a perenial loser like Kentucky. If they have the sucess I think they can have this year what are the odds Stoops will be there in 2016? or 2017?
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Post by EvilVodka on Sept 28, 2015 19:30:40 GMT
One of those brainiac Big 10 schools need to get him....the Big 10 has gotten an F overall for coaches, that's why they're so bad...
The good coaches they do get are at the top immediately...Meyer, and possibly Harbaugh this year.
Why is the SEC so successful? just look at the influx of coaches....
By the way, how long is Charlie Strong at Texas? I bet he's out at the end of the year...who would Texas target? wouldn't surprise me if they looked at Saban again
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Post by sc69er on Sept 28, 2015 20:22:26 GMT
One of those brainiac Big 10 schools need to get him....the Big 10 has gotten an F overall for coaches, that's why they're so bad... The good coaches they do get are at the top immediately...Meyer, and possibly Harbaugh this year. Why is the SEC so successful? just look at the influx of coaches.... By the way, how long is Charlie Strong at Texas? I bet he's out at the end of the year...who would Texas target? wouldn't surprise me if they looked at Saban again College football is a coachs medium. Mark my words Harbaugh will have an immediate at UM in much the same way as Meyer at tOSU. I don't know if Stoops is the real deal yet but he looks promising.
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Post by bluehen on Sept 28, 2015 21:59:31 GMT
One of those brainiac Big 10 schools need to get him....the Big 10 has gotten an F overall for coaches, that's why they're so bad... The good coaches they do get are at the top immediately...Meyer, and possibly Harbaugh this year. Why is the SEC so successful? just look at the influx of coaches.... By the way, how long is Charlie Strong at Texas? I bet he's out at the end of the year...who would Texas target? wouldn't surprise me if they looked at Saban again So why can't the SEC produce its own coaches ? .....and why can't the SEC produce top coaches for the highest level of the sport ?
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Post by Bevo on Sept 29, 2015 0:16:17 GMT
Hold up there a little, bud. UK just beat Missouri... Missouri has been luckier than a three-dicked dog since joining the SEC. Beating them doesn't mean the Cats are going to win 10 games. Towns is still a VERY inconsistent QB. He has good size (6'5"), and a strong arm. When he looks good (like, the first half against Missouri) he looks VERY good. But, he still has a LOT of moments when he looks horrible. He still has a tendency to overthrow his receivers. That turns out BAD a lot.
Kentucky has improved, dramatically, under Stoops. Recruitment has improved... Play has improved. But, we're not "SEC Elite" just yet, far from it. See the home game agains Florida for proof. I don't care what you guys say... The SEC is a TOUGH conference. Try playing Kentucky's conference schedule, and being a perennial winner.
That Said... I think Stoops stays here for awhile. With our basketball riches, the school can afford to pay a top salary. Stoops likes being close to his home (Ohio). I think, there's only one job he would leave for (OSU). And that job is filled....for a while.
He seems happy here, and the school loves him. He's earned a big payday, and he'll get it.
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Post by aufan59 on Sept 29, 2015 2:32:41 GMT
One of those brainiac Big 10 schools need to get him....the Big 10 has gotten an F overall for coaches, that's why they're so bad... The good coaches they do get are at the top immediately...Meyer, and possibly Harbaugh this year. Why is the SEC so successful? just look at the influx of coaches.... By the way, how long is Charlie Strong at Texas? I bet he's out at the end of the year...who would Texas target? wouldn't surprise me if they looked at Saban again So why can't the SEC produce its own coaches ? .....and why can't the SEC produce top coaches for the highest level of the sport ? Those who can't play, coach. Maybe the SEC is producing players, not coaches. No SEC team would have recruited Saban in his youth...
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Post by bluehen on Sept 29, 2015 2:51:57 GMT
So why can't the SEC produce its own coaches ? .....and why can't the SEC produce top coaches for the highest level of the sport ? Those who can't play, coach. Maybe the SEC is producing players, not coaches. No SEC team would have recruited Saban in his youth... Aufan, are you sure it's just not a factor of the SEC being a relative barren wasteland of coaching talent for the sport's highest level ? Zero of the 22 Pro HOF coaches from SEC Zero of the 49 Super Bowl winning HCs from the SEC Zero of the current 32 NFL HCs from the SEC There is a cerebral side to this sport also, Aufan, don't you think ?
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Post by bucs90 on Sept 29, 2015 14:28:00 GMT
One of those brainiac Big 10 schools need to get him....the Big 10 has gotten an F overall for coaches, that's why they're so bad... The good coaches they do get are at the top immediately...Meyer, and possibly Harbaugh this year. Why is the SEC so successful? just look at the influx of coaches.... By the way, how long is Charlie Strong at Texas? I bet he's out at the end of the year...who would Texas target? wouldn't surprise me if they looked at Saban again So why can't the SEC produce its own coaches ? .....and why can't the SEC produce top coaches for the highest level of the sport ? Because coaches in the SEC don't usually win because of how smart they are. They win because of the players they can get down South. It's why the NFL is over 50% Southern born players. The SEC teams who win...are the ones who have the best recruiters. That's all it is really. Whoever can attract the most elite players. That's a skill that is useless in the NFL. SEC football is a recruiting game far more than an Xs and Os game. Hell...Les Miles has a playbook that's as simple as most junior highs. But he has the most impressive looking teams to ever walk off a bus!
