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Post by tigercpa on Jun 29, 2018 10:05:47 GMT
Winningest teams of each decade:
1910s: Harvard/Washington and Jefferson
1920s: USC
1930s: TCU
1940s: Notre Dame
1950s: Oklahoma
1960s: Alabama
1970s: Alabama
1980s: Nebraska
1990s: Florida State
2000s: Boise State
2010s: Alabama
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Post by bluehen on Jun 29, 2018 11:37:59 GMT
Not sure what your source is , cpa, but the NCAA football records book says Oklahoma had the best winning % of the 1970s (.877) vs Bama's .863. Bama lost 16 games in the 70s, OU lost 13.
Your list must be total wins ?? in which Bama edged Ok by one game ( 103-102 )
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Post by Bevo on Jun 29, 2018 12:26:01 GMT
Your list must be total wins ?? in which Bama edged Ok by one game ( 103-102 ) Wouldn't that qualify Bama as the "Winningest" team.
They WON more games than anybody else.
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Post by bluehen on Jun 29, 2018 12:39:03 GMT
Your list must be total wins ?? in which Bama edged Ok by one game ( 103-102 ) Wouldn't that qualify Bama as the "Winningest" team.
They WON more games than anybody else.
Yep, by volume. The NCAA record book lists OU as the 'winningest' team of the 70s...but what do they know ? Definitely two ways to define 'winningest' in sports. For example :
The 'winningest' head coach in NCAA history is John Gagliardi with 489 wins (.775 success rate)
The 'winningest' head coach in NCAA history is Larry Kehres with a career .929 success rate
personally, I'm more of a quality over quantity guy when it comes to sports records.
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Post by tigercpa on Jun 29, 2018 13:03:24 GMT
National Championships (Last 50 Years):
9 - Alabama
5 - Miami
5 - Nebraska
5 - USC
4 - OU
3 - Florida
3 - FSU
3 - Notre Dame
3 - Ohio State
2 - Clemson
2 - LSU
2 - PSU
2 - Texas
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Post by tigercpa on Jun 29, 2018 18:26:16 GMT
Wouldn't that qualify Bama as the "Winningest" team.
They WON more games than anybody else.
Yep, by volume. The NCAA record book lists OU as the 'winningest' team of the 70s...but what do they know ? Definitely two ways to define 'winningest' in sports. For example :
The 'winningest' head coach in NCAA history is John Gagliardi with 489 wins (.775 success rate)
The 'winningest' head coach in NCAA history is Larry Kehres with a career .929 success rate
personally, I'm more of a quality over quantity guy when it comes to sports records.
How does win% equate to quality? team a has a win% of .913 team b has a win% of .431 how do you tell quality? |
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Post by tigercpa on Jun 29, 2018 19:03:24 GMT
Most Wins (Last 50 Years):
474 - Nebraska
463 - Ohio State
462 - OU
448 - PSU
442 - Alabama
442 - Michigan
429 - FSU
424 - UGA
419 - USC
418 - Texas
411 - BYU
411 - Florida
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Post by bluehen on Jun 29, 2018 19:57:15 GMT
Yep, by volume. The NCAA record book lists OU as the 'winningest' team of the 70s...but what do they know ? Definitely two ways to define 'winningest' in sports. For example :
The 'winningest' head coach in NCAA history is John Gagliardi with 489 wins (.775 success rate)
The 'winningest' head coach in NCAA history is Larry Kehres with a career .929 success rate
personally, I'm more of a quality over quantity guy when it comes to sports records.
How does win% equate to quality? team a has a win% of .913 team b has a win% of .431 how do you tell quality? Surely you can't be serious with that question.
Team B loses 56.9 % of its games Team A loses 8.7% of its games and you can't tell which team is of more winning quality. You're smelling too much gunpowder.
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Post by bluehen on Jun 29, 2018 19:58:47 GMT
National Championships (Last 50 Years): 9 - Alabama 5 - Miami 5 - Nebraska 5 - USC 4 - OU 3 - Florida 3 - FSU 3 - Notre Dame 3 - Ohio State 2 - Clemson 2 - LSU 2 - PSU 2 - Texas What kind of national championships ? That 50 year period would be from 1968 right ? In those 50 years there have been approx 94 assorted, voted, speculated, guessed at mythical national champs. In many of those seasons in the mythical division there were 3 or more voted champions and in one season there were 6 mythical national champs according to the various selectors of the day. |
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Post by tigercpa on Jun 29, 2018 21:10:40 GMT
How does win% equate to quality? team a has a win% of .913 team b has a win% of .431 how do you tell quality? Surely you can't be serious with that question.