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Post by doc on Sept 29, 2015 14:46:23 GMT
So why can't the SEC produce its own coaches ? .....and why can't the SEC produce top coaches for the highest level of the sport ? It's why the NFL is over 50% Southern born players. You may want to recount that - these stats are from 2013 but I can't believe it's shifted that much. It also depends on where you put Texas...I don't think they consider themselves south...for the record, I included WV, Va, NC, SC, Fla, Ky, Tenn, Ga, Miss, Ala, La, Arkansas. www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-09-18/nfl-players-state-by-state-breakdown-california-florida-louisiana-texas-south-ca
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Post by EvilVodka on Sept 29, 2015 15:29:35 GMT
One of those brainiac Big 10 schools need to get him....the Big 10 has gotten an F overall for coaches, that's why they're so bad... The good coaches they do get are at the top immediately...Meyer, and possibly Harbaugh this year. Why is the SEC so successful? just look at the influx of coaches.... By the way, how long is Charlie Strong at Texas? I bet he's out at the end of the year...who would Texas target? wouldn't surprise me if they looked at Saban again So why can't the SEC produce its own coaches ? .....and why can't the SEC produce top coaches for the highest level of the sport ? Who cares? How many coaches or assistant coaches have championship rings in the SEC? Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Marc Richt, Les Miles, Gus Malzahn, Muschamp, Mark Stoops The SEC is where it's at right now for coaching.
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Post by sc69er on Sept 29, 2015 15:59:36 GMT
So why can't the SEC produce its own coaches ? .....and why can't the SEC produce top coaches for the highest level of the sport ? Those who can't play, coach. Maybe the SEC is producing players, not coaches. No SEC team would have recruited Saban in his youth... Couple of things. 1) Kentucky has two cupcakes and an OOC against Louiville(at home) on the schedule, four winnable SEC games , and one game(UGa) in which they will be more than a TD underdog. 10 wins could happen given a decent performance in a bowl game. Its been decades since a Kentucky team won 10 dfootball games. Pat Towels might be the best QB in the SEC! I know that is faint praise but true none the less. BTW Patricks GrandDad is Jim Bunning of baseball and US Senate fame.
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Post by bluehen on Sept 29, 2015 18:20:59 GMT
So why can't the SEC produce its own coaches ? .....and why can't the SEC produce top coaches for the highest level of the sport ? Because coaches in the SEC don't usually win because of how smart they are. They win because of the players they can get down South. It's why the NFL is over 50% Southern born players. The SEC teams who win...are the ones who have the best recruiters. That's all it is really. Whoever can attract the most elite players. That's a skill that is useless in the NFL. SEC football is a recruiting game far more than an Xs and Os game. Hell...Les Miles has a playbook that's as simple as most junior highs. But he has the most impressive looking teams to ever walk off a bus! Hmmmm...interesting. The NFL people appear to agree with you ..." coaches in the SEC don't win because of how smart they are ".....however, B90, my question is about the SEC institutions, not the coaches because SEC HCs don't come from the SEC schools anymore. My question is why these huge, rich SEC FB programs can't produce elite coaches...i mean people that played and graduated from SEC schools. At the highest level of coaching just about the entire world of CF out produces the SEC.
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Post by Bevo on Sept 29, 2015 22:06:14 GMT
Those who can't play, coach. Maybe the SEC is producing players, not coaches. No SEC team would have recruited Saban in his youth... Couple of things. 1) Kentucky has two cupcakes and an OOC against Louiville(at home) on the schedule, four winnable SEC games , and one game(UGa) in which they will be more than a TD underdog. 10 wins could happen given a decent performance in a bowl game. Its been decades since a Kentucky team won 10 dfootball games. Pat Towels might be the best QB in the SEC! I know that is faint praise but true none the less. BTW Patricks GrandDad is Jim Bunning of baseball and US Senate fame. If he's the best QB in the SEC? Then, this conference's QB's SUCK. Patrick is still young, and improving. He might well be the best prospect. But, my gosh... He is still a work IN PROGRESS.
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Post by sc69er on Sept 30, 2015 14:12:24 GMT
Couple of things. 1) Kentucky has two cupcakes and an OOC against Louiville(at home) on the schedule, four winnable SEC games , and one game(UGa) in which they will be more than a TD underdog. 10 wins could happen given a decent performance in a bowl game. Its been decades since a Kentucky team won 10 dfootball games. Pat Towels might be the best QB in the SEC! I know that is faint praise but true none the less. BTW Patricks GrandDad is Jim Bunning of baseball and US Senate fame. If he's the best QB in the SEC? Then, this conference's QB's SUCK. Patrick is still young, and improving. He might well be the best prospect. But, my gosh... He is still a work IN PROGRESS. You got a better candidate? The SEC QBs suck.
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Post by bluehen on Sept 30, 2015 15:27:32 GMT
Towels is probably a classy and cerebral kid if he takes to his grand dad's standards. I think Kentucky has the right coaching staff in place and has 23 Ohio boys on the team. I expect the Cats to be competitive in the SEC for a while.
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