Team B loses 56.9 % of its games Team A loses 8.7% of its games and you can't tell which team is of more winning quality. You're smelling too much gunpowder.
Suppose Team A achieved its .913 win% by beating up on teams that all went 3-7, while Team B played the hardest schedule in the nation, including 4 of the top 5 teams?
Which winning % would be most reflective of quality?
That's what I think of when I see quality. The raw win% tells you nothing without more context.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 1, 2018 0:50:36 GMT
Well sure SOS would be a factor, cpa but this thread is about a decade's worth of games..talking about 250 plus games between the two teams being considered. SOS would tend to even out and OU may have even played a tougher one. Also, keep in mind, cpa, that the SEC wasn't as powerful a conference in the 70s. As a matter of fact, Bama and Bear Bryant had a LOSING record in the 70s vs OU's league..the Big Eight. They are close but I'll go with the NCAA record book that gives the 'winningest' team of the 70s to Oklahoma. Also, Bama posted a 5-4-1 PSEG record in the 70s ( they could only win half their post season games) Oklahoma posted a 6-1-1 PSEG record in the 70s. That's an .813 success rate vs a .550 success rate. SEC myth # 44d is that Bear was CF's dominant coach of the 70s. Nope, Barry Switzer was.
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Post by Bevo on Jul 1, 2018 12:16:13 GMT
myth # 44d is that Bear was CF's dominant coach of the 70s. Nope, Barry Switzer was. Hmnnn. Coach A won 103 games in the 70's. Coach B won 73 games in the 70's. Now, which was the most dominant? Hen, you're becoming a presenter of "Fake Facts". :-) funny, even if you look at Win % in Barry's first 10 years (73-82) vs Bear's record in the 70's, Bear wins.... 85.8% vs 83.1% |
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 1, 2018 12:35:53 GMT
Well sure SOS would be a factor, cpa but this thread is about a decade's worth of games..talking about 250 plus games between the two teams being considered. SOS would tend to even out and OU may have even played a tougher one. Also, keep in mind, cpa, that the SEC wasn't as powerful a conference in the 70s. As a matter of fact, Bama and Bear Bryant had a LOSING record in the 70s vs OU's league..the Big Eight. They are close but I'll go with the NCAA record book that gives the 'winningest' team of the 70s to Oklahoma. Also, Bama posted a 5-4-1 PSEG record in the 70s ( they could only win half their post season games) Oklahoma posted a 6-1-1 PSEG record in the 70s. That's an .813 success rate vs a .550 success rate. SEC myth # 44d is that Bear was CF's dominant coach of the 70s. Nope, Barry Switzer was. That's all fine. None of those qualifiers were my argument. I wasn't favoring any particular argument, pro or con.
I simply reposted an interesting stat from a tweet that detailed who won the most games by decade.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 1, 2018 13:10:02 GMT
myth # 44d is that Bear was CF's dominant coach of the 70s. Nope, Barry Switzer was. Hmnnn. Coach A won 103 games in the 70's. Coach B won 73 games in the 70's. Now, which was the most dominant? Hen, you're becoming a presenter of "Fake Facts". :-) funny, even if you look at Win % in Barry's first 10 years (73-82) vs Bear's record in the 70's, Bear wins.... 85.8% vs 83.1% We're not talking 80s Bevo. Let's stick to the original thread.Bryant lost 14% of the games he coached in the 70s (.863) Switzer lost 10% of the games he coached in the 70s (.902) Both were dominant but Switzer proved more difficult to beat. Both were, unfortunately, on the win-at-all-costs sleazy side. And again, Bear couldn't even post a 70s winning record vs Switzer's league. |
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Post by bluehen on Jul 1, 2018 13:22:49 GMT
Also interesting ( this stuff is fun)...beyond the 70s..
If you look at career success rate, Barry Switzer was clearly a more difficult HC to beat than Bear Bryant.
Barry Switzer lost 16.3% of all the games he ever coached. ( 5th best all time among 'majors')
Bear Bryant lost 22% of all the games he ever coached. ( 18th best all time among 'majors')
Now I'm no Switzer fan at all but he was definitely a tougher out than Bryant...just was never the hyped up folk hero that the Bear was.
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